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There is a jump that the horse has trouble with, but it can make. Thing is, it doesn't make it under the gate anyway and you have to walk the rest of the way.

Oh and horse on roof does equal random.
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Thanks guys icon_biggrin.gif Well I loved this game, I hope the third one is just as fun as the second, but even more improved icon_biggrin.gif

My theory for the next one is that we have a couple of different main characters in different times as Desmond's ancestors. In the credits they said he should "playing around with the animus to see if you can find anything else of importance in your memories" (I dont rememebr the exact quote icon_smile.gif) which seems to suggest to me that they will flick between different memories in different times to try and find information or other Pieces of Eden or something. I think if that happens then as long as they have some good storylines happening and make the characters interesting it would work really well and give an excuse to show us a few other time periods before the end of the series (assuming they stop at 3!!). And then I think the finale will be playing as Desmond when they finally arrive at their destination and he can go after that evil old guy (I forgot his name icon_razz.gif)

But maybe I'm totally wrong. icon_lol.gif
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Yeah, that's what I'm thinking as well, although I also think that Desmond will be able to harness his inate ability to "jump back in time" and that will also play a major part in the next title.

I'm also hoping that the Animus kills him eventually. That he ends up stopping the Templars (at least for now) but at the cost of his life. Probably won't happen but then again, Ubisoft are known for their bittersweet endings of late.
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I'm hoping the third is not set in the animus. He just trained to be an assassins now use those abilities in the future/present. Of course with the side affects there will be some time swapping stuff
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I'm hoping the third is not set in the animus. He just trained to be an assassins now use those abilities in the future/present.


That sounds like the worst thing they could do. Free running in a city where 50 storey buildings and guns are commonplace would completely kill the gameplay. Anyway, one of the big drawcards of the series for me is you can immerse yourself in a well crafted, historical setting. Taking away that would take out all the flavour from it.
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Just finished it. Fantastic game in everyway.

Loved it from start to end and did EVERYTHING, which is the direct opposite to the 1st for me. I'm actually going back to get the 20 odd feathers I need to collect.

Awesome settings, story and massive improvements from the first in every way well ... expect combat, that's still pretty sloppy.

The 3rd is on the up there with games I really want now. Can't wait to see how they finish it all off.
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Just finished it. Like LeonJ I am actually motivated to collect EVERYTHING, which is pretty incredible considering that's so not like me at all.

Such an improvement from the first game, wow, just wow. I absolutely cannot wait for the third!
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To be honest I would love it if the 3rd game was set further back in time. Ancient Rome or Greece would be outstanding. But I'm not sure how that would work story wise.
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^ I'd be amazed if we didn't get to visit the period shown in 'The Truth'
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The third game has to be set in the present. Otherwise it will be very annoying and out of place.

Having said that, I don't know how the engine will be able to do that. Sky scrappers, guns and stuff kind of make the hole assassin thing redundant and silly.
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Modern day AC will suck imo. The whole appeal of the series, for me, is the fact you are immersed in the historical setting. That's the strength of the series; not the futuristic 'end of world' type bulltwang.
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Modern day AC will suck imo. The whole appeal of the series, for me, is the fact you are immersed in the historical setting. That's the strength of the series; not the futuristic 'end of world' type bulltwang.


I agree but if you finished AC2, I don't see how they can NOT have the game in the future.
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Im playing a bit of this today and I must say I think its a worthy sequel. It fixed alot of the issues i had with the first game although I liked Altiar better as he seemed more like he followed the code of the Assassin, Im not too far in to AC2 but Ezio seems like a whinger to me. Maybe he grows as a person with the responsibility of being an Assassin but at this stage id prefer to let him get beaten up.
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He need to cut the ego. wrote:
Modern day AC will suck imo. The whole appeal of the series, for me, is the fact you are immersed in the historical setting. That's the strength of the series; not the futuristic 'end of world' type bulltwang.


I agree but if you finished AC2, I don't see how they can NOT have the game in the future.


Eventually...

Didn't the woman at the end mention something about them placing temples all over the world that reveal the secrets of how to stop the planet from going belly up? Presumably Desmond still has to find them. I'm guessing if the series is going to end with the third, which would make the most since with the 2012 storyline, they'll maybe have a few different locations mixed with modern day settings. But who knows...
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^ I'd be happy with that.
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I actually like that idea, what I'm particularly interested in is Assassining around dudes with guns, hopefully to create a bit more of a stealthy gameplay (which, to be honest, wasn't that prevalent in AC2). I'm thinking something almost akin to Batman: Arkham Asylum, you've already got the eagle vision for visibility, why not extend that to a more stealthlike style. Plus you could have points in highly populated areas where crowd blending would be far more important as guns could rip you to shreds.
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I hoping for a game that makes use of the bleeding effect heavily. Where Desmond loses control of it which leads to many different places in time and a few short bursts modern day scenes where he uses assassin skills. The main game would be about the temples and sticking with knives and blades. Guns have never been a big part of AC so they would be kept out most of it until the end where he bleeds into a WW2 guy, learns how to shoot well and then Desmond is basically a ultimate warrior guy who knows all of his ancestors skills. The end wouldn't be a game as he would be incredibly skilled and the player acts as a badass to defeat the Templars and save the world.
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While on the topic for ideas as to where AC3 is set, how about WW2, assinating generals, etc? icon_razz.gif I duno, might be fun.

Finished the game 10 minutes ago, i enjoyed it but i didnt like the ending, being in party chat with subtitles didnt help either.

Just need to pick up the feathers + cape achievement then ill be sitting on 1k.
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I hoping for a game that makes use of the bleeding effect heavily. Where Desmond loses control of it which leads to many different places in time and a few short bursts modern day scenes where he uses assassin skills. The main game would be about the temples and sticking with knives and blades. Guns have never been a big part of AC so they would be kept out most of it until the end where he bleeds into a WW2 guy, learns how to shoot well and then Desmond is basically a ultimate warrior guy who knows all of his ancestors skills. The end wouldn't be a game as he would be incredibly skilled and the player acts as a badass to defeat the Templars and save the world.


I don't think thats quite how the bleeding works. I'm under the impression that its caused by prolongued use of the animus, and the 'Ancestor' personality that comes out will be the one thats been heavily used.
Wouldn't be suprised if we saw Ezio take over (and hit on Lucy) at one point in the next game.

I think the game would get too confusing if you were to be jumping between more then 2 points in history. If they choose to end the current storyline with the next game, i'd suspect we'll see a story split 60/40 between Ancestor and Desmond.
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While on the topic for ideas as to where AC3 is set, how about WW2, assinating generals, etc? icon_razz.gif I duno, might be fun.


I really hope not. icon_eek.gif I'm so sick of WW2 games, there seems to be so many, and I don't like any of them. Anyway Assassin's Creed to me has always been a very bright series of games (lots of beautiful and bright locations) and I can't see them managing that in a wartorn place, it would seem too dark and dismal.

Also I don't know how they would add guns into the mix and I'm not sure it would work well.

I don't mind what time period they go into next as long as the locations have a great colour palette again... icon_lol.gif I so hate dull looking games, it's one of the things that seem small to other people but can make me completely lose interest in a game. And I just can't see them making any typical WW2 locations look stunning and colourful in the way they have for the other two games.
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i was going to start a thread on this, but seems it's already kicked off in this thread.

after seeing Sherlock Holmes the other day, i think 19th century London would be fantastic. it could incorporate Jack the Ripper, Sweeney Todd (fictional character, yes, but alleged to have historical basis, so they just need to have Lucy or Shaun say "OMG! he's the real life Sweeney Todd!" with respect to a character, and we're laughing) and maybe Dr. Joseph Bell (the "real life" Sherlock Holmes) as a possible new Leonardo DaVinci role.
the time period also encompasses the American Civil War, which could serve as the catalyst for Abstergo/the Templars, and the Assassins moving to the US.

i guess the American Revolutionary War in the late 18th Century would also be a good catalyst for moving from Europe, to America.

then again, there's a lot of time to cover between 15th century Italy and near-future wherever-we-are with Desmond, and quite honestly i can't think of an archetypical setting i wouldn't mind seeing realised.
i mean 16th Century France/Paris would be pretty ideal from the story POV, as it was a rather large battle for the Parisian throne - and when Henry IV did take it, he survived over 20 assassination attempts before his luck finally ran out in the early 1600's - so it's not without some grounding.
then there's also the period of the French Revolution in the late 18th and into the 19th century.

I do think it'll have to have more set in Desmond's present though - i mean personally i wouldn't mind if they just dragged it out even further games and time periods, but since they've always said it's a trilogy, i'd think it'll be around 50/50 spread out between eras.

i also don't think guns need play a huge part in the game/combat. i mean, the suppressor wasn't invented until the early 20th century, so in a stealth game, an explosive should still only be a last resort, and the modern jacketed bullet wasn't invented until the late 19th century, so loading a pistol/gun was still a case of priming the barrel with black powder and dropping the projectile in afterwards, obviously not an efficient weapon still - but the timing of the invention of the jacketed bullet would fit nicely with a few other of my thoughts on what period it should be set - i mean, we know that the Assassins are decimated and go to ground, so the autoloading bullet's invention by the templars could be a nice cause for this.

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I do realise that the Americas were discovered in 1492, and that there's a new DS Assassin's Creed game with the subtitle of "Discovery", so my whole thoughts on the relocation from Europe to America may have already been dealt with in this game.
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I'm keen to see where AC3 takes the story too.

For some reason I think their going to take the main location out of Europe. The US comes into mind, especially with the future era set there.

Perhaps even it could seamlessly go between past & modern era's. Say your walking down the street in 19th Century Chicago & then it suddenly goes back to the 21st Century and your walking down the same street in it's modern existance.
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The thing is, unless the 'vaults' that was talked about at the end of the game are all in one place I don't see how they can get away with having just one setting. I thought she said they were scattered about everywhere hence the reason for Desmond to go back into the animus to find them.

The Wiki page says the Middle Ages and feudal Japan are some possible settings.

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i also don't think guns need play a huge part in the game/combat.


I don't want them to, but ACII had a gun remember...albeit a bit dodgy, so I wouldn't be surprised if we see firearms in some form, but I very much doubt they'll be the main way to dispose of people.
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Just as an aside when I talked about guns I meant the enemies having them, not Desmond. I don't think Desmond needs one, hence why I thought they should adopt a far more stealthy approach for the modern day settings.
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