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WD Elements 1TB Desktop External Hard Drive
- iv had bad experiences with sea gate.
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Get one with Firewire or eSATA. 1 TB over USB is death. Just be aware that any HDD that comes in silver casing will be formatted in HFS+ so you have to go in via disk management in Windows to format it for use.
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| nikack wrote: | | Get one with Firewire or eSATA. 1 TB over USB is death. Just be aware that any HDD that comes in silver casing will be formatted in HFS+ so you have to go in via disk management in Windows to format it for use. |
enlighten me ?
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| mikezilla2 wrote: | | nikack wrote: | | Get one with Firewire or eSATA. 1 TB over USB is death. Just be aware that any HDD that comes in silver casing will be formatted in HFS+ so you have to go in via disk management in Windows to format it for use. |
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USB = slow
Firewire = fast
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i figured as much tho firewire is some what redundant ? , still Mini USB to fire wire would still = slow ?
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| mikezilla2 wrote: | | nikack wrote: | | Get one with Firewire or eSATA. 1 TB over USB is death. Just be aware that any HDD that comes in silver casing will be formatted in HFS+ so you have to go in via disk management in Windows to format it for use. |
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USB transfers data in bursts, it has a theoretical speed of 480 Mbps in reality, depending on your CPU and other activity on the bus (mice, keyboards, webcams, etc) you get a sustained transfer rate of anywhere from 150 to 250 Mbps.
Firewire operates in sustained mode uses DMA, it's transfer rate is 380-390 or 760-780 Mbps.
Not 100% sure on eSATA but it operates roughly at the same speed as the slowest HDD in the chain, something along the lines of 1 Gbps or so.
All three technologies are directly incompatible, there are some converters around but they all operate at the lowest speed in the chain, ie USB.
So yeah, the point I'm making is that USB is for small amounts of data only. Transferring stuff between computers on my 8GB flash drive is bad enough 
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In what way is firewire faster? Just transfer speeds, or would files played from the hard drive play slower or something?
Cheers for all the help.
EDIT: Missed your last post. Looks like I'm going to have to deal with USB, because I can't find an external that has a firewire port for less than $150.
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In most simple terms. USB = dial-up internet. Firewire = Broadband. Your files all work the same, you're just waiting for a fair bit longer for them. You've also gotta check your PC even has Firewire, it's really only on top notch Wintels unfortunately.
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Hi, I recently bought the WD one from Dick Smith's and its really good, I haven't had a problem with it... Unless you mind that its a bit bulky, and you have to plug it into the wall socket and your computer seperately (but that might be the same with all of them, I don't really know)  It didn't need any setting up and I just plugged it in and started copying my things over. So I recommend that one!
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I got a WD My Book 1TB
I use the firewire cable just for a change, literally no difference to USB
BUT, the one thing i hate is the fact that its FAT32 file system, make sure u get one with NTFS
Basically FAT32 means you can't save very large single files, for example a 7GB iso wont copy, you will have to extract it to all the smaller files to store it, its so ****ing annoying and I hate it, don't make the same mistake I did.
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^^^
Why don't you just reformat it in NTFS...?
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| somedude34 wrote: | | I use the firewire cable just for a change, literally no difference to USB |
Guess you've got a "cheap" motherboard. We use firewire for dumping 8 GB images onto computers at work and firewire completes the transfer in a quarter of the time it takes USB.
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I think it depends on what you're transfering because if you've got a lot of small files I'm pretty sure that the system can't send multiple files at once (unless I guess with mutiple cores this has all changed), it's one at a time, so large files will transfer faster than a stackload of little ones. At least, that seems to be my experience with transference of data. Big stuff always moves faster.
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Don't go the WD Elements drive unless you're planning to dump files to/from it and then power it off again. If you plan to run it for hours, it will burn out. We get that many back at work from prolonged use, its not funny.
Go a WD My World/Book.
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| Jellyfish wrote: | | somedude34 wrote: | | I use the firewire cable just for a change, literally no difference to USB |
Guess you've got a "cheap" motherboard. We use firewire for dumping 8 GB images onto computers at work and firewire completes the transfer in a quarter of the time it takes USB. |
http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Products/Motherboard/Products_Overview.aspx?ProductID=2747
yer dirt cheap 
basically the slight upgrade in speed isn't justified for the extra $50, it was probably faster but it definitely wasn't mind blowing, mind you I don't copy massive files often anyway
| domislong wrote: | ^^^
Why don't you just reformat it in NTFS...? |
Could you please hold this 572GB of data while i go do that, lol, its annoying but no annoying enough to waste that much time
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