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| LeonJ wrote: | | ^ Hardly surprising. I'd LIKE one, but a) only if it was 1/2 the price and b) if I could transfer all my UMD games onto it. |
I found this interesting viewpoint on a blog by a dude called Bill Harris that I like to read every now and then at dubiousquality.blogspot.com
Console (Handheld) Post Of The Week: The Curious Case Of The PSPgo
In summary version, here's how the PSPgo stacks up versus its predecessor, the PSP-3000:
--more expensive
--smaller screen
--less comfortable controls
--no backwards compatibility
--all purchased media must be downloaded
--games are more expensive
No, that's not the PSP-3000 I'm talking about compared to the Go. It's the Go compared to the PSP-3000. In almost every aspect, it's worse.
Seriously, WTF?
The PSPgo is $250. The PSP-3000 is $170. It's a hardware refresh, and it's almost 50% more.
Yes, the screen looks "sharper." Here's the thing, though: the screen looks sharper because it's smaller (3.8" versus 4.3"). The resolution is the same. Hey, shrink it to 1" and it will be razor sharp!
The smaller form factor, though, means that controls are smaller, and for the analog stick, that's an issue.
Play your old games? Forget it. The Go is 100% a download device. Screw you.
More expensive games? Of course they are. Maybe they're listed at the same price as UMD games, but you can't resell anything. Essentially you're paying 15-20% more, at least, when you factor in the loss of resale value.
More bad news: no pricing competition. No longer will dozens of retailers be competing on price, using PSP games as loss leaders with special pricing. Well, they still will be doing that for the UMD versions of games, which the Go doesn't support.
What I'm trying to figure out is who actually wants one of these damn things. And what the hell is Sony's point here?
Well, I've figured it out, I think. The Go is actually designed to be as poor a value as possible because it's a Trojan horse to sell PSP-3000s.
Crazy? Like a fox, bitches. Look at this quote from Claire Backhouse, product manager for the PSP in the UK, in a recent interview:
If you bring out a new product, people aspire to that but they might not buy it, they might buy the PSP 3000 instead. Especially if they're part of a family - dad might buy the PSPgo but the kids might get PSP 3000s. I think that works quite well for us.
We've entered a new era, apparently--the era where people "aspire" to buy gaming hardware. Sony has set a ridiculous price point for their NEW hardware precisely because they want to sell the OLD hardware.
Okay, I'm kidding about the Trojan horse angle. I think.
Here's more, though, and I think these quotes quite clearly indicate what Sony is really trying to do here:
It's for different audiences that have different needs. The PSPgo is more for the older, 16 - 34 year olds, more like iPhone users who watch films and want high quality downloadable games on the go, and it's more portable as well, so that suits their lifestyle.
[Wait? A portable is MORE portable than another portable?]
There'll be those who are currently playing mini games on their iPods, and one thing that PSPgo offers them is an amazing gaming console that's just as portable as what they're carrying around at the moment.
And I think PSPgo is even more so because you do want it in consumer's minds that it can do all those things as well and that makes it even better than an iPhone, I think.
I think the iPhone has opened up that sort of market, almost like social gaming on the go.
Gee, I think a certain company has a terrible case of iPhone envy.
Backhouse was working in comparisons to the iPhone at every imaginable point in the interview, and I'm sure it wasn't an accident.
That's what's going on here. Sony doesn't give a shit about the DS. They lost that war, and badly. Now they covet the iPhone market, and they clearly think the Go is an iPhone killer. Claire seems mystified as to why anyone would prefer to carry around an iPhone instead of a Go.
[Sam Kinison enters.
I don't know--maybe because it's a F***ING PHONE?
Sam Kinison exits.]
Clearly, Sony must be planning to add phone functionality to the Go, because without it, there's no point in trying to compete with the iPhone, is there? But even with that, is anyone going to care?
Sony has one other objective here, and I think that's eliminating piracy. Yes, that's obvious, because the GO should essentially be a piracy-free platform, but I mention it because publishers and gaming device manufacturers have claimed for years that games could be much cheaper if only piracy could be eliminated.
Well, guess what? Sony introduced a piracy-free platform and is giving us the raised middle finger, because the game prices are identical.
Interestingly, this doesn't appear to be the case in Japan. Chris Kohler e-mailed me this last week:
PSPgo game prices seem to be universally lower than their physical counterparts: I saw a lot of games in Tokyo listed as being roughly 5,000 yen on a disc but about 4,000 yen on the store.
I think that has to happen in the rest of the world, and soon, because the pricing structure is so utterly ridiculous that it seems doomed to fail. Quickly.
So there you go. It's the least competitive product ever, but just to clarify, it's not competing with the DS (or the PSP-3000)--it's competing with the iPhone.
posted by Bill Harris @ 12:42 PM
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| Quote: | | it's not competing with the DS (or the PSP-3000)--it's competing with the iPhone. |
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The PSPgo, what a horrible idea. Or at least australia thinks so. From destructoid:
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Michael Ephraim, managing director of Sony Computer Entertainment Australia and New Zealand, has denied that the PSPgo sold under 1,000 units, although he did have to admit that his own figures aren't much better, claiming that "it's slightly over 1,000." Oh ... that's much better, then.
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Where's the best place to import it from? Play-Asia is out of stock. Also will I need a stepdown converter or can i just change out the power cable?
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I picked up my PSP Go when I was in Japan (picked up the white model). Hooray for Yodobashi points card, I had enough points that I could pick one up for free.
The charger is pretty much the same as the one you get with the PSP except it has a USB connector on one end and still the same two prong on the other end (short answer - yes just change out the power cable). The chargers are 110v/220v so you can use it in Australia without any problems.
I bought a spare USB cable for it so I have one at work and one at home. Also got another 16gb M2 Memory stick (so all up I have 32gb).
I'm actually enjoying it a lot but right now the only two games that are keeping me busy are Fifa 10 and Monster Hunter.
The PSP is actually region locked (not the unit itself), it's locked to the region your account, so if you create an Australian PSN account you're automatically taken the Australian PSN market place (the same goes if you have a Japanese account). Right now I'm running my Australian PSN account with my Japanese PSP Go.
I have only a few games for it so far :
- Ghostbusters
- Fifa 10
- Monster Hunter Freedom Unite
- Grand Theft Auto China Town
- Thexder Neo
- PSP Mini - Tetris
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I sold my PSP and will get a PSP Go in the future (16 gig of internal memory was the er GO for my mind). When it gets to sub $300 AU, I'll probably cave and get one.
Thanks for that info Ciel. I wonder how the import would work. Go to know.
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| Joystiq wrote: | Rumor: Logitech developing PSP Go UMD add-on
A CVG source (singular) claims that Logitech is developing a UMD drive add-on for the PSP Go. The source has neither price nor release information, merely stating that the "only problem is that it'll make the PSP a little bulky." Logitech's UK office told the outlet that it's unaware of such a device and that it "may be something the US office is working on." We've contacted both Sony and Logitech for more concrete information.
Beyond the fact that such an add-on would undermine what the Go represents (not quite the "only" problem, is it?), the likely price of such a device, in addition to the base cost of the PSP Go, would not compare well to the already lower cost of a regular PSP with UMD drive. Now, if the add-on could "install" your old games, that would be something ... |
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| Ciel wrote: | I picked up my PSP Go when I was in Japan (picked up the white model). Hooray for Yodobashi points card, I had enough points that I could pick one up for free.
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How much do they sell for in Japan? My friend's going over there soon.
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| Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 10:37 pm Post subject: |
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Bought a white one off Ebay for $280 delivered.
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| bigjimmystyle wrote: | | Bought a white one off Ebay for $280 delivered. |
Sweet!
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Yeh should have it early next week.
US PSN is the way to go right?
So far on my to buy list is:
Half minute hero
Hotshots golf 2
Castlevania X
Jeanne D'arc
Loco Roco 2
Prinny
Anything else I should buy? Also is that free game thing still available, the one where you plug in an old psp or something?
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ebay as well, cant wait 
and US store is DEFIANTLY the way to go
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| bigjimmystyle wrote: |
Anything else I should buy? Also is that free game thing still available, the one where you plug in an old psp or something? |
| Quote: | The company recently announced the "PSP Go Rewards" program for European territories, which offers three free games to anyone who registers the flip-screened handheld before March 31, 2010
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You should buy Parappa the Rapper. (It may be the only PSN game I know for PSP, but that's only because it's that awesome. Does that even make sense?).
SUPER EDIT:
Pick one of three PSP games to download for your GO for FREE!
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Thanks for that! I think I'll go for Motorstorm.
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The PSP Go is nice, but if Sony put in a touch screen and a second controller thumbstick, they would have had killer product instead of just a cool gadget.
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| bigjimmystyle wrote: | | Anything else I should buy? |
- Metal Gear Solid: Portable Ops
- Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII
- God of War: Chains of Olympus
- WipEout Pure
- WipEout Pulse
- Syphon Filter: Dark Mirror
- Syphon Filter: Logan's Shadow
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This is what I have got on my PSPgo:
-Gran Turismo
-LittleBigPlanet
-PixelJunk Monsters
-Tetris
-Street Fighter Alpha 3 Max
-Wipeout Pulse
-Rock Band Unplugged
-Yeti Sports
-BreakQuest
-Brainpipe
-Everybody's Golf
-Gottleb Pinball Classics
-God of War Chains of Olympus
-Super Stardust Portable
-Crash Bandicoot
-Crash Team Racing
-Beats
-flOw
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PortableOps doesnt seem to be available onPSN atm. Also is that free game thing only available for PAL PSn users? The option doesnt come up to download on the US PSN.
EDIT: sorry it is for euro only just read that then. No love for US PSN users?
Also is there any easier way to swap between accounts like on pS3?
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Managed to find Portable Ops, not sure why I couldnt find it before.
Anyway so far I'm liking the GO. Playing Half Minute Hero atm and loving it. Quick question about the slide though, are you able make the screen turn off when sliding it closed? The clock is a little pointless and just wastes battery.
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I'm mildly interested in purchasing a PSP Go (don't all laugh at once, please) for the new, upcoming version of The Eye of Judgment. I sure as hell know that I won't be buying it locally though at the price it's going for.
What I wanted to ask is if anyone could recommend the most cost-effective place to order one online (pref. White) and whether there are regioning issues I need to be made aware of. I imagine power shouldn't be a problem like most portable consoles as the transformers runs off of switch mode? I'd just need to get a plug adapter.
DVDBoxOffice is the best that I can find at about ~$300 AU prior to shipping. Can anybody help? 
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I'm waiting for a significant price drop as well. I will pick up one eventually. But I think $250 is the max I'd pay for one.
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I remember when I was in the US I saw brand new PSP Go's at Best Buy for $210US. It retails over there for $250 so you could normally find it cheaper at most places.
I really regret not picking it up for that price. It was bringing it home in my small bag that held me back.
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I still fail to comprehend why anyone would ever want a PSP Go. Can anyone explain it to me? 
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For me, I hate the PSP phat design. It feels stiff and horrible and I've never been a fan.
Plus I want 16 gig of internal memory so I can load it up with games. FFVII and FFVIII are two prime examples of two games I want to play on my PSP (2-3 gig there). When I had my PSP phat I had a 1 gig mem card. I couldn't justify buying a bigger mem card for something I never used.
I didn't really buy many PSP games, so the digital aspect is more appealing to me anyway.
But I'm not going to buy one @ $450 though. It needs to be $200 cheaper for me to even consider it though.
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Well as you can probably tell, I've had my PSPGo for a few months. It's definitely a device made for convenience than anything else.
Games are easier to access, I've put in a 16gb M2 memory stick in my PSPGo so I have a total of 32gb. No more searching around for UMDs wondering where I put what where.
Downloading games from the PSN store are quick and simple and the range seems to be adequate.
It is smaller and lighter which helps with the portability aspect and I also like the slide form factor.
Is it worth getting over the current PSP3000 well if you factor in price then no, it's a big ask to switch to the PSPGo just for convenience. You can even pick up 2nd hand PSP2000/3000 for a lot less than the Go.
I still play my PSPGo, more than my PSP3000? Probably about 50/50 considering I got different games for each of my PSPs.
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