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Frozencry
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| Sony to charge for PlayStation Network by Denny |  | | PALGN News: Sort of. | | [View Article] |
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| Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 12:25 am Post subject: |
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"Qrappy Qonfusing Qliched Brand Names 101" by Sony.
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| Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 12:29 am Post subject: |
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Screw the betas, make the service better. And as if Im going to pay for any online beta, beta=/=demo which imo should be free.
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| Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 12:37 am Post subject: |
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Don't get me wrong, something like this was bound to happen, but I believe that it is just to soon. Most people would agree that the Playstation Store doesn't have a great range of content on it at the moment and now Sony instead of focusing on increasing the stores content library are giving current owners the chance to pay now to get early access to content and Betas in the future, one being Little Big Planet and another one I can think of is Home (which early owners of the console were promised access to the Beta many years ago, would they have to pay now?). I don't know think there will be much benefit for those who decided to pay for this serivce, there is not enough content to justify it, and how much is it going to be anyway and what type of subsciption would it be (yearly, monthly?).
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| Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 1:10 am Post subject: |
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like what has been said in the sony forum think of it more as a digital magazine. like the ps mag with the disc on the front noone said there will be no demo's and no beta invitations outside of this. and the pricing is US $25 a year or $2.99 per episode or something along those lines but yeh u get extra content like game add-ons included and its optional its not like they are charging you to play online
also it does say on ps blog special access to demos, add-on content and special invitations to beta's. so beyond the regular stuff.
aswell as saying early access to content.
(sorry cant link or copy on ps3)
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It's the PS3 price all over again.People complained about the price of the PS3, they make gimped versions.People complained about lack of content, they charge us.
I can't decide if I'm willing to pay or not.I think seeing as we will still get free online play I will keep my money.
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| Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 2:33 am Post subject: . |
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For us it will be up on the 6th, since the U.S is behind us. It's still Wednesday morning for them right now.
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| Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 8:37 am Post subject: |
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As long as online gaming is still free, then that is still PSN's main advantage over Xbox Live.
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| masimba wrote: | | As long as online gaming is still free, then that is still PSN's main advantage over Xbox Live. |
I think it's the only advantage it has at the moment. Hopefully they'll be fixing that soon.
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| Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 11:39 am Post subject: |
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Apparently you get a free copy of Calling All Cars if you subscribe, so at least you're saving a few dollars if you don't already have the game.
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| Quote: | | On the Official PlayStation Blog, Sony have announced Qore, a subscription service similar to that of Xbox 360's LIVE service, the difference being that it is optional. |
I didn't realise I didn't have a choice with Live.
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| masimba wrote: | | As long as online gaming is still free, then that is still PSN's main advantage over Xbox Live. |
Is it really? Making people pay to play online is a good deterrent against smacktards being incredibly obscene. It gives people an incentive to behave.
Anyway, this sounds to me like they are going for an xbox-esque service, with its advantage being that online gaming is free (which is great). Are they going to call the two levels of membership Silver and Gold?
As for Beta Access, it's not something that people really care about. Trust me, seeing a game in pre-release state, while being a source of minimal bragging rights to friends, isn't something you really want to do. Especially with games that have any sort of single player content. You want to experience that first hand when the game is fully polished. Betas are a way for companies to create fairly cheap if not free marketing by sending out unfinished copies of the game for people to demo.
Free online gaming is awesome, but if I have to pay $79.95 for 12 months of gaming access, for a service that is stable, full of content, and generally a full generation ahead of the Sony one, then so be it.
(you might be able to tell that I am an Xbox man, though I have tried to lay out a level argument)
EDIT: As for it being optional, I think what they mean, is that the subscription is optional, and even if you don't go for it, you still get your online gaming for free, which AFAIK, Xbox doesn't.
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I think that's a pretty crappy way to sub-title the article. This is clearly not intended as a Live-like service, it's really more like an online magazine, as has already been said. We need to remember that the reason for offerring an online service is primarily for one reason - to play actual freaking games online. Filter out all the video stuff PSN and LIVE offer, because it's the games that really matter.
I have no problem with this service, because I won't buy it, and I'll still get the same services that I cared about before. For someone who plays maybe 2 hours of Pro Evo a week, I'd never ever ever play online if I had to pay a subscription for it. But, since I don't with PSN, I sometimes give it a bash and have a ball. $80 for 12 months is an absolute rip-job; it's as much as I spend in the same period on actual software.
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i think alot of you guys are missing the point they arent charging you for the psn, as in we still get everything we get now so demos video, online and all that jazz free, but we get the option of paying a bit extra for some other content that we wouldnt otherwise get. its not really anything like xbox live. its just once again like the ps mag digitall
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| kingpeck wrote: | | masimba wrote: | | As long as online gaming is still free, then that is still PSN's main advantage over Xbox Live. |
Is it really? Making people pay to play online is a good deterrent against smacktards being incredibly obscene. It gives people an incentive to behave. |
No it doesn't. It would be great if it did, but it doesn't.
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| The Brett wrote: | I think that's a pretty crappy way to sub-title the article. This is clearly not intended as a Live-like service, it's really more like an online magazine, as has already been said. We need to remember that the reason for offerring an online service is primarily for one reason - to play actual freaking games online. Filter out all the video stuff PSN and LIVE offer, because it's the games that really matter.
I have no problem with this service, because I won't buy it, and I'll still get the same services that I cared about before. For someone who plays maybe 2 hours of Pro Evo a week, I'd never ever ever play online if I had to pay a subscription for it. But, since I don't with PSN, I sometimes give it a bash and have a ball. $80 for 12 months is an absolute rip-job; it's as much as I spend in the same period on actual software. |
I think that the priorities for the online service definition are changing. With more and more content being delivered via Xbox Live and the Playstation Network like videos and demos and other content, very soon, the priority will shift from being a game serving service, to a content delivery system.
As for the cost of Xbox Live, I guess it comes down to how many and how much games you play. I play games alot. I spend a fair amount of money on games, games systems, and other related things. So the difference between a person like me and one that spends 80$ over a year is a fair margin. I say at a guess that I spend about 600-700$ on gaming a year, maybe more depending on the quality of the year. So I guess when it comes down to it, it's all about the system you choose to buy, PS3 or X360 as to which service you prefer. So although Free online gaming would be a plus, I'll take what I can get.
EDIT: As for being a deterrent, it might not be a huge success, but there are rules in place to ensure that if someone is really breaking the rules and other things, they can be given penalties that mean more than something that is free.
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| Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 2:27 am Post subject: |
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LIVE is also optional...
The difference is in what you get (or don't get) for your money (or for not subscribing). Therefore the success of this venture relies heavily on the price.
Will be interesting to do the stats on how many xbox fanbois are teasing Sony fanbois for calling Microsoft the copycats...
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