Will the PS3's Blu-ray advantage continue?

Glen McLeod-Thorpe

Will the PS3's Blu-ray advantage continue? by Glen

PS3 News: Perhaps not in the long-term, according to the President of the AIAS.

Buttmouth · Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 11:58 pm�� Post subject:

Well no duh Mr. President.

Still, I'd prefer to keep 50GB worth of data on a Blu Ray disc than on my hard drive.

It's like saying CD's are gonna be ObsoletE soon.

Everything is going to be ObsoletE soon!

EDIT: \/ Good points by the two I expected those points from the most.
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Lord Haart · Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 12:06 am�� Post subject:

I think the real challenge facing bluray is that for the price, it offers very little. Sure, 50GB is alot, but if the disk costs $15 alone, that's a fair amount. For less than 7 times the price ($99), I can get a hard drive around 15 times the size (750GB), so that's over twice as cost effective. The real issue here is that Bluray resolution is nice, but not really worth the premium to the vast majority of users - kind of like Gold Class cinema. Who forks out $35 for a movie ticket when it's $10 to see it on a bigger screen?

HDTV is great, but I can watch a 720p show on my 1920x1200 display and not really see/care about the difference between that and 1080p. Especially for games, the lower resolution actually acts as a form of anti-aliasing since edges are automatically blurred, so the picture often looks smoother.

This debate didn't exist for DVD vs VCR, which is why the DVD (and with it, the PS2) took markets by storm.

Fly · Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 12:06 am�� Post subject:

Bloody analysts and their goddamn doomsday premonitions.

Everything's going to shift to digital downloads within the next decade when currently we still can't do squat about securing the PC downloads, we're running around like headless chooks screaming "zomg piracy, zomg latest prevention method cracked in 0.94 seconds!" and then this guy comes out with this gem?

"Digitial downloads will dominate the market.. depending on the users internet speeds... and security... and storage space... prevention of transferring the purchase... you know what screw it, the worlds ending in 4692, QUOTE ME ON THAT!"

Joseppi needs to focus more on whatever it is he infact does than state obvious conjecture. Why I bet Africa is really excited about that them thar intaweb donloady thingies...

john_solids · Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 1:10 am�� Post subject:

corect me if I'm wrong, but even if all games were to be digitally distributed, wouldnt sony still have the edge, considering the ps3's hard drive can be upgraded to a much larger hdd, where as the 360 needs an official hdd which costs alot more (and whats the largest you can upgrade it to?) and the wii, can it get a larger hdd? or does it even have on? (really no idea)
but also the next 5-7 years we will probably be seeing the next gen of consoles, and by looking at the way sony has done things (ps1-cd's, ps2-dvds, ps3-blu-ray) we might be seeing a brand new media disc, or maybe an extra large hdd to store these games, maybe something crazy like 10tb hdd.
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bradc1988 · Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 1:43 am�� Post subject:

By the time digital distribution rears its head we will be in the next generation of consoles.

Sony need to make the most of their advantage while they still have it. Which I hope they do since I bought one a few weeks ago!
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evil_kenshin · Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 7:04 am�� Post subject:

Thing is even though it may be true that digital distribution is the way of the future, look at Australia's download limits?

Rather than increase the download limit, some companies especially Optus and Telstra have been decreasing the limits while increasing the cost.

unfortunately Australia's internet network is not up to scratch with other locations and digital distribution would be a massive loss to Australia.
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littlemo · Status: Offline Joined: 16 Sep 2006 Posts: 111 $poons: 7.40

Digital distribution is a pie in the sky dream until broadband prices/plans improve especially here in Australia. 1 50gig game per month on most Optus & Telstra plans is most, if not all of your download limit for the month... and yeah people are with other providers but the majority of Australians aren't on huge plans which would allow for the kind of digital distribution proponents keep pimping.

Scubafinch · Status: Offline Joined: 03 Jun 2007 Posts: 24 $poons: 1.80

It's all very well having digital downloads and large hdds but what about backups? How often does the average home user backup their digital photos, their home movies etc, and to what medium? Do digital content providers guarantee that anything you have purchased will be available for re-download in case your hdd fails?

If I purchase PS3 Warhawk on blu-ray and can sell it on or exchange it when I'm finished. I do not have that opportunity with digital downloads.

I agree that digital downloads are an important distribution mechanism... but the practicalities infer that it is not yet a replacement for physical storage such as blu-rays IMHO.

AussieXboxFreak · Status: Offline Joined: 18 Mar 2007 Posts: 22 $poons: 0.20

its still going to be very many years before games take up 50GB of data. Probly not until next gen when 1080p is standard res for games. but this gen we wont get there because very few developers will want to spend the time and money to create a game so huge to fill 50GB.

But i also reackon digital distribution will be coming along pretty soon and fast. Ive been blessed with high speed cable and large data allowance for many years, but i agree all current isp plans are pathetic in aust. God knows what will happen to net prices when this national cable network starts happening.

Microsoft are already pushing digital downloads more and more. i think they will have to option of downloading new release 360 games to your hdd before this cycle is out, all new releases. Wether sony chooses to do the same after investing so much money into blu ray is yet to be seen.

After downloading my first HD movie (4GB for 720p) its definately the way forwward for me, you can find 1080p for between 6-8gb wich for me is 4 movies a month or more, and i only buy a dvd every once in a while so digital looks good.

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killer1500 · Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 10:22 am�� Post subject:

Well I recently brought the first chapter of Blood Siren, and I can tell you now I was not happy with the size of the first chapter.

I think it was about 3 gig in total, and it was divided into 3 downloads. I have a decent download limit of 30 gig a month through TPG for about 50 bucks, but thats a premium heavy plan. I doubt most people in Australia have decent download limits.

Theres no point in Sony even bothering to release anything here digital, and I can see why both Sony and Microsoft will probably never release a download movie service. (Unless someone partners with Bigbond movies and make it so it doesn't count towards your metered downloads).

It sounds like the US is going extremely backwards at the moment too, as more ISP's are introducing limits similar to what we have here in Australia, it will be interesting too see how that affects things too, it is the biggest gaming market after all.
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LordPaludis · Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 11:29 am�� Post subject:

I have my doubts as to whether digital distribution will even come in in the next 10 years. If we were still on DVD's it might be feasible now, but we have moved to Blu-Ray which is pretty much impossible to download on most connections because it is so huge. And after Blu-Ray there will be an even bigger format, by that time internet connections may be capable of downloading Blu-Ray, but then they won't be able to download the new format! I see this cycle continuing until internet connections are so fast that it doesn't matter anymore.

It's kind of like how laptop battery life never seems to improve, because while the battery technology is constantly improving, so the other technology inside the laptop becomes ever more power hungry.
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ittekimasu · Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 11:33 am�� Post subject:

I can see digital downloads starting to take effect, but instead of being able to download high resolution games that would've been put on blu-ray we would be instead downloading dvd quality content, whether this would be a counterpart for the psn/xbl games they've got currently avaliable.

But blu-ray will still have a big part in this generation (and probably the next) using this to ship the more higher resolution items while the lesser quality can be downloaded
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Skiller · Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 11:55 am�� Post subject:

Fetidchimp · Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 12:36 pm�� Post subject:

....didnt philips bust out a 500gb Blu Ray disc last week?

EDit : my mistake, it was pioneer a few weeks ago

Skiller · Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 1:42 pm�� Post subject:

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Buttmouth · Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 3:26 pm�� Post subject:

Think about how long we've all had our SD televisions for. If we magically transferred all of our massive DVD collections into the HD realm (1080p 192kHz uncompressed) as digital files - none of us would have enough HDD storage to support it. We need the optical disc - [or streaming or a timed license or something stupid]

If we suddenly only had the option of Digi Distro - we'd have to go back to SD (much like we mostly download songs as mp3s), everyone would need super fast internet and massive hard drives. It's not really fathomable at this point.

But just look how easy it is to say that Blu Ray is already on the out.

If we're in the HD era, then why would we want to go backwards and display YouTube quality streaming on our plazmaz.
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Benno · Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 3:50 pm�� Post subject:

Buttmouth · Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 4:00 pm�� Post subject:

^ I'm saying CDs are gonna be less shiny, similar in roundness* and about 15,000x more awesome than before.

*In a happy way... its just a joke, stop with the negs already.
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Smurf80 · Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 4:11 pm�� Post subject:

Well im still supporting it. Bought another movie today to add to my ever growing colection

Until we have a better internet infrastructure in the land down under I cant see optical discs going anywhere in a hurry. byt the time Digital downloads are doable in Aus many more people will have warmed to the idea.

Plus what will I fill my entertainment unit with?
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The Genius · Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 5:50 pm�� Post subject:

LOTR trilogy on one Blu-Ray disc coming later this year.

Now thats going to make me get into the Blu Ray movie thing.

So far I have owned a PS3 for a couple of years now and havent owned a Blu Ray yet,

Digital Distibution will kill your download limit. Imagine how big a movie or game file would be?

A 2 minute movie trailer is about 1GB for chrissake.

bradc1988 · Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 6:33 pm�� Post subject:

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