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Daniel Golding
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 Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 3:24 pm Post subject: 'Videogames in fight for legitimacy', says Crago |
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| 'Videogames in fight for legitimacy', says Crago by Daniel |  | | PALGN News: In an exclusive interview with PALGN. | | [View Article] |
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| Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 4:23 pm Post subject: |
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Looking forward to the podcast. I caught the ABC Q&A and was shocked to find that the panel knew very little about the rating system, and worse still, made up answers on the spot. The "Avatar" line would be hysterical if these people weren't elected to represent out interests!
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Yes but the guy doing all the asking/defending was god awful at arguing the case.
As a matter of fact I thought the moderator had the best handle on the whole debate.
Look politicians only hear noise and when parents are yelling about one thing but gamers want another its parents that get them voted not gamers. So until gamers vote politicians in expect every other minority group to be ahead of us. What will likely happen over time (as is already the case) the gaming generation is getting older and hopefully will than influence politicians (or actually be politicians  ).
Now I'm not saying we don't try but its going to take a very concerted effort of all gamers to get the message across. Sooner or later the message will be heard. That is video games is an art form and that people have varying degrees of tastes whether its the cutesy Nintendogs through to Fallout 3.
What really pisses me off is the inconsistency whereas Bioshock gets over the line but Fallout 3 is banned. Yes, I've read the reasoning but its very subjective and seems to be that its a liberal interpretation. An R rating essentially fixes that issue. Mind you that presents a whole slew of issues for publishers getting this sold in the major retail outlets.
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| Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 6:26 pm Post subject: |
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But apparently politicians also don't read mail considering the replies many of us got. Damn you tabloids!
| realitybites wrote: | | Look politicians only hear noise and when parents are yelling about one thing but gamers want another its parents that get them voted not gamers. So until gamers vote politicians in expect every other minority group to be ahead of us. What will likely happen over time (as is already the case) the gaming generation is getting older and hopefully will than influence politicians (or actually be politicians ). |
They play the field, it's ignorant to say they listen to a specific public demographic more so than the various institutions, I speak of course of business. Yes they inherently require the votes of "parents" as you're using the term but really they have to promise very little and deliver very little to said people because the individual is not going to matter, nor is the niche group, but to ignore them completely would to admit to the public your hand where they purposely keep you in the dark so the collective does not think beyond what's "acceptable".
It's not about hearing one group over the other, it's about the bigger picture, take away what gamers are asking for from other mediums and society would degenerate into riots against the establishment. Just what are the consequences then for said government?
they'd get voted out probably sure, they'd still get their large paychecks, they'd still get their bonuses and super, the next candidate will ride a wave and inevitably other areas will then suffer. The system is sick, the individuals are merely using the sickness.
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I'm starting to wonder whether we should throw every Australian politician into one room with a couple of consoles and teach them the ins and outs. Until they understand the meaning of the words 'video' and 'game', they will never treat the industry with any level of fairness.
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^I'm afraid it's really a matter of generations. Same as the old govt's never trusted computers, it all changes once the gaming generation gets into politics. Which is happening as we speak - that's why the issues are at least being raised.
Yes, it's terribly slow and horribly factless. But getting the government to change it's stance is like trying to walk a donkey backwards down a spiral staircase. Terry Pratchett fans will know what I mean.
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I have to agree with Lord Haart here. Think about how many years you have enjoyed gaming and appreciated the passtime. Now, get that number, times it by 3 or 4, and you have the amount of years the current politicians have been treating electronics with suspicion. It will take more than a few pretty words to change their minds, as they have had gaming stereotypes and media misinformation jammed down their throat for 10-20 years and that's hard to reverse.
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@ Lord Haart and Sinthesys..
That does make sense, however how is it that Australia is the only western country in the world to treat video games this way? The same stereotypes exist everywhere else and the gamers are around the same ages world wide so it makes no sense to say that the previous generations can't understand it. They have in almost every decent country bar ours.
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