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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 12:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There was very few of the original ones that I didn't like - the Timothy Dalton ones never worked for me, Moonraker wasn't bad till it turned into Star Trek, but the rest were great. For some strange reason I particularly liked OHMSS with Lazenby - good story, funny without being as camp as a lot of the Roger Moore stuff, and a much more physical bond not afraid to punch people in the face when required. Goldfinger, Thunderball and Diamonds are Forever were always my favourites from the classic era. Thought Goldeneye was great, and they sort of went downhill a bit from there, the product placement in some of the later Pierce Brosnan ones was becoming unbearably crude.

Think the new ones are just fantastic, actually feel like spy movies again, although I think I died a little inside seeing what they did to the Aston at the start of QoS.
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I have to say this movie was awful.

Not only does it seem making it a sequel was a bad idea, but they CHANGED some of the stuff from the first. WHAT THE!?

And the enemies which seemed like such a large and dangerous organisation in the first movie appear more as low grade terrorists. Their grand evil scheme is so laughable I almost vomited coke and popcorn on the person in front of me.

Truly awful. AWFUL movie. You know its bad because the best part about it was the trailer for Australia before it :\
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Didn't like it anywhere near as much as Casino Royale.

The villain looked like a little kid (Lechiffre, even Mr White came off as far more villainous), and the major plot points (least fo which being how they always link X with Y) were sort of lost in a sea of mumbled dialogue. The opera scenes were amazing, but the climax was too rushed and came out a bit weak.

Servicable movie, good action, but wasn't as cohesively drawn together as I would have liked.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 4:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Not only does it seem making it a sequel was a bad idea, but they CHANGED some of the stuff from the first. WHAT THE!?

What changed? There was nothing inconsistent with Casino Royale.

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And the enemies which seemed like such a large and dangerous organisation in the first movie appear more as low grade terrorists. Their grand evil scheme is so laughable I almost vomited coke and popcorn on the person in front of me.

Extorting money? Did you miss the previous 20 movies in which the bad guys were trying to extort money from various governments? Doing so through controlling a scarce resource is a fairly fresh, modern and 'realistic' take on the whole diamond studded super-weapon method of old.

I don't really understand people who claim Casino Royale to be some triumph in the Bond franchise, yet criticise Quantum for not having over the top villains, pun-driven humour or outlandish plot lines. These seem to be the same people that would be equally as vocal if the series hadn't been re-imagined. If you don't like the reboot, there's 20 movies that did the old style to death. Fact is it was getting incredibly stale and a new take on the series is what was needed. I firmly believe the new movies are excellent, and excellent because they are different to what we had before. I still love the old ones, but I've got 20 of those sitting on my shelf to watch should I feel the need.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Quantum was an interesting film. I didn't like the editing very much. It works in Bourne because the style is about the character; it's about getting us inside Bourne's muddled mind, his instincts and his natural reactions. Bond's action should be elegant rather than based on kinetic energy.

That said, I did like the film as a whole. It felt like a film student has finally made a Bond film. How many references to previous films were there? I can remember at least three:

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1. The Tilly Masterson reference from Goldfinger, with Agent Fields covered in oil.
2. A nice new spin on the Moonraker pre-credits sequence with the parachute.
3. The dropping-a-guy-over-the-edge after interrogation thing from Octopussy (I think? It was a Moore film, I'm a little confused).

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Well, I think Quantum is a great movie. I agree with what Spanca was saying, and I think while I didn't necessarily take a liking towards the main villain from this one, I still thought it was a decent effort to keep the movie on track, and continue to ground it, as well as the story, in some seamless reality, like they did with Casino. I also think it was fairly well done for a direct sequel, tying up a majority of loose ends.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 10:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If you don't like the reboot, there's 20 movies that did the old style to death. Fact is it was getting incredibly stale and a new take on the series is what was needed. I firmly believe the new movies are excellent, and excellent because they are different to what we had before. I still love the old ones, but I've got 20 of those sitting on my shelf to watch should I feel the need.


They weren't getting stale in the sense of 'Bond doing it again' it was stale because it's the same action film that had already been out twice in the year. As previously mentioned, I was incredibly disappointed in CR. If I wanted to watch a Bourne film, I would watch a Bourne film, which is sitting on my shelf.

But of course, that being said, I might go and see QoS this weekend, if I can find the time. Despite my negativity towards it, I still want to see it.
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I watched QS and thought it was awesome, but then I'm in the habbit of thinking anything involving Judy Dench is the bees knees. Seriously I would watch her read the phonebook.
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Havn't seen the newest one yet, but looking forward to it. I like what Daniel Craig has done with the bond character.
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I'm a little cut about this movie. I went and saw it, only to find out today that my boss is shouting everybody for a private screening in a Melbourne cinema next tuesday icon_sad.gif icon_sad.gif icon_sad.gif
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 11:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I saw it this afternoon and enjoyed it, but didn't think it was anything special. I absolutly hated the fast paced editing in the car chase and fight scene. Actually it was OK in the fight scene as it made me feel uncomfortable and made the fight more brutal and realistic, but I still didn't enjoy not knowing what was happening.

I feel that it was also to short and they didn't felsh out the main plot enough. It felt like they just kept moving from sub plot to sub plot without ever really resolving the main plot.

Overall though I enjoyed it, doesn't come close to Casino Royale and I am mainly dissapointed as it seems like a missed opportunity. Worth a watch, even a re-watch, but I won't be buying it.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 12:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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finally saw it yesterday. had planned to see it last weekend, but a migraine (a proper, do nothing but lie as still as possible in the dark migraine, not a "headache") put a stop to those plans.

anyway, loved it, and tbh i don't understand how anyone who liked Casino Royale could possibly say this one was bad, it's simply the second act of the same film - it's one, 4 and a half hour film.
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Quantum was an interesting film. I didn't like the editing very much. It works in Bourne because the style is about the character; it's about getting us inside Bourne's muddled mind, his instincts and his natural reactions. Bond's action should be elegant rather than based on kinetic energy.

given Bond's mindset in this film, post Vesper, your reasoning has as much relevance to this particular moment in Bond's life as the Bourne films.

the only aspect i didn't like, was the "Minority Report" style briefings.

the other thing people didn't seem to like was the intro. i quite enjoyed it. i mean, the song was pretty meh (i mostly didn't like the rock take on the actual Bond theme - it was a bit too Limp Bizkit/Mission Impossible theme for my liking), but then i don't like probably 75% of the theme songs in the past, but the credits themselves were very nice.
(i still maintain the should release a DVD of JUST the Bond intros. kind of like a video-clip compilation. even with the other 21 films already on DVD, i'd buy that in an instant.)

as an aside, i did have to laugh at the cinema's attempts to cash in on Bond-mania, with their candy bar item called the "Quantum Combo".
given Quantum just means "very small" (so the film name is literally, "a small amount of peace"), so this combo is basically the "Very Small Combo".
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Saw the movie today and I thought it was enjoyable. I also prefer to think of it as the second half of CR, rather than a separate film, because I think on it's own it was pretty weak.

I knew I should have re-watched CR before seeing QoS. But I didn't, and because of this I couldn't remember the plot of CR, which made understanding things a bit hard.

Even still, it was a great movie. I didn't really like the opening theme and the song didn't seem to fit. Unlike most of you though, I actually liked the villian. He played the part well and just looked like a real bastard icon_smile.gif

The action was great too - definitely a lot more than CR which was good as that was one of the things lacking from that movie. I get that he is driven by revenge which is the reason for the Bourne-like style, but I actually didn't have a clue how he killed that guy on the balcony (the one he impersonated to get the breifcase).

The one thing I can't get past with the reboot is that Bond actually properly kills people now. In the old movies, he'd always find a way to indirectly kill them, eg. in Die Another Day, Bond shot a chandelier which falls on Zaoh to kill him. I know this is all to do with the new take on the franchise, but it feels like it's just turned into James Bourne.
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I did myself a huge injustice by ignoring the original and ultimately paid the price as I left the picture theatres feeling a little indifferent. Good Bond, Decent-ish film but one of those films that fails to stand by itself which I've always disliked.
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James Bond is Jason Bourne.

QoS was good but it wasn't a very good Bond film, in my opinion. The plot was really very weak and rushed, and the characters were poorly developed. It felt like it was just trying to get to the action scenes and that was about it.

On the note of action, I felt that the climax of the film really wasn't that amazing. I put this down to how 'epic' pretty much every action scene was. Rather than build up to some unimaginably epic action scene to finish the movie, it seemed like 'just more stuff blowing up'.

All in all a good action film, but far too weak on plot and character development. I hope the next Bond takes a note from Casino Royale and the like and balances the action and plot nicely, rather than trying to be a roller-coaster ride of stuff blowing up.
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The one thing I can't get past with the reboot is that Bond actually properly kills people now. In the old movies, he'd always find a way to indirectly kill them, eg. in Die Another Day, Bond shot a chandelier which falls on Zaoh to kill him. I know this is all to do with the new take on the franchise, but it feels like it's just turned into James Bourne.


Bond always killed plenty of nameless goons. That whole licence to kill thing wasn't just a figure of speech.
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Bring back the old Bonds. Didn't like Quantum of Solace.

Loved the Dalton and Connery incarnations of Bond, and OHMSS was one of the best films.
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Does anyone else really like the James Bond song? The Alicia Keys/Jack White one.
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Does anyone else really like the James Bond song? The Alicia Keys/Jack White one.

not really.

the main issue i had with it was how it incorporated the Bond Theme (Dada, boomp, dada, boomp, dingdidalingding dingdingda dingdidalingding dingding etc) and "rock"ed it.
it reminded me too much of the Limp Bizkit take on the Mission Impossible theme for MI2 or 3 (w/e).

that said - i don't really like most of the Bond songs.
the intros are all awesome, and if they ever released a compilation of just the intros, i'd be over it like a fat kid on cake, but mostly because of the style of them as clips, not the songs.

it's a bit like the Director Series with all the video clips directed by such and such a director (Michel Gondry, Spike Jonze, Mark Romanez, etc.) - i don't like most of the actual songs, but combined with the videos, they're awesome.

EDIT: heh, just realised i said virtually the same thing in the post up there saying i just saw the film. it's still true.
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I thought the song was so cool ... as well as the intro clip (like Obs was saying). Although the music video for it, was Keys pregnant or something?
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wait, there's a "proper" video clip for it to?

what's the f**king point?
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yeah, here it is if you're interested ... http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=hM5UJvnbbuY

but i swear, she's either pregnant, or that belt of hers is bulging down her weight, and it makes the whole music video look so ridiculous
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I actully thought that the intro to this movie was kind of weak.

Also she didn't look pregnant to me.
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That song really doesn't work. The song seems to be written with Jack White in mind and Alicia Keys voice, and style, doesn't really fit that staccato style of vocal. As a result the whole thing sort of fails miserably. It would have worked much better if it was one or the other and it played on their particular strengths, as it stands, it sounds bad and it really doesn't exemplify (I may be pulling this word out of my arse, but it sounds cool) Keys vocal abilities.
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wait, there's a "proper" video clip for it to?

what's the f**king point?


There's been proper video clips for all of them for the last couple of Bond films.
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