Red Faction: Guerilla DEMO Discussion

[ArcherGrave]

Red Faction: Guerilla

Demo was released for Xbox 360 and PS3
with extra SLEDGE HAMMER!

Size: 700mb

Now i heard this game was coming and i didnt expect 360 to get this, it was one of my favorite games on the PS2 and after playing the demo it came back to me why , one of the first games to have a destructible environment on the PS2.

it seems the terrain isnt very destructible but everything else blows up in pieces , when you blow things up you can "salvage" blown up pieces towards upgrades.

And i think it uses the same engine mass effect used,

Movie experience
Characters look quite realistic
Blue gunfire ( i know thats not because of the engine )
Materials look exactly as they should
( After you play it , it will remind you of mass effect %100 sure )

Anyways, PLAY IT!

[G3ck0]

I think it is awesome! I love where there are the apartment block things and you throw bombs on certain spots to try and collapse the thing. And walking the walker straight through buildings is fun. I think I will buy it.

[ANDYBALLINA]

After hearing Sambo110 rave about it. I think I will have to look into it.

And if its similar to Mass Effect, then it should be awesome.
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[G3ck0]

In my opinion you have to play it as a sandbox game, as in not focus on killing enemies, doing the mission etc, but just having fun. Like placing bombs in the middle of the road and trying to blow them up at the right time so vehicles go spiralling through fences etc. and making them do backflips etc.

[ObsoletE]

[Benc82]

[Karai Pantsu]

Demo?! DEMO?! WHY AM I AT WORK RIGHT NOW INSTEAD OF DOWNLOADING IT?!

Gah!

DO WANT!

Although after Obs impressions I am slightly worried - as I recall we have fairly similar views on Red Faction, so if it isn't a hit with him...
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[ObsoletE]

^ don't write it off completely from my impressions, as one thing i hadn't picked up on from the pre-demo stuff was that this was a sandbox game (call me slow ), and so i wasn't expecting it.

it's definitely not bad, but it's not what i expected, and i'm not sure if it's "Red Faction", if you know what i mean...
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[ArcherGrave]

[G3ck0]

Hitting someone with a sledgehammer, them making cracks in the wall is funny. The only bad destruction is the low concrete walls, it's just heaps of squares. And if you get in a vehicle and follow the road left, you can sorta see it goes free roam, but the demo ends if you go too far out unfortunately.

[Karai Pantsu]

[Karai Pantsu]

Unashamed bumpage - anyone else had a go with the demo yet? I'd be keen to read what others think of what there is to see so far.

Kind of surprised there hasn't been more interest TBH... I was under the impression that a bit of the old Smashy-Smashy would get more of a response than this.
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[kartanym]

Ok, I've tried the demo out, and while it's fun for the short time you get, I can't help but be a little concerned.

Let me put it this way, it's GTA in a shooters skin and it looks fantastic, but unless there's some creative use of the destructible environments and more than just 'go here, find that, shoot your way out' levels, it's just GTA in a shooters skin.

So although the demo's great, it's hard to say whether it'll be worth a purchase come the full version. I'll be keeping me eye on the reviews though, I certainly do hope it's as good as it wants to be.

[THEMAN]

U G L Y

pass
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[dloiscute]

I like the idea of going third person. But the aiming felt so imprecise.
Not really disappointed, I had fairly low expectations so it ended up being ok.

[Karai Pantsu]

I'm not entirely sold on the third person, to be honest. In some respects it works great - when all you're doing is running about with the sledge smacking people in the chops, or hurling detpacks like a mad thing. But when you're trying to play focus on the gunplay it becomes somewhat problematic. Again, perhaps this is a problem exacerbated by playing on an already blurry CRT in SD, but I find it difficult to actually pinpoint enemy locations while shooting. It seems that the cover system is fairly unpolished too - locking to cover is entirely capricious, working when and if it feels like it, and the loose controls + camera doesn't allow you a decent chance to pop and fire with any degree of effectiveness.

And the destruction - WTH is with that? I can tear through a wall as easy as sneezing on it, but take my sledge to a little exhaust pipe on the roof and I have to wail on that bastard for ages before it breaks! Seems like it suffers from that classic physics engine issue whereby a few things stacked together suddenly become an immovable object, where one alone would move/smoosh as easily as a paper cup. Bah.
Here's hoping the PC version will bring some decent mods to remedy this.

All that said, I'm still enjoying what the demo has to offer. I could nitpick for hours on end based on this ten-minute of content sized demo - or I could simply amuse myself by smacking chunks of wall into troops with a magical sledge. I think the latter wins, for now at least.
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[ArcherGrave]

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+1 thats all the problems with it,

I went outside and got the smallest car you can get ( seriously it was pathetic ) And i rammed through everything even buildings, wtf?

And there is no terrain deformation, not even alittle :/.
And yes third person can feel alittle off when trying to figure out enemies locations.

And for some reason i see hope for it >.<, I recommend everyone play the demo and post up what you think here ( But im pretty sure karai hit it spot on )

[kartanym]

Coming from Rainbow Six Vegas, I didn't find much to dislike about the cover system. I think the demo didnt' really have much areas where it could be used effectively, but I did notice during one sequence that, while pinned down behind cover, I could easily shoot over or around the box. Targeting may be a problem, but I'm sure the option will be there to loosen things up.

On another note, terrain deformation I think is overrated. LucasArts piped on about that so much with Fracture and look how that turned out. General damage is fine for me as long as the gameplay is actually decent enough and the story interesting enough.

[ObsoletE]

terrain deformation can be over-rated, but personally i thought the original red factions did it really well, but then everything still had weight too it.

like if you drove the mining truck into a building, you'd stop. at least until you turned on the drills.
being able to drill around a laser-gate checkpoint instead of shooting through the control booth was awesome, and will be sadly missed, if i can just drive through the building in this...
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[jomonjin]

With what looks like a heap of interesting games on the way at the end of May/start of June, I'm happy that the demo for this has turned me off it completely.

Textures were lo-fi, character movement unnatural, enemy AI lacking. Generally rather ugly I thought.

Add the sandbox mission style with no savepoints and returning to the very start of the mission if you mess up in any of the three stages. Yick... I hated it in GTAIV, I hate it still.

There was a ten minute mission timer that flashed up at the beginning and then DISAPPEARED never to show again? Right? Or did I miss something? I couldn't see how much time I had remaining on my timed mission? Craziness.

The environment destruction was great... great tech wasted on what, to me, looks like a rather average game.

[ArcherGrave]

I dont understand how it is ugly, if your talking about the terrian then yes maybe, but its mars... :/

[kartanym]

Visually I thought it was decent enough, certainly better than most.

The time sits at the top left or right, somewhere up there. It stops once you reach the mech so it becomes a little more free roaming.

[Smurf80]

I downloaded this last night and got to play around with it tonight. Im not entirely sold on it some things I like but other things annoyed me. It might be a bargain bin buy for me.
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[bobboblaw]

I played through the demo today, and while it was quite enjoyable, I'm not completely sold on it. The destruction is actually really good. In games like Mercs 2 and BF:BC, it's just far too scripted. A building is either in pristine condition, or it's completely totaled. In RF:G is really quite thrilling how you can destroy sections of buildings, or the way you could destroy the support columns on a building, and the floors above it collapse

My main concerns with the game is the environment. I just think it'll become bland after a few hours. The trailer at the start of the demo showed off a snowy environment, so perhaps there'll be more diversity later on however (or it could just be a cutscene, I don't know). My other beef is with the storyline/characters. The main characters design just seems far too generic to me, and the storyline looks to be the same military tripe. Hopefully it can prove me wrong in that regard, as at the end of the day, it really was fun, but I'd be more interested if it had a compelling narrative. Again, the trailer showed some potential, but I guess I'll just wait and see.
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[ArcherGrave]

terrian will change

There will be indoors mission
Missions at the ice caps
and more