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i think clubs are really boring, seriously. i've been to a number only b/c of birthdays and things. and yes, the music is generally good, but it's not really worth going to unless you're with a group of friends, and yes, lots of sleazy guys around (not stereotyping guys that go to clubs here, don't get me wrong).
i have a short attention span, and so naturally i get bored very quickly at clubs as there is nothing really going on, just the same thing... for hours... i'd rather spend that time training at a dance studio.... oh yea, that reminds me, there are soooooo many people out there who think they are the best just b/c they know a few simple dance moves. i say; get over yourselves.
god, that was good to get out ^___^
as for nights were the club is generally for a certain group of people, nothing much can be said, i mean, i see no point for such nights, wouldn't it be more fun if there were a diverse number of people??? but yea, whatever floats your boat i guess
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| Crestfallen wrote: | | freswood wrote: | | *snip* The main thing that bothers me about clubs is the drink prices - $8 for a freakin shot of tequila??? *snip* |
The way to do it is to get mashed on the trip in. Down 8 Cruisers (or something equally fruity) within an hour of getting to the door and you'll be well primed. |
You have to be careful though, at some places if they notice your one bit tipsy or smell of booze there likely to not let you in. Sucks but I usually pay for drinks while I'm in there which really does drain the cash.. I remember when I first started going clubbing I was looking for plastic flasks 
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| EatChildren wrote: | Nope. I hate clubs. I severely dislike club music, and I really don’t like the atmosphere of “loud thumping music unable to talk to anyone”.
That’s just my taste though. I much prefer a nice pub, a few mates, chatting over pool and brews with the occasional live band and trivia night. |
this is me - although i don't mind dance/electronic/whateverthekidsarecallingitthesedays music - but i too, am not a clubber.
i hate the whole atmosphere of clubs, i mean, it's all well and good saying "It's who you go with", but what's the point if you can't hear what anyone is saying, and having to resort to rudimentary sign-language to ask if someone wants a drink, or to tell them you're going to the loo, or whatever.
i'm also not a huge fan of feeling like a sardine because the place is so over-crowded.
i'd much rather goto a pub and play pool or shoot darts or something. sure, they can get loud and overcrowded too, but you can generally carry on a conversation with someone without having to resort to speaking an inch from their ear.
that said, i won't (often) refuse to go out simply because the venue is the wrong type of "ub" (i have on occasion, if i just really don't feel like it, but not often), but if it comes down to my vote as to where we go, it's pub everytime.
(i do realise that being from Perth, i also don't have to suffer being over-exposed to pokie machines in our pubs, so perhaps the pubs here offer a more relaxing atmosphere - i'm not really a fan of "The Casino" as a place to go either.)
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I don't mind it now and then. It's only fun if it's going to be a big night, and you have to be fair pissed and prepared to let you inhibitions/self-consciousness go and have a dance. If you're going clubbing and think you can be uptight about it then you aren't going to have fun.
I did a bit of clubbing when I was in Europe over summer and clubs there are on a whole other level. Australian clubs just don't compare in any way to the scale or intensity of things over there. One of the best clubs I went to in Vienna played all sorts of different music during the week too. London Calling on Wednesday nights (brit-pop and indie music night) was great fun.
But as I said, it's only fun if you're willing to make it a big night. The majority of the time I'd rather go and have a drink at the local pub with my mates, have a crack at the trivia (I <3 trivia) and often win the bar vouchers. One of the 2 locals we have is tiny so we usually dominate the trivia if we get a decent group of us there. It's pretty comfortable too when you know a lot of the bar staff and managers there.
The last year though has been overwhelmed by 21sts on Saturday nights. Free booze every weekend at a bar or someone's house >>>>>>> clubs, pubs and anything in between.
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brit pop at a club? i cant really imagine oasis while clubbing but whatever ill go with that 
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| Blink wrote: | | brit pop at a club? i cant really imagine oasis while clubbing but whatever ill go with that |
The only clubbing I'd do is hitting you over the head to make you stop posting without thinking 
As for night clubbing, I did go when I was younger but really I don't see the point anymore. Wow go to a place where the music is loud, you can't talk to people without having to shout and you can't move for fear of someone bumping into you and then trying to cause a commotion as a result.
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Fine then Guys. Ill take a 3 day official hiatus ( no posting for 3 days ) and hopefully after that all the hate will be gone
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| ObsoletE wrote: | | i hate the whole atmosphere of clubs, i mean, it's all well and good saying "It's who you go with", but what's the point if you can't hear what anyone is saying, and having to resort to rudimentary sign-language to ask if someone wants a drink, or to tell them you're going to the loo, or whatever. |
Exaggerating just a little here Mike. It's really not that bad. Sometimes you might have to ask someone to repeat themselves, but that's happened to me at bars/pubs while bands have been playing too.
Again, it is who you go with and I'm offended that you used that point of mine to start your biased rant. 
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People seem to have quite a few unfounded preconceptions of clubs. I can run off a list of venues in Melbourne that have some form of outdoor, lounge, bar or partially segregated section for those who wish to chat. QBH, Eve, Room, Alumbra, Eurotrash, Bond Lounge, Evo, Baroq etc etc.
You can't stand in the dance floor and expect to have a d&m or make conversation with new people. Clubs are a 'party' atmosphere moreso than anywhere else.
And c'mon, strong bonds between mates are made over terrible dancing while incredibly smashed.
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| Crestfallen wrote: | | And c'mon, strong bonds between mates are made over terrible dancing while incredibly smashed. |
Nothing wrong with an arse grope between mates 
Oh, I should note that Tina Turner's Simply the Best is the most amazing song to dance to with 10 of your mates when you're all absolutely blind. That song brings back incredible memories (albeit hazy ones).
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| theory wrote: | | ObsoletE wrote: | | i hate the whole atmosphere of clubs, i mean, it's all well and good saying "It's who you go with", but what's the point if you can't hear what anyone is saying, and having to resort to rudimentary sign-language to ask if someone wants a drink, or to tell them you're going to the loo, or whatever. |
Exaggerating just a little here Mike. It's really not that bad. Sometimes you might have to ask someone to repeat themselves, but that's happened to me at bars/pubs while bands have been playing too.
Again, it is who you go with and I'm offended that you used that point of mine to start your biased rant. |
It really is that bad here.
again, i suppose it might be a Perth thing, but seriously over here they play (or played, thinking back, i don't think i've been clubbing for nigh on 2 years - i guess the people who did used to enjoy it have outgrown it, or something) the music so loud that this is what it's like. there are a few occasions where i've literally resorted to writing an order down so the wait-staff actually get what i want.
(there are a couple of places that have outdoor balconies, where you can still hear the music, but through the walls, so conversation can take place, but since this is so much like a pub atmosphere, what's the point?)
and granted, if you goto a live act venue, you might have similar issues, but (in my experience) these places tend to have dedicated live music areas, rather than it being piped throughout the entire venue.
i guess you are right, since i'd probably never go clubbing if it weren't for the people i was going with, but i'd still prefer a pub booth somewhere.
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i'm disregarding your opinion because it's full of your personal bias.
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| Crestfallen wrote: | | People seem to have quite a few unfounded preconceptions of clubs. I can run off a list of venues in Melbourne that have some form of outdoor, lounge, bar or partially segregated section for those who wish to chat. QBH, Eve, Room, Alumbra, Eurotrash, Bond Lounge, Evo, Baroq etc etc. |
see, i'd like Clubs more if they were like that, but here they basically seem to go for the "NOISE EVERYWHERE!" approach, which even if the club is segregated into sections, they each contain their own set of music and it's all just as loud as the previous room. the only places where the sound lets up, are the toilets, and the other reason for going clubbing is somewhat jeopordised by spending the night in there (well, unless you play for the other team i suppose.)
some clubs here do have balcony areas without speakers, but what's the point of going to a club if you are going to spend the night outside?
(btw: i'm not saying that i don't have a good time when i go clubbing, if it were clubbing we were going, i'd make the most of it, just that if it were up to me, if i had the deciding vote, i'd choose a pub everytime, and the above are my reasons.)
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The thing I like about the local club I go to is that I bump into heaps of people that I know. While it's mainly about getting together with my close mates, we can catch up with other people as well.
@Spanca
"Sexy Back" is the one that brings back memories for me. It always seems to be playing when I'm pissed at 21sts, clubs, or schoolies. Good times XD
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I pretty much went through my full-on clubbing stage when I hit 18. Every weekend out, doing things I now regret with people I now don't talk to. I'm thankful for the experience though, it was all good fun at the time.
Nowadays I'll go out 'clubbing' with workmates, but its much more casual. We'll just sit around and drink and do about of a 'jig' when we're drunk enough.
Can't complain!
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| theory wrote: | | Again, it is who you go with and I'm offended that you used that point of mine to start your biased rant. |
I find it odd that you cannot fathom its not just “who you go with”. That’s like saying all live music is good. I’m not going to pay ~$70 a ticket for a band I hate, despite loving live music, even if I’m going with my best mates.
The same thing applies to clubs. It doesn’t matter who you go with. If you don’t like the music, atmosphere, and feel then what’s the point? Going for the sake of going? Going just so you can tell people you go lots of places?
Every single little thing I find enjoyment in when at a club I can also find at a pub, with usually more enjoyment and in larger quantities.
Some of us simply don’t like clubs and for very good reasons. Do you hang out at brothels?
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| EatChildren wrote: | | Do you hang out at brothels? |
Depends who I go with.
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| Toastfarmer wrote: | | The Valley in Brisbane is a sleazy as hell sort of area (though pretty cool sometimes too) but judging on some of the 'clubbers' there it's a place I will remain keen to avoid. |
You're not wrong there, it's a real eye opener for me coming from the Gold Coast to see the different kinds of people in the valley each time I venture up, which is usually once a month.
'Clubbing' for me, is alot like going to see your favourite band for most of you, as it's the only chance for me to see my favourite artists. It isn't about 'catching up' with my mates, it's all about the music and meeting new people that share similar music tastes, and dancing alongside my close friends to our favourite tunes. Most of the catching up is done beforehand at a pub or lounge bar. Big nights are always instore as the first train back to the Gold Coast isn't until 5:30am.
However, clubbing in a general sense, (ie top 40/electro/rnb clubs) I wouldn't touch with a 10 foot pole, as most of people there base their night on getting absolutely shitfaced, picking up, and jumping around like lunatics to the club mix of Billy Jean (well, here on the Gold Coast at least).
Thats what pubs are for.  
| EatChildren wrote: | | Every single little thing I find enjoyment in when at a club I can also find at a pub, with usually more enjoyment and in larger quantities. |
Pretty much sums it up right there.
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I'm a fan of those "European indie clubs" that Spanca was talking about. They do actually exist in Melbourne, yet they are hard to find. It's really a culture based thing. not many people know about the stuff thats out there, if you do your reasearch, especially in melbourne then your bound to find your place and have a good time.
Keep in mind different venues run different events, one night at one venue isnt the same as the next night at the same venue. I've found that over the years I've changed my taste in music and the people i want to hang around. It used to be Metro on a Saturday, that turned into a (lets be honest) wog night (no offense)its just not my cup of tea. Then it was One love at prince - massive nights - internationals - then it went commercial. Over the past year my music taste matured and its now third class (prev. honkytonks) and fashion keyboard at escobar. A friends brother runs myplace at Room, I've been there a few times, its ok i have a good dance with all the people i know.
come to think of it, i good night out on the town only requires balance. when i think of a good night for me it involves variation in music, crowd, drinks and noise intensity. Mostly as time grows on during the night so should the music volume. e.g. my Friday night out: a stop off at Korova milk bar (clockwork orange drug den themed bar), a skip to fashion keyboard at escobar(casual Dj's playing what they want) and a jump to the misfit town of third class(club).
If you really accept and thrive in the culture that a club sells then you cant not have a good time. Heres a tip for all you first timers, if you find a place you really love - promote or make friends with people who promote(thats what i did) the result is free entry and free drinks. Its no wonder i love my Melbourne nightlife so much.
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| EatChildren wrote: | | theory wrote: | | Again, it is who you go with and I'm offended that you used that point of mine to start your biased rant. |
I find it odd that you cannot fathom its not just “who you go with”. That’s like saying all live music is good. I’m not going to pay ~$70 a ticket for a band I hate, despite loving live music, even if I’m going with my best mates.
The same thing applies to clubs. It doesn’t matter who you go with. If you don’t like the music, atmosphere, and feel then what’s the point? Going for the sake of going? Going just so you can tell people you go lots of places?
Every single little thing I find enjoyment in when at a club I can also find at a pub, with usually more enjoyment and in larger quantities.
Some of us simply don’t like clubs and for very good reasons. Do you hang out at brothels? |
Brothels? Not since I was 12.
I'm not saying I prefer clubs to anything else, I'm just saying that if you do need to go it's alright once in a while with a group of friends. I just think some of you are being a little closed-minded about it. If you like music at all there is a club out there that should appeal to you. I'm not saying go every week. I'm saying don't rule it out.
I'm glad you find more enjoyment at pubs. Good luck with that.
I personally get enjoyment from friends first, music second, other stuff after that. That said I'd rather go to a casual venue playing Hip Hop than some pretentious bullshit club where I have to dress a) like I'm going to work or b) in a style I completely hate dressing in. Sometimes I still do though.
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It’s not being closed minded at all, it’s simply an opinion. I have no problem with people who enjoy clubs. As I said, I have friends who enjoy clubs.
You just seem to be unable to understand that the atmosphere generated in a club is unique, much like any other location. For some people, like myself, the atmosphere of most if not all clubs is unfavorable.
It’s got nothing about “friends first” or “music first”, it’s the whole night’s package, and as I said all enjoyment I can get out of a club I can also get out of a pub, usually getting even more out of the latter.
It’s the same reason I assume you don’t hang out at brothels. Not your scene, right?
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I just wish Australia had a night life culture beyond 'get completely blind by 6pm, eat kebabs and punch someone in the cab line'. You know, just a little bit of class would be great. Imagine how great it would be if people could stay out after 1am without fear of being stabbed in the face and could just chill out and have a good time?
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As others have said, I find clubbing boring. The music's loud, nothing new happens, and I generally don't like the atmosphere as a whole.
I much prefer a nice quiet pub, people chatting amongst themselves, and the sounds of the pokie machine I'm on going "bing boom bing, da daaa RING RING RING" to signify I got the free games... I admit I like playing the pokies, but I never play more than $10-20 at a time/per week, so I keep my losses to a minimum. For me it's a night out, and because I don't drink anything other than 1 glass of Coke and 1 cup of free coffee/hot chocolate, you could say that I spend on gambling what others spend on drinking.
Anyway, another thing I hate about clubs is that I'm the kind of person who likes to sit back and relax. I just don't feel myself when everyone else is dancing around me and invading my "personal space".
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| mrcool37 wrote: | | However, clubbing in a general sense, (ie top 40/electro/rnb clubs) I wouldn't touch with a 10 foot pole, as most of people there base their night on getting absolutely s***, picking up, and jumping around like lunatics to the club mix of Billy Jean (well, here on the Gold Coast at least). |
this might be the other "problem" with my opinion on clubs versus some of you easterners, as what mrcool described is pretty much every club in Perth. there's no variety, yet inexplicably, we still get the cycles of what clubs are "in" and what aren't, even though they all played Ice Ice Baby ad nauseum. (yes, this is an exaggeration, but it was rare to go clubbing and not hear this at least once.)
there used to be 1 club that was more into "alternative" music - rock, metal, punk, general triple j (well, JJJ 10 years ago) stuff. i did like that club more than the others, but it still did the whole "music so loud your ears bleed" thing.
it was also nowhere near the general clubbing district of Perth (nor the public transport system), so it wasn't convenient to get to, unless you specifically had a designated driver.
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im not a clubber myself, i am too burnt out from it between the ages of 18 and 25. Friday and saturday night would be hard liquor drinking party crazy dance guy night and lets not forget the woment too. Going out now i generally get intimidated as i am unfamiliar with the scene now and would much prefer to go to a friends place and have quiet drinks and listen to my own choice of music.
I am all for a beer at the local every now and then which is more relaxing and friendlier environment. I find the club scene has also chnaged so much. In brisbane, fortitude valley was the worst place to go when i was 18, i used to wear (90s) skate clothes and go to the metal clubs and altenrative bars that had almost no lighting and a bunch of couches found on the side of the road as furniture, but the people were good, the alchohol was cheap and it was a blast. in the last 10 years, the valley has changed into the biggest pretentious hob nob area in the city and the old bar that played nirvana's in bloom followed by been caught stealing by porno for pyros now has hip lyricless dance music and even if you like it and have over $1000 in clothing on it depends if the bouncer likes you. Im not going to waste my time going to places like that where people judge you before you even get in let alone the people who frequent these places.
give me a carton of beer, 5 close friends, singstar and a bbq and the memories become more memorable and less expensive.
that being said if i was still single, alcohol, partying and the lure of the attractive opposite sex could change my mind.
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| Gizmocreative wrote: | | been caught stealing by porno for pyros |
Jane's Addiction.
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im so stupid, never was a perry farrell fan, and it goes to show how long since i even listened to that stuff. that song stands out because it was during a game of pool i was so drunk i attempted a jump shot from a snooker, made it and sunk two balls none of which was the white. aahhh the good old days, now where are my warm slippers and the paper?
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