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Peveus


Status: Offline Joined: 07 Mar 2004 Posts: 2569 $poons: 750.40 Location: Melbourne

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Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 3:35 pm Post subject: Perception of Time II |
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As a pseudo followup to my previous thread (good news btw, after 48 hours, the effect went away) I thought I'd do a tally on time speeding up as you get older.
Many people are no doubt familiar with old people saying it seems every other week is christmas or years are speeding up more and more. Well I know it's affected me the past few. Days can seem to drag on, but think back on them and months feel like a couple of weeks.
What's scary is that I'm only 23. Can't imagine what it will be like when I'm twice this age. _________________
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ittekimasu


Status: Offline Joined: 01 Mar 2007 Posts: 3626 $poons: 411.20 Location: Melbourne, Victoria

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Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 3:39 pm Post subject: |
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The thing with time is that after you've lived it you tend to look back on it and comment how fast it went by, and always during the time where life seems most difficult a person can always comment how it tends to feel like eternity. Time moves in an orderly fashion people can just have a very warped sense of time which i figure largely contributes to how the person is feeling.
so the next time she says you only lasted for a minute, pull out that stop watch and show her exactly how long you lasted. _________________
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BurnZ


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Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 3:46 pm Post subject: |
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I'm Hiro Nakamura.
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R.I.P. DEJA VU - 21/08/2010
R.I.P. Tanya - 16/04/2011
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Ken_Gooner


Status: Offline Joined: 03 Oct 2007 Posts: 1228 $poons: 264.70 Location: Gold Coast, Australia

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Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 3:49 pm Post subject: |
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I agree with the 2nd post, we tend to look back on time and comment on how quick it went.
Its the end of the school year for me, and we're all going on about how fast the year went. But the majority of us talked about how slow the year was about half way through the year.
I personally think that life is incredibly slow, its probably because I'm bored right now, and I'm only 14. _________________
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Evan


Status: Offline Joined: 10 Mar 2007 Posts: 439 $poons: 145.40 Location: Sydney

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Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 4:53 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, it happens. Yeah, it gets worse. A week to me feels like a day used to. And, I still remember how long an afternoon felt when I was a kid.
On the bright side, I'm a whole order of magnitude more productive than I used to be, and that's in a good sense - I get a lot more meaning out of my life, even if I'm exhausted most of the time.
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harness


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Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 6:41 pm Post subject: |
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I'm accelerating ever closer to my death. Back in the day, each consecutive year of school was faster than the last. Now, my days just fly by. I've been waking up a bit earlier (8.30ish) to fit more into my day, compared to 11am. It helps, but not that much.
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3mt


Status: Offline Joined: 20 Jun 2007 Posts: 1578 $poons: 327.90 Location: Sydney

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Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 6:52 pm Post subject: |
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Well, theoretically, we are all living in different frames of reference with respect to time. This means that time slows down for people who travel faster (but only by a very very very very very small amount).
So time ain't stationary. It's just a frame or reference. _________________
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Puddingfork


Status: Offline Joined: 28 May 2006 Posts: 2708 $poons: 209.15 Location: Brisbane, QLD

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Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 7:58 pm Post subject: |
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I think we wouldn't think would not feel so fast if we actually remembered everything. I don't usually think back on how fast or slow time seemed over an entire year, I don't see the point. I do however complain a little when its a boring day and feels like forever. _________________
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ObsoletE


Status: Offline Joined: 30 Sep 2003 Posts: 20357 $poons: 34.20 Location: Perth, WA :: Jubei'Thos

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Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 9:01 pm Post subject: |
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time is a percentage of you're life.
30 minutes to a 10 year old is relatively less than 30 minutes to a 20 year old.
hence, afternoons feel longer when you're a kid.
personally, i'm interested in the period just before death.
if you think about it, time moves in a fashion that you can quanitify by halves.
stand 10 metres from a door and i'll prove how it's mathematically impossible to walk through it.
moving towards the door, only move in iterations of half-lengths. ie: move half the distance every time you move.
so, 5m, 2.5m, 1.25m, 0.625m and so on.
you're eventually moving infinitesimally smaller distances, approaching the asymptote of 0 (ie: as number of moves approaches infinity, distance travelled approaches 0), and so it's mathematically impossible to move through a door.
i wonder then if time when you die is likewise.
so if we measure time relative to the point of death, do we move in half-lives?
will the point of death me an immeasurably infinite time span?
will our brains then imagine the next infinite years ahead of the 0-point (ie: death) such that death is relatively meaningless to the person experiencing it?
and, for the record, yes, i am drunk, but this is not a new thought pattern for myself.
don't worry, i'm not about to test the hypothesis through suicide or anything, but it's a concept, i find fascinating. _________________
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ObsoletE


Status: Offline Joined: 30 Sep 2003 Posts: 20357 $poons: 34.20 Location: Perth, WA :: Jubei'Thos

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Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 9:10 pm Post subject: |
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oh, and from a nerdy physics perspective, it is theorised that time is indeed slowing down, as it's commonly held now that time is relative to relative mass and acceleration.
and since the big bang, mass is moving apart and accelerating (albiet, negatively, so decelerating) and as such an hour now isn't worth the same as an hour 100,000 years ago, but instead moves faster.
the same concept surrounds the theory of black holes, since they are incredibly dense (to the point that gravity > speed of light, hence their "blackness") time should theoretically "slow down" nearer to black holes.
it's all theory of course. the only way to measure such things is to find a black hole, and have 2 base stations along a line, which passes close to the black hole. in theory, a vessel that passes from one point to the other should take less time than what passes between the 2 observer stations.
i am probably explaining this very badly, and perhaps no one cares.
otherwise i might leave this until tomorrow and:
a) see what the hell i've written, and
b) try explain it to someone who isn't in that stage of philosophically drunk
c) remove this double post, compressing it into a single post.  _________________
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Nietzsche


Status: Offline Joined: 18 Nov 2008 Posts: 2543 $poons: 119.80 Location: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia, Earth

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Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 10:21 am Post subject: |
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I believe it has something to do with our memory. Each year we remember less and less and hence when we look back on the year it seems shorter.
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Fetidchimp


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Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 10:26 am Post subject: |
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Add one second before 2009 _________________ kill, kill, kill.....the white man. Kill the white man, kill
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Jarrod


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Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 1:09 pm Post subject: |
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| ObsoletE wrote: | | oh, and from a nerdy physics perspective, it is theorised that time is indeed slowing down, as it's commonly held now that time is relative to relative mass and acceleration. |
Quite true, although relatively meaningless to human perception. Our personal measurement and understanding of time varies from person to person, from event to event. We're capable of, from our perspective, slowing down and speeding up time.
EG: If you're having a lot of fun time will fly, whereas if you're bored shitless time will slow to a crawl.
While time itself might not specifically change it's pace, our perception of it does, and we're capable of altering that perception on the fly while at the same time being bound to the atomic decay laws of time. _________________
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lennex15


Status: Offline Joined: 15 Mar 2008 Posts: 450 $poons: 147.60 Location: Melbourne

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Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 1:42 pm Post subject: |
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At times I definitely believe that i live outside the space time continuum.
Deja Vu happens to me all the time. I either frequently repeat the same actions and perform them over and over or I have some sort of pre cognition of what it is going to happen/what I'm going to do. But this feeling of sh*t I've done this before always happens to me.
Also when stopped at traffic why is when I'm stopped at lights and cars move cause they have an arrow I feel like I'm travelling backwards in time this is one of the most unusual situations and happens all the time.
Next I'll be a visited by a dude in a bunny suit asking what's the deal with my man suit. _________________
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Dropbear


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Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 6:46 pm Post subject: |
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| lennex15 wrote: | | Next I'll be a visited by a dude in a bunny suit asking what's the deal with my man suit. |
Don't worry, the furry invasion isn't for another few years. _________________
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Jellyfish

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Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 7:03 pm Post subject: |
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| ObsoletE wrote: | stand 10 metres from a door and i'll prove how it's mathematically impossible to walk through it.
moving towards the door, only move in iterations of half-lengths. ie: move half the distance every time you move.
so, 5m, 2.5m, 1.25m, 0.625m and so on.
you're eventually moving infinitesimally smaller distances, approaching the asymptote of 0 (ie: as number of moves approaches infinity, distance travelled approaches 0), and so it's mathematically impossible to move through a door. |
You're using old mathematics though. As distances approach the Planck length the chances of Quantum Tunnelling increase, once that happens you'd be on the other side of the door.
Huzzah Quantum physics came in handy for something
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Jarrod


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Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 9:48 pm Post subject: |
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Unless the multiverse and Quantum Immortality proves true, in which case you will never experience 'death' and instead continue to exist in a split universe where your death never happened, while you 'die' in another. _________________
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NeoSanity

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Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2008 12:04 am Post subject: |
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I feel that my mind is largely irrelivent to time, memories, visions, knowledge are all built upon our experiances and encounters. However it is the inherit logic, capacity and will of the brain which is totally independant of time itself, without these memory, visions and knowledge are all just meaningless entities without coherance or relevance.
The idealogy that time is shorter is an illusion, memories become condensed and our experiances and thoughts created huge spans in our minds in which time is cut out due to it's irrelivance to our day to day lives. So when we think of time our mind's only grasp of it is that of the spanse that has been left there by fragmented memories, as well get older our meories fragment even more, the spanse changes and our minds consider time to be quicker because our memory is even more condensed.
A child experiances the opposite since they are still yet to determine what is and isn't valuable memory so thoughts are not condensed. Our childhood memories are thus perceived as tedious as your childhood memories are far more munande as a child will abosrb every little peice of their surroundings still trying to determine what is and isn't relevent.
This illusion is completely, that an illusion and the more we think about it the more we tend to believe is because we reflect on our thoughts and memories more. Time is constant, if you fall into the illusion that it isn't, you'll loose so much precous time procrastinating because of your inability to comprehend the scale of time and thus spend more of it reflecting rather than experiancing. Accept that it is an illusion and try to fit as much as you can into a day, you'll be suprised at what you can do.
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Zarnoss Banned User


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Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2008 12:38 am Post subject: |
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Time is a constant, via our man made ways , through viewing the stars and equilibriating the maths behind the perception of our star system via what we know.
If anything fuck all this shit , live life like you are going to die tomorrow. _________________
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Aftershock


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Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2008 1:01 am Post subject: |
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The sherpas live longer than other people not because of the harsh climate they've adapted to, or their extraordinary level of fitness, or their perfectly balanced diet, but due to the fact that because of the high altitude they live at, they are further from the centre of the earth, and thus are moving faster as the earth rotates, and thus time for them is slower. _________________
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3mt


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Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2008 10:10 am Post subject: |
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Time is not a constant. Our frame of reference to time will change as we move closer to the speed of light. It's all in Einstein's Special Theory of Relativity.
And then you get all this length contraction and mass increase stuff. _________________
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