Modern Warfare 2 accused of promoting terrorism

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Modern Warfare 2 accused of promoting terrorism by Joseph

PALGN News: Classification in question.

Mark Smith · Status: Offline Joined: 31 Oct 2009 Posts: 1 $poons: 1.40

Infinity Ward has expressed that the reason they put this terrorist part into the game is to show the atrocities of terrorism. In this scene you play as an undercover agent that has infiltrated the ranks of the terrorist organization. Whoever has seen this video probably felt uncomfortable, but that is the point. IW wants you to understand exactly how horrible these terrorist are and further your desire, as a player, to stop them. I really don't think that this game will be promoting terrorism.

Also, if kids are getting a copy of Modern Warfare 2 despite the MA15+ rating I don't think that it is a problem with the game. It's a problem with the parents. I don't think that changing the rating will change how many children will play Modern Warfare.

macca macca · Status: Offline Joined: 27 Aug 2008 Posts: 178 $poons: 4.80

Are these people serious? This game is not going to make a 15 year old become a terrorist....

rankodour · Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 9:26 am�� Post subject:

Have these clowns not heard of Counter Strike and the myriad of other games with terrorist roles?

Quit moaning and enjoy life!

Nietzsche · Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 9:34 am�� Post subject:

This is ridiculous. How could you see some footage and take it out of context so much?

mloder · Status: Offline Joined: 10 Aug 2008 Posts: 14 $poons: 0.60

You dont f*** with the call of duty series okay so Grand theft auto was still awesome with edited content and left for dead 2 was in the balance but call of duty?! nope they cannot possibly think to deny the rights of thousands of aussies who have been hanging out for this title for aaaaages! its the cinematic quality which makes the game so above the rest - the feeling and the emotion that the developers have managed to draw from their audiences is amazing - there have been movies with this sort of violence in them and are adorned in M15 ratings like Rankodour said

Qbert · Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 11:01 am�� Post subject:

I bet you that flim and music makers are so happy that games have come along. They are not the devil anymore, it's only games that seem to turn you into a terrorist.
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RanerX · Status: Offline Joined: 30 Sep 2009 Posts: 136 $poons: 4.40

Rankodour is right
Counterstrike anyone?

And Mark smith brought up the point that needs to be said to the classification board, it just proves how stupid they are, They dont play the game they just look at it from afar.

Jellyfish · Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 11:18 am�� Post subject:

ManeKast · Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 11:29 am�� Post subject:

I want to crush the conservative ____ that are so backward in our country, I want them to tread on bindies, be sunburnt and dissapear. Trust them to use terrorism as a reason to ban more games, this is getting VERY annoying.

JUST MAKE AN R RATING. YOUR PROBLEMS, PARENTS, ARE SOLVED. THE KIDDIES, IF YOU HAVE ANY ______ PARENTING SKILLS WONT BE EXPOSED TO THIS. SIMPLE.

AAAAAAAAAARGH.
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Qbert · Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 12:14 pm�� Post subject:

john_solids · Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 12:48 pm�� Post subject:

im sure further in the game it counters all that happened in that one scene, to show its not a good thing.
but no have to find everything bad about everything never look at the good side of things.
the news promotes terrorism more then this game would (im sure if anyone was slightly interested in terrorism they would be more willing to go ahead after seeing a news report about another terrorist attack rather then a games one scene). are they going to stop the news too?

3mt · Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 1:00 pm�� Post subject:

This accusation is laughable. I think we need a televised debate to get the message out to the naive public on this blatantly misguided opinion.
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Jellyfish · Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 1:10 pm�� Post subject:

x7h3CUREx · Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 1:11 pm�� Post subject:

Oh for fuck sake ACCM. Go back to your homes with you triple dead bolt security doors and barred windows and let us rational human beings get on with life. Honestly, this sort of stuff really shits me. Gaming as a medium continues to be targeted by these simpletons, the same stuff has been going on in movies, art, tv, and everywhere else but as soon as it appears in a game these kinds of groups have a sook and claim that it immerses the player too much and causes them to want to live out the actions that they play in the game.
Yeah, because after playing every single GTA game ever released I'm still on those meds that are stopping me from driving down the sidewalk in my car. Geez.

sethangel19 · Status: Offline Joined: 31 Oct 2009 Posts: 1 $poons: 0.20

Who the hell cares what these Helen Lovejoy wannabes say? Why even give them media play? Seriously, they are just trying to get attention, if you dont give them attention then they will eventually get bored and go away.

Meanwhile, that name is so funny, Australian Council on Children and the Media, if these Lovejoys gave two stuff's about their children they would be parenting them and spending more time with them. They're not concerned with the children, theirs or others, they just dont think you should have the right to play any videogames other than "jesus and friends", because they have mental issues and think its the work of the devil.

These are people with serious mental illness and dangerous delusions, paranoia and persecution complexes, and it has been scientifically proven that their temporal and fronal lobes do not work like the majority of the population, these people actually present a very real danger to themselves and others, most serial killers suffered similar mental illnesses and delusions, they are able to pass as normal for short periods of time although because of the nature of their delusions they actually present a lot more of a threat to society than most sociopaths.

These are the same people who throughout history have fought technological and social development tooth and nail every step of the way, and would be very happy indeed if we all were back in the "DARK AGES" and thought the world was flat and were illiterate, because in their deluded minds thats how god wants it. They have an irrational fear of technology and their assaults on the internet, videogames and television demonstrate this. Ask them, they honestly believe that the internet, videogames and television serve the devil, and they will tell you outright if you dont let on that you think they're a nutjob.

Thankfully they are a dying breed, proper brain functioning seems to be a dominant genetic trait and organised religion is in its death throes, not in small part to the technological and social acheivements organised religion has historically sought to suppress.

FU*K YOU RELIGIOUS IDIOTS!!

renegadesx · Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 1:57 pm�� Post subject:

This is typical religious propaganda just making stuff up, skewing the truth so it suits their purposes. They are called the "faith over facts" crowd for a reason.

If we are going to be consistent how about we just ban the Bible? After all it promotes genocide, sexual assault (because the R word is censored), slavery and human sacrifice (and Im not talking crucifixion Im talking a young girl as a burnt offering).

At the end of the day the MW2 is supposed to be disturbing, giving the player a narrative on why the bad guys in the game are so evil. Just like with the mentioned above atrocities in a certain book, these zealots always skew context so it always suits their needs.
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Qbert · Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 2:16 pm�� Post subject:

GooberMan · Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 3:25 pm�� Post subject:

Last I checked, depictions of terrorism weren't illegal or a classification guideline.

What exactly is the difference between going on a citizen killing rampage in Grand Theft Auto and this terrorism section? Are people saying that mass murderers are better than terrorists? I'm confused with the message these groups are giving out.
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waz79 · Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 3:51 pm�� Post subject:

I blame conservative media for this beat up.

Jarrod · Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 3:59 pm�� Post subject:

And here. We. Go.
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RanerX · Status: Offline Joined: 30 Sep 2009 Posts: 136 $poons: 4.40

Why is everyone blaming religion FOR THIS!?
Seriously you guys have personal issues.

Global Warming
People getting Fat
Violence being looked at badly
Ads on TV targeting children

Its only now that these things are happening its our culture thats changing and our views, were becoming a more pussy nation by the year.

All Religion Fault? Get real and shutup

drinniol · Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 4:32 pm�� Post subject:

Guys, have any of you even checked out this Council?

http://www.youngmedia.org.au/aboutus/board.htm

It's 9 individuals. This is hardly a large political movement. It's two professors, a doctor and a priest. Heck this is the first time they've been mentioned in just about any news story ever. Thanks media!

SoilMan · Status: Offline Joined: 24 Jun 2009 Posts: 25 $poons: 0.80

As much as groups like the ACCM shit me to tears, I have to say in this instance I can completely empathise with their intentions.

As Jellyfish noted the anyone who watches the news does not need an introduction to the horrors of terrorism - we cop that every week. The inclusion of a mission that requires you to kill non-combatants does not draw a parallel to the horros depicted within the context of a battlefield (i.e. soldiers fighting soldiers) Qbert.

I personally felt that the non-interactive opening to CoD4 was far more effective at conveying the attrocities of state-endorsed terrorism than shooting an airport full of people. And IW's context is lame - infiltrating a terrorist cell by partaking in terrorism? Come on, intelligence agencies try to stop such things and - ignoring the CIA conspiracy theories on Sep 11 etc. - is pretty unrealistic. The fact that IW have a disclaimer before the mission shows that they feel it will cross people's moral line - thus I wonder about their intentions - immersion in the game world or controversy and media attention for an already over-hyped game?

That this material is available to people under 18 is a sure sign of the need for an R classification - but no doubt groups like ACCM won't reason and would advocate a ban rather than a restriction to people mature enough to deal with such in game actions abstractly. Wasn't sold on MW2 after CoD4's single player left me wanting but this news is turning me even further away from a purchase - the world has enough horrible crap in it for me to want to try and enjoy it in interactive entertainment.

Bah, enough moralising from me - lets hear more people complain about the prospect of not getting MW2 - mloders post was classic.

Qbert · Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 5:24 pm�� Post subject:

^Good points, however I wouldn't read too much into the warning, I mean there is one for Assassin's Creed every time you load the game!
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