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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2003 9:04 am Post subject: New Sony handheld Reply with quote

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I'd be running a story on this, but due to the fact we havent been provided with all of the details of what Sony has in their booth, I thought I'd just list it in here for now.

Display: Widescreen (16:9) TFT LCD with backlight (480x272)
Disc: “UMD” 60mm optical secured ROM disc with cartridge (1.8GB)
Video CODEC: MPEG4
Graphics: 3D (polygons and NURBs)
Sound: PCM (built-in stereo speakers, stereo headphone output)
I/O: USB 2.0, Memory Stick slot
Battery: Rechargeable (lithium-ion)

Due to launch at the end of 2004.
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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2003 10:19 am Post subject: Reply with quote

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Should be interesting but if I were Sony, I'd be watching very closely on how Nokia's N-Gage performs against the Death Star aka Game Boy.

I do wish they would have quoted an estimated street price for it though, success will only come if they can match the price of the GBASP.
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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2003 4:45 pm Post subject: Reply with quote

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Sounds very expensive. I doubt that the portable console will have much on an impact on the whole market due to the fact that its not a stand alone machine, more likely a Mp3 player, dvd player, gaming console, vcr, television, telephone and probably includes Human Eradication Mode just like Chefs TV.

I am indeed very interested on seeing the development of the system.
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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2003 6:49 pm Post subject: Reply with quote

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Should be interesting but if I were Sony, I'd be watching very closely on how Nokia's N-Gage performs against the Death Star aka Game Boy.

I do wish they would have quoted an estimated street price for it though, success will only come if they can match the price of the GBASP.


Yeah, but the N-Gage sucks. Sad but true. icon_sad.gif

I think they could get away with marketing it at £150 or so. After all, Sony's NetMD has had real success and it sells for over £200, when a minidisc recorder can be bought for under £150. I have enough faith in Sony to believe that they can make this a success, and I really hope it happens, to be honest.
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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2003 9:21 pm Post subject: Reply with quote

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Sound like one of those "All-in-one" devices. icon_confused.gif And I'm not sure about the price either. Look at the N-gage - it's less powerful, but at US$300 a pop....

I like the disc they'll be using though. No worries about cartridge space.
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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2003 2:48 am Post subject: Reply with quote

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Arrrgh... Sony charges enough for MiniDisc players, don't even want to imagine how much this baby will cost... Would like to see what it pulls off, and what it looks like though...
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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2003 4:41 am Post subject: Reply with quote

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I look at it this way: Now we might see a handheld worth buying icon_shifty.gif
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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2003 6:14 am Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2003 11:12 am Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'm just wondering what the power consumption of a device like this will be. The GBA SP has no moving parts, no dedicated 3D chip and no backlit screen. It can run 17.5 hours on a 1000mAh cell. The PSP will uses a disc drive motor, it's more powerful processing will draw more current and the backlit screen will reduce battery life as well. I'm not sure of what battery technology will be available by year's end 2004 so it's too early to pass judgement. It also depends on how much battery life people care about.
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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2003 9:48 pm Post subject: Reply with quote

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I look at it this way: Now we might see a handheld worth buying icon_shifty.gif

*cough*fanboy*cough* icon_whistle.gif

Will it be shown at E3?
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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2003 12:10 am Post subject: Reply with quote

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i can't see it being much of a sucess
unless they somehow are able to steal pokemon
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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2003 1:29 am Post subject: Reply with quote

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The GBA SP has no moving parts, no dedicated 3D chip and no backlit screen.


HAve you ever looked at a GBA SP? It DOES have a backlight, thats what made it better over the previous version of the GBA icon_razz.gif
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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2003 2:03 am Post subject: Reply with quote

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i can't see it being much of a sucess
unless they somehow are able to steal pokemon


They don't need to. PSX 3D will look a hell of a lot better on the smaller screen.

I expect it to launch with Final Fantasy.
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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2003 2:15 am Post subject: Reply with quote

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I have a feeling that the only title it will steal from GBA is "Port Machine"
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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2003 2:02 am Post subject: Reply with quote

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UltraGekko wrote:
The GBA SP has no moving parts, no dedicated 3D chip and no backlit screen.


HAve you ever looked at a GBA SP? It DOES have a backlight, thats what made it better over the previous version of the GBA icon_razz.gif


Excuse me? Have YOU ever looked at a GBA SP? The GBA SP uses the exact same screen from the GBA (ie. reflective TFT). The key word here is reflective. A reflective LCD does not allow light to pass through it. It only reflects light from the front. Hence it is physically impossible for the GBA SP to be backlit. The GBA SP is in actual fact frontlit. I'm assuming backlights consume more power than frontlights as they have to be bright enough to be able to pass through the LCD. Others here will vouch that the GBA SP does in fact have a frontlight rather than a backlight. So get your facts straight before you say anything. icon_razz.gif
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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2003 9:09 am Post subject: Reply with quote

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JSWY wrote:
UltraGekko wrote:
The GBA SP has no moving parts, no dedicated 3D chip and no backlit screen.


HAve you ever looked at a GBA SP? It DOES have a backlight, thats what made it better over the previous version of the GBA icon_razz.gif


Excuse me? Have YOU ever looked at a GBA SP? The GBA SP uses the exact same screen from the GBA (ie. reflective TFT). The key word here is reflective. A reflective LCD does not allow light to pass through it. It only reflects light from the front. Hence it is physically impossible for the GBA SP to be backlit. The GBA SP is in actual fact frontlit. I'm assuming backlights consume more power than frontlights as they have to be bright enough to be able to pass through the LCD. Others here will vouch that the GBA SP does in fact have a frontlight rather than a backlight. So get your facts straight before you say anything. icon_razz.gif


You're right about the SP being frontlit. Like the afterburner.

I actually just noticed it about the PSP though. I have absolutley no idea how Sony is going to get away with a backlight - it seems really stupid to me. But meh... I'm sure they know more about it than I do.

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I look at it this way: Now we might see a handheld worth buying icon_shifty.gif

*cough*fanboy*cough* icon_whistle.gif


*cough*facingreality*cough*

Only reason Nintendo isn't out of the hardware business yet, is the lack of competition in the handheld market. Now Sony is coming out with a promising opponent, and I fear for Ninty's life.
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PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2003 8:33 pm Post subject: Reply with quote

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I fear for Ninty's life.



No you don't. icon_razz.gif
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I dont think Nintendos life is threatened by that at all... the japanese could not just let go of nintendo.
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Only reason Nintendo isn't out of the hardware business yet, is the lack of competition in the handheld market


Pure fiction.

Research your facts before you open your trap - or you'll be updating release dates from now on icon_razz.gif
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Pure fiction.

Research your facts before you open your trap - or you'll be updating release dates from now on icon_razz.gif


What facts?

Besides, you can't say it's *not* true. icon_shifty.gif
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Nintendo hasn't made a loss on its home console lines that I can remember, not to mention the fact the Gameboy market (software wise) didn't really explode for Nintendo until the release of the first Pokemon games in late 1995 - that's 6 years after it was released.
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Nintendo hasn't made a loss on its home console lines that I can remember, not to mention the fact the Gameboy market (software wise) didn't really explode for Nintendo until the release of the first Pokemon games in late 1995 - that's 6 years after it was released.


Yeah but that's about the time they started to need the income. Nintendo makes loads on the GB market. You can't deny that. If that market share is taken away, Nintendo are going to have a much smaller income. I see this going the way of the N64 once again unless Nintendo do something to fight them back. Cause I don't want 3D games using discs, it is impratical, I like 2D. Whilst every time I see an awesome looking 3D engine on the GBA I think awesome, doesn't mean that I want to play games using it.

I hope the PSP fails, not only because it is ripping off Jasc's Paintshop Pro's short hand name, but also because it is impractical.
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