V8 Supercar Race Driver 2 Review

Brendan

V8 Supercars 2 Review by Brendan

PS2 Review: Also known as TOCA Race Driver 2 for those non Australian folks. Does it have what it takes to hang with the big boys?

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ObsoletE · Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2004 8:01 pm�� Post subject:

i didn't like V8 Driver 1 as much as the previous TOCA titles... i didn't see the point of the story... honestly who cared?

i don't think i'll grab this title either... IMO codemasters has dropped the ball wrt car games...

and i thought the Mitsubishi 3000GT (aka GTO) was 4WD...

EDIT: ah...FWD and the VR-4 was 4WD...
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Brendan · Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2004 8:51 pm�� Post subject:

If you aren't a racing game fan, than you shouldn't bother. GT3 and PGR2 totally wipe the floor with it in most aspects, aside from the usual speed/damage complaints with GT3.

ObsoletE · Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2004 12:40 pm�� Post subject:

no, i'm a car game fan, i just haven't liked the last few efforts from Codemasters...

plus V8s don't really do it for me... i prefer Japanese cars...

r32 skyline still holds the mt. panorama lap record by nearly 1 minute

...and it's been what? 12 years?
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Brendan · Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2004 1:49 pm�� Post subject:

...I think you mean race record.

I doubt even the mighty R32 GTR could do a 1:06 around Bathurst.

That short of thing is impossible to guage - the biggest factor being safety cars. Current supercars are better than that Godzilla in pretty much every way (as they damn well should be).

ObsoletE · Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2004 4:05 pm�� Post subject:

yeah... that too... oops

safety is an issue, but Aussie Touring cars suck... "ooh, that cars wiping the floor with everything else... ban it"

dumb

if your car isn't competitive against international cars, here's an idea: build a better car!

not just Skylines either, RX-7's used to race, Volvo's were once on-board... but it was the GT-R everyone complained about in 1991 that saw it banned (although initially they added bits to slow it down) and to me that's not sporting...

Australia sucks...

(sorry, i know this is kinda off topic, but it annoys me so much...)
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Brendan · Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2004 6:17 pm�� Post subject:

It's totally understandable. How can an inline 6 turbo sports coupe and a multipurpose family car based V8 be in the same racing class? Same with the Sierras - totally different class. Seperating the catagories was definitely a good thing, as now the series is undoubtably the best touring car series in the world, and arguably the best all round series.

ObsoletE · Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2004 7:19 pm�� Post subject:

i guess i just prefer more variety in the cars...

but seeing as how the HSV GTS and the FPV XR8 both market themselves as sportscars (regardless of their base model) they should allow other sportscars entrance... and it's still a simple enough premise, if it ain't up to scratch, build a better car... it's what Ford did with the BA over the AU...
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Brendan · Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2004 3:06 pm�� Post subject:

No, they shouldn't. They are still a 4 door family sedan at heart.

By your logic, throwing some F1 and champ cars into the series is fine - Holden and Ford should just build better cars, despite how impossible it may be with the base car.

AU - BA isn't a fair comparison, either - they are still the same model of car. It's not so much that the BA is a drastically better car, it's just Stone Bros are the only Ford team who know what they're doing.

ObsoletE · Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2004 3:56 pm�� Post subject:

i don't see how that's my logic... sportscars or not, the other cars are not production models... how many F1/champ cars do you see driving down the streets...

i can understand not allowing Sierra's in, but skylines, volvos, camrys and the like are all similar weighted cars, and IMO should be allowed entrance...

regardless i think this is just going to go back and forth... i don't like the Aussie Supercar circuit... i'd prefer other cars be allowed in, and you like it and don't...
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Brendan · Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2004 5:56 pm�� Post subject:

Skylines aren't even in production anymore (last R34s were 1999 I think). Toyota aren't making V8s at the mo (or is there one in the Landcruiser?), and European? Meh. Keep in mind only 100 R31 GTRs were Australian delivered, and none of the R33/R34.

A Magna nearly made it into the championship. I'm not against other models, but they should at least be a four door sedan and have a V8 in em.

And don't think I hate non V8s either, because that ain't the truth.

ObsoletE · Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 1:00 am�� Post subject:

well, yeah i know Skylines aren't in production now, but they haven't been allowed in the championship for a long time... it was just and example... i was just using examples of vehicles that have been in the Aussie touring cars at one time or another with current models... R32's weren't Aussie produced or released either (AFAIK)...

i think that provided the vehicles weights are comparable, anything should go... i just think the current 2 production car championship is too homogenous, monotonous and stale...

even a few Monaros and Ford Coupes (i've forgotten the name of the concept that nearly made it to production a few years ago) added to the mix would better than pure Commodore V. Falcon...
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Brendan · Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 11:38 am�� Post subject:

That Ford Arrow thing? Wasn't made by Ford, some HSV type thing.

"R32's weren't Aussie produced or released either (AFAIK)..." - 100 GTRs were Australian delivered.

I know what you're saying, though - two cars is a bit questionable. However, go back and compare late 80s group A racing (what the current championship evolved from), and tell me it's not miles better.

You can still get the all in one catagories, though - Nations Cup for example, along with others I can't for the life of me remember.

ObsoletE · Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 12:07 pm�� Post subject:

i don't think it was called an arrow... i'm not sure though...
it was made by FPV was called 300+ or something... because it had over 300HP or something... it was a concept car revealed in 2001 after the coup Holden caused with the VT Coupe (as it was then called)... maybe it wasn't FPV but i'm 90% sure it was... i'll have to go through all the shit i've collected from car-shows over the years...

i wasn't aware that 100 R32 GTRs were aussie delivered... it was probably the bare minimum required by regulations to be allowed into the championship...

i know there are other championships, but they don't get the coverage (or funding) of the v8 supercars... at least not in WA (on freeTV... i don't have PayTV so i wouldn't know)...
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Brendan · Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 8:38 pm�� Post subject:

Nobody bought the GTRs, actually - it was really weird.

Do you get trackside? Tonnes of the lower catagories are on that. That shows on every second week usually, at the same timeslot as the V8s on chan 10.

ObsoletE · Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 9:13 pm�� Post subject:

might do... i'm not sure...

we get RPM, but that shits me to tears so i stopped watching...
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