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 Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 5:54 pm Post subject: Wolverine sequel and a Deadpool spin-off confirmed! |
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After the success of X-Men Origins: Wolverine this past weekend, which has currently managed US$163 million worldwide, yesterday came official worde that a sequel which will take place in Japan is officially on the way. Jackman will again produce through his production company Seed Productions. A scene shown after the movie's end credits teased the Japanese locale, showing Wolverine drinking in a bar in Japan.
Jackman has always expressed his infatuation with the Japanese story arc that originated in the comics and has recently revealed that he has spoken to various writers to tackle the project.
In light of this news is confirmation of a Deadpool spin-off. A movie based on the "merc with a mouth" has long been anticipated by fans everywhere. Reynolds himself has long spoken of his wanting to star in a movie based on the character, as well as Deadpool co-creator Rob Liefeld and Fox Chairman Tom Rothman.
A scene shown after the movie's end credits had already hinted at the possibility of a spin-off. Whether the film will follow in these footsteps or take a different sort of direction is yet to be announced.
Reynolds is already set to reprise the role of Wade Wilson from Wolverine.
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http://www.movieweb.com/news/NEu7WAvzBUvyyy
http://www.movieweb.com/news/NEB4AEGKBl3JFB
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Grew up on X-men so i happy to see a more movies in the works.
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Woooohoooooooooooooo, more Ryan Reynolds!
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Success? My sister saw it and explaining it to me I just wanted to hit something.
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$163 million in less than a week = success.
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| Fly wrote: | | Success? My sister saw it and explaining it to me I just wanted to hit something. |
I thought the movie was cool.I've heard that the movie is barely like the comic but I don't give a rats arse about that.The movie was good if you just forget about what "really" happened.It actually had a decent amount of action unlike most of today's so called "action" movies.
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| Gamesta wrote: | | It actually had a decent amount of action unlike most of today's so called "action" movies. |
So now we rate movies on quantity rather than quality? It had a lot of action, I'll give you that, but I hardly think floaty wirework and terrible CGI is something praiseworthy.
I do like the idea of a Deadpool movie, though. Those three minutes at the start where he actually did something were probably the best part of the whole movie, and him going Gray Fox on those soldiers was cool enough for me to be able to ignore the hokey CGI that made it possible (which is very cool indeed). Ryan Reynolds was made for this character, he played practically the same guy in Blade Trinity and was the only thing that made that movie bearable, too.
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| matrix-cat wrote: | | Ryan Reynolds was made for this character, he played practically the same guy in Blade Trinity and was the only thing that made that movie bearable, too. |
The fact that he's a massive comic book geek, loves deadpool and said he wouldn't do a deadpool movie unless they made it acurate also gives me hopes for it.
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| matrix-cat wrote: | | Gamesta wrote: | | It actually had a decent amount of action unlike most of today's so called "action" movies. |
So now we rate movies on quantity rather than quality? It had a lot of action, I'll give you that, but I hardly think floaty wirework and terrible CGI is something praiseworthy.
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Just because I didn't list more things I liked about the movie doesn't mean there's more I don't like.The action was just the best part of the movie.I also liked the few comedic moments and it had a few scenes that while weren't the most emotional things I have seen, did have some sort of emotion.I liked the moment where he was getting bonded with the adamantium as it was rather cringe worthy without being gory and bloody.
My point was that unlike other action movies with about as much action as walking down to the grocery store aren't my idea of action movies.
Besides not liking movies just because they are mostly about action is boring.Look at Transformers, that movie barely had a story but looked how much people loved the movie.
It's good to sometimes just sit down and watch a movie that's just filled with action and no "I wanna slit my wrists moments".I thought The Punisher was a brilliant movie and we know how shallow the story is in that.
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| Gamesta wrote: |
I thought the movie was cool.I've heard that the movie is barely like the comic but I don't give a rats arse about that.The movie was good if you just forget about what "really" happened.It actually had a decent amount of action unlike most of today's so called "action" movies. |
While I do plan on seeing it myself to draw my own conclusions, this is just sheer idiocy.
You take something from the comics into a movie to appeal to those who read the bloody comics. yes you make it mainstream enough so that everyone can rock up go "oh I see what's going on there" but to go to one such movie and not give a rats arse about why the idea was even brought to become a film is sheer madness and you deserve to be kicked down a well.
You can't just go in and switch off knowing the comics or knowing several of Wolvies origin arcs when they're throwing in random people and events to tie everything into a pretty little bow that has a linear story much like a 2 year old on prozac.
Is this not why Marvel created their own goddamn production agency because all this "oh forget where the idea came from LOOK IT THE SPARKLING PICTURES!" was just retarded?
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| Gamesta wrote: | | Just because I didn't list more things I liked about the movie doesn't mean there's more I don't like.The action was just the best part of the movie.I also liked the few comedic moments and it had a few scenes that while weren't the most emotional things I have seen, did have some sort of emotion.I liked the moment where he was getting bonded with the adamantium as it was rather cringe worthy without being gory and bloody. |
That isn't what I meant, I was talking about the quality of the actual action scenes. I'd never expect anything more from this kind of movie, and I was still disappointed. The fight scenes were floaty messes with awkward, wire-aided backflips aplenty and awful camera work to boot. Worst of all, the CGI was never close to convincing, and I just can't enjoy an action scene when, every other shot, Wolverine turns into poorly rendered CGI Wolverine. I would much rather see some more down to Earth stunts that looked real, rather than completely over the top stuff that has CGI written all over it. Like, say, the two good X-Men movies, for example. In those movies the mutants fight using their specific powers, in this movie everyone seems to have over the top Wire Fu powers as a matter of course, with another mutant power on top.
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| Fly wrote: | | Gamesta wrote: |
I thought the movie was cool.I've heard that the movie is barely like the comic but I don't give a rats arse about that.The movie was good if you just forget about what "really" happened.It actually had a decent amount of action unlike most of today's so called "action" movies. |
While I do plan on seeing it myself to draw my own conclusions, this is just sheer idiocy.
You take something from the comics into a movie to appeal to those who read the bloody comics. yes you make it mainstream enough so that everyone can rock up go "oh I see what's going on there" but to go to one such movie and not give a rats arse about why the idea was even brought to become a film is sheer madness and you deserve to be kicked down a well.
You can't just go in and switch off knowing the comics or knowing several of Wolvies origin arcs when they're throwing in random people and events to tie everything into a pretty little bow that has a linear story much like a 2 year old on prozac.
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You obviously have no understanding of what I mean.I mean that because I don't know the comics well enough meant that I didn't care that the movie was supposedly a LOT different than the comics.If I new a whole lot of Wolverine's origins and such then maybe I would have hated the movie as well (I know I hated what they did with Deadpool and Venom in Spider-Man).
Anyway, they change things because they can't have the all the same things as the comics in a 2 hour movie or things that happened in comics 20 or more years ago may not be as interesting now or they may have just been plain ridiculous to enjoy these days.Or certain characters may not be enjoyable enough or they may not be as preferable as a character they choose to be in the movie.Some things in the comics happen over the course of many years.
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| Fly wrote: |
You can't just go in and switch off knowing the comics or knowing several of Wolvies origin arcs when they're throwing in random people and events to tie everything into a pretty little bow that has a linear story much like a 2 year old on prozac. |
To be fair, wolverines origin is such a fucking convoluted mess it's hard to get upset when they change it.
Also I've gotta say, for all it's faults (Although I did enjoy it but thats just cause I have low standards)
Sabertooth in the movie is probbably my faviourte version of the charecter.
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To be fair, wolverines origin is such a **** convoluted mess it's hard to get upset when they change it. |
Well yeah, because Wolvie is a whore and the "flavour of the month" where they're constantly rewriting everything to fit him into it. My main problem was with the "other" additions where it was much like X-3 in "lets throw in a bunch of mutants who we don't give a toss about for half an hour and kill most of them off." where this was "lets throw in a bunch of mutants to make this seem like a really big thing when it wasn't and blow it epically out of proportion."
I've got little issue with rewriting it entirely if it flows, this didn't flow and was more like story tacked on to dumb down the audience so they go "oooh aaah" at the fight scenes instead of actually think about it.
| Gamesta wrote: | | You obviously have no understanding of what I mean.I mean that because I don't know the comics well enough meant that I didn't care that the movie was supposedly a LOT different than the comics.If I new a whole lot of Wolverine's origins and such then maybe I would have hated the movie as well (I know I hated what they did with Deadpool and Venom in Spider-Man). |
No see that's my point, the movie came around because there was interest in the comic, no interest = no movie for you to be ignorant about and enjoy, so why should the film makers cater to you and not to the informed comic buffs? For you to then be mad at what happened with Venom, Deadpool and things you aren't ignorant about is hypocrisy.
You're not being impartial because as you said you couldn't give a rats arse about the comic and you enjoyed the action. That's great and all but you can't then turn around and debate why others might be pissy with it or things you were then pissy with in regards to comics. You're taking characters from a medium and translating to the screen. If you took a hobbit and made them 12 feet tall, if you took an Alien and made them human, if you took the Monkey king and made him a frog you would be considered a hack. You take a comic character, screw up backstory and create your own fine, if it flows to how the character is then portrayed in every adaptation in film, otherwise the same pretense applies and you're a hack.
| Quote: | | Anyway, they change things because they can't have the all the same things as the comics in a 2 hour movie or things that happened in comics 20 or more years ago may not be as interesting now or they may have just been plain ridiculous to enjoy these days.Or certain characters may not be enjoyable enough or they may not be as preferable as a character they choose to be in the movie.Some things in the comics happen over the course of many years. |
Care to explain Iron man's rave reviews then? Yes they altered the story a bit, yes they took the Ultimate universe and combined it with the Marvel universe to have an amalgamation of characters but by and large the character set didn't differ much in transition and comic buff and "ignorant" person enjoyed it.
Wolverine is not hard to make a film out of because he's been whored out everywhere. His origin story could have involved Nick Fury, the Sub Mariner, Captain America and been an entire war story. It could have involved Omega Red & Sabretooth during the Cold War, It could have involved Old Man Logan which is an origin story for the Dark Reign arc, it could have been many things and the problem was that it was many things without being one thing.
Like I said, I haven't seen it, so my opinion might change when I do, I just doubt that it will.
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All the above = why Marvel Studios should buy the rights. Unfortunately that will probably never happen, so at least we can (hopefully) say that the Avengers story arc, coupled with Iron Man, Thor and Cap flicks coming up with stay faithful in many respects, unlike Wolverine and most probably Deadpool.
That's not to say I didn't enjoy it, in many respects I thought Wolverine was good. But having come out of Star Trek last night, my perception of 'faithful' has been changed dramatically. Hugh, if you're reading this, get in touch with JJ, ya hear?
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| Fly wrote: |
| Gamesta wrote: | | You obviously have no understanding of what I mean.I mean that because I don't know the comics well enough meant that I didn't care that the movie was supposedly a LOT different than the comics.If I new a whole lot of Wolverine's origins and such then maybe I would have hated the movie as well (I know I hated what they did with Deadpool and Venom in Spider-Man). |
No see that's my point, the movie came around because there was interest in the comic, no interest = no movie for you to be ignorant about and enjoy, so why should the film makers cater to you and not to the informed comic buffs? For you to then be mad at what happened with Venom, Deadpool and things you aren't ignorant about is hypocrisy.
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You love putting words into my mouth don't you? Where did I say that the movie had to be made to cater to me? All I did was say that I (no one else) liked the movie, not that the movie was made to cater to me.
Also where did I say people not liking the movie because it had barely anything to do with the comics bothered me? I watched Dragonball Evolution and while I didn't think it was as bad as people on youtube make it out to be, I wasn't really fond that is barely resembled the show.So I know what it's like to dislike something because it's changed too much (that's the reason I hate the Ultimate Marvel Universe). All I did was say that I liked it.All I did was post my opinion, nowhere did I say anything negative about the people who didn't like.
Don't get pissy with me for stating my opinion.The only person here that seems to be bothered here by anything posted here is you.
I'm sorry but if you can't see that I was merely posting my opinion, then you really shouldn't be here.
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| Gamesta wrote: |
You love putting words into my mouth don't you? Where did I say that the movie had to be made to cater to me? All I did was say that I (no one else) liked the movie, not that the movie was made to cater to me. |
I'm not doing anything but debating your point that you knew nothing and enjoyed it and that particular audience should not be entirely catered to. The "you" was impersonal to reflect the audience you belong to as opposed to you as an individual.
| Quote: | | Also where did I say people not liking the movie because it had barely anything to do with the comics bothered me? I watched Dragonball Evolution and while I didn't think it was as bad as people on youtube make it out to be, I wasn't really fond that is barely resembled the show.So I know what it's like to dislike something because it's changed too much (that's the reason I hate the Ultimate Marvel Universe). All I did was say that I liked it.All I did was post my opinion, nowhere did I say anything negative about the people who didn't like. |
Where did I say that you did? I said you weren't being impartial in your judgement because you'd already passed judgement that in Wolvies case you couldn't give a toss. Unless you're retracting your previous statement you really can't take a moral standpoint on other comic adaptations which you did in regards to Spider-man without the double standard rearing it's head, especially when they came from the same studio.
| Quote: | Don't get pissy with me for stating my opinion.The only person here that seems to be bothered here by anything posted here is you.
I'm sorry but if you can't see that I was merely posting my opinion, then you really shouldn't be here. |
What, and I'm posting hieroglyphs?
I post transcript made me want to hit something because to me it was horrible - opinion
You post that you're ignorant on Wolvie (don't give a rats arse) but enjoyed the movie. - opinion, that is fine and dandy, good for you.
Had it ended there there'd be no issue. But then your reasoning for liking it amounted to "lots of action" and "just forget the source material entirely" which yeah sure, as a comic buff that line of thinking irritates me because as I keep saying, Wolvie is a comic character, no comic, no Wolvie, no movie.
How can you then tell people that and then proceed to highlight your dislike about what happened to venom and retain credibility?
How can you even tell people to just forget the source material entirely when without the source there is no premise for the movie?
I'm perfectly fine chalking this down to opinion, because it's what I have been doing. That does not mean you get a free pass on the double standards however.
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Had it ended there there'd be no issue. But then your reasoning for liking it amounted to "lots of action" and "just forget the source material entirely" which yeah sure, as a comic buff that line of thinking irritates me because as I keep saying, Wolvie is a comic character, no comic, no Wolvie, no movie.
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Well me liking it because it had action that I really enjoyed is my opinion and if that would have been all I liked then that would be my opinion.I can't like a movie for whatever reason I want.
Also you say "just forget the source material" as if I was telling people to do that.All I did was say that I was able to forget about the majority of the source material.I didn't say that people had to do the same thing.
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No see that's my point, the movie came around because there was interest in the comic, no interest = no movie for you to be ignorant about and enjoy, so why should the film makers cater to you and not to the informed comic buffs? For you to then be mad at what happened with Venom, Deadpool and things you aren't ignorant about is hypocrisy.
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Actually it's not hypocritical as you have NO reason why I could accept certain changes to one character and not accept changes to another character.
Why did the changing of a lot of stuff in Wolverine not bother me?
Because he still looked and acted like Wolverine.He still had the name Logan.He still had his claws and his health regeneration.So as far as I know they kept the main essence of Wolverine.So I can accept the changes that were made.
Now Deadpool, why did I hate what they did to him?
I know very little about Deadpool but all it takes for me to really like the character is his witty sense of humour and his ability to never shut up earning him the name "The Merc with the Mouth".That's why I hated what they did with him because they took away the MAJOR thing that makes me like him.
Much like Deadpool, they changed the things I LOVE about the Venom character.They basically made him Ultimate Venom and I hate Ultimate Venom (or the entire Ultimate Marvel Univers for that matter).I don't like the fact that he seemed to be able to kill anyone regardless of whether they wronged him or not.The main Reason I LOVE the Venom character is that if he doesn't deem you innocent he will kill you without hesitation.Of course he doesn't really have the best judgment of what makes someone guilty enough to kill them.But if he deems you to be innocent then he won't harm you and will actually protect you (much like my other LOVED character Goku).
So I have legitimate reasons to why I can accept changes of some characters and not changes of another character.
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If you want to see Wolverine at his best, get the Uncaged Edition of the game for PC, 360 or PS3. It's actually better than the movie (a first for movie tie-in games?).
Ive got to say, its one of the best if not the best current representation of a Wolverine game so far. Not counting X-Men 2: The Clone Wars which in my opinion, is one of the best X-Men games ever made and Wolvy is alot of fun to play in it.
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| Jaws wrote: | (a first for movie tie-in games?).
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Chronicles of Riddick
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I'd mentioned Spider-Man 2 as well, great game for its time.
The Wolverine game was good, far from perfect but entertaining.
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don't forget the gambit film.
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| kartanym wrote: | I'd mentioned Spider-Man 2 as well, great game for its time.
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Great game but the movie kicked arse too. Chronicles of Riddick the movie was kind of lame.
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Agreed on both counts. Escape From Butcher Bay was a great telling. The plot of the game beat the film's hands down. Spiderman 2 was the only film I enjoyed out of the three and the game is still a 'benchmark' that newer Spiderman games are compared with today.
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Although Chronicles of Riddick did have Judy Dench, and honestly I’m prepared to forgive a lot for Judy Dench.
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