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PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 10:44 am    Post subject: Fallout 3 patch released Reply with quote

Fallout 3 patch released by Brendan
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But its not for the ps3, correct?
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Nope. Spewin'. Hopefully in the future though.
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Yes, its for all versions of the game according to IGN.
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You can download the update for the PC version by logging onto Games for Windows Live or downloading the update here. PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 users with online connectivity will receive a notification of the update upon starting the game.
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From what I've read, PS3 users already had the patch as it's the one that includes the fix for freezing when you get a system notification...
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 12:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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To clarify,

DLC on 27th is only Xbox 360 and PC.

Patch is for all systems and adds PS3 trophys (PS3 may already have had this in Dec?)

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New Features

* Trophy support. (Playstation 3) Update: As PS3 users have noted, this was made available in mid-December.

Bug Fixes

* Friends notification no longer causes the game to pause. (Playstation 3)
* Fixed occasional crashes during loading and waiting.
* Friendly or neutral NPC health bars, when taking damage, no longer flicker repeatedly.
* Fixed issue where certain NPCs would occasionally disappear from the game.
* Fixed issue where dead NPCs would occasionally come back to life.
* Fixed rendering issue with the Gatling Laser gun's tracers.
* Fixed issue where the haircut menu would occasionally not appear properly.
* Added ability to remap your VATS and pip boy buttons.
* Fixed rare load/save issues that would cause NPCs to behave incorrectly.
* Fixed issue where quest objectives would occasionally not update properly due to talking activators,
* intercoms and conversations.
* Using Radaway from the Pip-Boy's Status Menu repeatedly no longer crashes the game.
* Player no longer gets stuck in level up menu if their skills are maxed out.
* Fixed issue where multiple followers would occasionally not load into an interior.
* Fixed rare issue with getting stuck in VATS mode.
* Fixed rare crash with fighting NPCs with corrupted data.
* In game radios will now play properly if player was listening to the radio in the Pip-Boy first. (Playstation 3)
* Fixed rare crashes while loading and saving games.
* Fixed rare issue where player would fall through the floor while in VATS.
* Fixed occasional crash after scoring a critical hit in the head with a Railway Rifle.
* Prevent NPCs from inadvertently dying from falling.
* Fixed occasional issue where the controller would stop working properly.
* Fixed crashes related to repeatedly equipping and dropping clothing and armor into the world.

Quest Fixes

* Fixed several instances where quest item stayed in inventory permanently after completing quests.
* Fixed an issue where the distress message would occasionally not play in Trouble on the Homefront.
* In The Waters of Life quest, the Citadel gate will open properly if the player fast travels away after exiting the Taft Tunnels but before reaching the Citadel gate with Doctor Li.
* For the Home Sweet Home quest, the broken protectrons in Big Town become active at the proper time.
* In The American Dream quest, fixed specific issue which prevented the player from accessing their belongings in the locker by the door if they left the room first.
* Fixed infinite caps exploit in Strictly Business quest.
* Fixed rare instance where Dad would have no valid dialogue during The Waters of Life quest.
* Prevent issue during the Finding the Garden of Eden quest where player would fade to black, instead of traveling to Raven Rock, while in combat with a follower.
* Fixed several XP speech exploits with certain NPCs.
* Fixed XP exploit with a robot in Fort Bannister.
* Fixed issue where player's controls can become locked permanently during The American Dream.

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Will either patch work for the Australian version of Fallout 3 or are we still screwed with a nearly unplayable Fallout 3? icon_sad.gif
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 1:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Fucking finally! Now perhaps I'll be able to make some progress in the game without having to worry about crashes every 5 to 15 bloody minutes.
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Will either patch work for the Australian version of Fallout 3 or are we still screwed with a nearly unplayable Fallout 3? icon_sad.gif


They work for all versions of Fallout 3, no matter the region or console.
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They work for all versions of Fallout 3, no matter the region or console.


Thanks, that just made my day knowing that Fallout 3 may actually be playable.
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@ the extra content..

Does anyone else thing that these so called exclu$ivity 'tactics' are complete horsepoo? What a childish ploy by Microsoft to try and buy people over to buy their console over Sony's and how ridiculous for the developers to go into such a contract whilst singlehandedly backslapping a faithful consumer! This is coming from someone who doesn't even own a Playstation 3.

"Exclu$ivity" = pile of wank.


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I just installed the patch and 5 minutes in the first level after looking at the SPECIAL book it froze again and has done so 5 times now, the patch is meant to fix this BS and I can't even go 5 minutes in without it freezing, this is really really pissing me off.
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@ the extra content..

Does anyone else thing that these so called exclu$ivity 'tactics' are complete horsepoo? What a childish ploy by Microsoft to try and buy people over to buy their console over Sony's and how ridiculous for the developers to go into such a contract whilst singlehandedly backslapping a faithful consumer! This is coming from someone who doesn't even own a Playstation 3.

"Exclu$ivity" = pile of wank.


It's called buisness.
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@ the extra content..

Does anyone else thing that these so called exclu$ivity 'tactics' are complete horsepoo? What a childish ploy by Microsoft to try and buy people over to buy their console over Sony's and how ridiculous for the developers to go into such a contract whilst singlehandedly backslapping a faithful consumer! This is coming from someone who doesn't even own a Playstation 3.

"Exclu$ivity" = pile of wank'

Your absolutely right, Microsoft are being douches by doing this and it's ridiculous Bethesda are doing it, it's the same for GTAIV's exclusive content and if PS3 owners don't get the third DLC which extends the overall story then thats terrible and Microsoft are being jerks.
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Your absolutely right, Microsoft are being douches by doing this and it's ridiculous Bethesda are doing it, it's the same for GTAIV's exclusive content and if PS3 owners don't get the third DLC which extends the overall story then thats terrible and Microsoft are being jerks.

Again, it's not microsoft being 'jerks' it's a smart buisness decision. Do you honestly think Sony wouldn't pull the same thing if given the opportunity?
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^ and didn't they do exactly that, with Mirror's Edge?
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It's called buisness.


And here I thought gaming; when it comes to being a consumer, was all about entertainment and having fun?

I suppose Bethesda don't mind that they're actually risking losing support from fans who don't own a 360.

Yes, developers, etc need to get paid for their work. Gaming was always a business and way for people in the industry to get paid. Now it seems everyone wants to maximise their money, regardless of how it's done. That's what disappoints me these days..


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I suppose Bethesda don't mind that they're actually risking losing support from fans who don't own a 360.

or PC.

so basically, losing the support of those with the game on the PS3.

i'm sure the money they got from Microsoft for exclusivity more than paid for the estimate they'd made from selling the content to PS3 users.

i bought it on the XBox primarily for the DLC - i mean it was the deciding factor for me. if the content was PS3 exclusive, i would've bought it on PS3.

mission accomplished from MS's perspective.
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Benza wrote:
It's called buisness.


And here I thought gaming when it comes to being a consumer was all about entertainment and having fun?


It is about having fun for consumers. Microsoft and Bethesda arent the consumers though are they? They are the business trying to make money. Obviously Bethesda saw it as a good business decision, same with Rockstar.

I agree it sucks for consumers. But you cant blame MS for trying to gain the upper hand in their market. ALL companies do this. Microsoft dont care that they are screwing PS3 owners out of DLC.

Anyway I bought the x360 version so hurray icon_smile.gif
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Microsoft and Bethesda arent the consumers though are they? They are the business trying to make money.


That much is obvious. Apart from the "hooray for me because I got the 360 version" part, I feel that it's disappointing for a developer to buy into a deal that leaves other fans in the dry. Dont you? How would you feel if it was an exclu$ive on a console that you didn't own and couldn't afford to get for the sake of one game?

And most importantly, to go off what you say further..

Benc82 wrote:
I agree it sucks for consumers. But you cant blame MS for trying to gain the upper hand in their market. ALL companies do this.


It's a sad state of affairs when we're charged money to get our hands on a few ingame 'costumes' or a level that was left out of a game specifically for people to pay for it. This applies to all the micro transaction crap we're getting shoved down our throats these days. Instead of making a full game now, it seems that developers are trimming the fat and selling it by the milligram.

The worse part? People are actually forking out for it!

Quality is only set to decline in games if people are so quick to part with their cash. You said it yourself.. publishers are in it for the big bucks and not just a simple paycheque like it used to be. Exploitation (or is that extortion?) is only sure to rise if the "Maximum $$ Leeched From The Consumer Test" never gets shot down. You talk about the fact that it's the right business plan, but what about morality? How does this business plan affect you? Or more importantly.. how will it affect you in the future, is the question you should ask yourself, because the way things are going, companies feeding from your wallet successfully will give you no quarter.

Freedoms exist on every plane and even in gaming. There's the DRM issue for example, or forced advertising in games when you already paid the full price. Let's not try and forego the freedoms we enjoyed in the past by showing money leeching companies that we will so easily submit to their methods.

A more recent example is the Microsoft and their "Games For Windows" 'initiative' (more like "debacle"). I am hoping with crossed fingers that there are PC gamers out there who somehow refuse to fork out for an Xbox 'Live' subscription just to play online. If this isn't the case and PC gamers are quite happy to pay for something they've been able to enjoy for free for 12+ years, then the world has simply gone to the dogs. M$ is really overstepping the mark on that one.
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Dont you? How would you feel if it was an exclu$ive on a console that you didn't own and couldn't afford to get for the sake of one game?


The same way I would for any other console exclusive. I'd like to play uncharted or FF 13 Versus but I'm not going to curse out Sony for being money hungry evil satanists for having exclusives on em.


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Quality is only set to decline in games if people are so quick to part with their cash. You said it yourself.. publishers are in it for the big bucks and not just a simple paycheque like it used to be. Exploitation (or is that extortion?) is only sure to rise if the "Maximum $$ Leeched From The Consumer Test" never gets shot down. You talk about the fact that it's the right business plan, but what about morality? How does this business plan affect you? Or more importantly.. how will it affect you in the future, is the question you should ask yourself, because the way things are going, companies feeding from your wallet successfully will give you no quarter.


Question: If quality was set to decline then why was 2007 agreed by most people to be one of the best years in gaming, with 2008 close behind it. The quality of games comming out at the moment is pretty fucking awesome.

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Freedoms exist on every plane and even in gaming. There's the DRM issue for example, or forced advertising in games when you already paid the full price. Let's not try and forego the freedoms we enjoyed in the past by showing money leeching companies that we will so easily submit to their methods.


They provide a game that I want to buy, I give them money to purchase it. They then later release downlodable content that I would like to purchase, I give my money to them in exchange for it.

I don't see this as money leeching, I see this as exchanging goods and services for money. Like people have been doing since forever.
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Jaws - I guess we are going a little off track here, but I agree 100% about games for windows having to pay for what has been free for many years. Lame.

But this generation of consoles has introduced downloads, patches, dlc etc that we haven't had before, so it opens up a whole new way for Sony/Nintendo/Microsoft to make money. I agree with you, paying for extra skins is a bit rich, so I choose not to.

In this case I dont think this is simply a level that was left out of the full game, but something they have gone to the effort of creating in addition to main game. So I will happily buy it....I also have a fulltime job so its not a big deal to me spending $10 here and there, but I guess to some of the younger gamers it sucks.

I guess it all depends on which way you view it..... left out of main game or expansion to the main game?

Back on topic I understand what you are saying about morality etc, but this is the world we live in companies do deals with other companies for exclusive markets, not just in gaming, how many times do you hear "available exclusively at.....". I dont really think its childish, it's how business runs.
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I think its hillarious all this ' ohh its all about the gamers experience' bs.

Microsoft obviously needs to make xbox 360 attractive as possible, and its a bloody awesome business move securing dlc for big name games such as fallout 3 and gta 4. good on them, they are doing as wel for the console as they can.
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Honestly I want to see a DLC pack that stops the charecters from being horrifying dead eyed emotionless zombies...
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