Pokemon D/P Tournament ROUND 1

[Dare]

so.... Macka when is this tourney taking place?
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[Macka]

[Arnor]

hey just to actually explain what i was talkinh bout earlier i was refering moves that are specifically used to cause a stat effect eg (as in if they hit they cause an effect)

sleep powder
poison powder
thunder wave
hypnosis

(there are others i cant be bothered looking them all up)

does this clarify?

so using moves like ice beam and thunderbolt which have a slight chance of causing an effect would be legitimate

:0 does that seem fair?

so only u cant use thunder wave to para more than once but u can thunder wave switch out and sleep powder another poke?

i see that as fair...

[Infested Jibbs]

Look, lets go with official rules.

Sleep clause and freeze clause ONLY(paralyse doesn't count, it can POTENTIALLY cripple a pokemon but the keyword is POTENTIALLY.I've had a paralysed pokemon get through it's moves at least half a dozen times in a row before missing a turn).

Now, taking that into account, NO sleep or ice inducing moves are barred.This includes hypnosis, sleep powder and even immediates like spore(100% guaranteed sleep).I don't think there is a move that causes freezing without attacking as well.

The catch is that as soon as ONE of the opposing pokemon has been inflicted with sleep OR freeze, you can no longer sleep OR freeze another of the opposing pokemon until said pokemon has been fainted.

Now, accidentals can never be ruled out.Say if i spore your pikachu, you switch the now sleeping pika out for a fresh charmander with no status effect and then i use ice beam and then charmander is frozen.....well.......shit happens.I got lucky, you got very, very unlucky.

What i'm trying to say is that ATTACKING moves that have a secondary chance of inflicting either sleep or freeze as a status effect(like ice beam sometimes freezing and.......errr........is their a move that has sleep as a secondary chance effect???) are still allowed even AFTER an oppsoing poke has fallen to either sleep or freeze.

I think that is fairly clear.This is a big deal, if not, everyone would have a spiritomb or breloom on their team wiping out the other team of 6 in one fell sweep.(spiritomb almost never goes down in one hit, can sometimes survive two, as it is not weak to any move, and then can let off a hypnosis for an almost guaranteed sleep.While breloom can spore, then focus punch to its hearts content).

So thats it.

Only FREEZE and SLEEP clause are in effect, para, confusion, poison, all that other crap is ok to spam.You can thunderwave the entire opposing team of 6 if you so wish, but it will be done to your detriment, as i said before, paralysing is a gamble and NOT a guaranteed checkmate like sleep or freeze.
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[Hyperworm]

Agreed with the talk about only Sleep and Freeze being disallowed, Jibbs (though one could argue back against Paralysis: "but it does have a guaranteed cripple - the drop in speed" but to that I say we're only limiting the absolute worst scenario, widespread total immobilization. For the rest, use strategy.)...
but

1. the combination of Sleep+Freeze is allowed by both our rules ("You can sleep one pokemon and freeze another") and the official rules in Stadium 2 (OK, so I haven't seen any other official rules since then ).
2. if it's OK to inflict Freeze as a side effect, the Freeze part of the clause is meaningless, because AFAIK there's no move that freezes 100% of the time - Freeze is always inflicted as a side effect.

Edit: My solution is to completely bar multiple Sleep or Freezes (but not the use of Freeze-causing moves like Ice Beam when Pokémon are frozen), and if they do occur, the opponent is entitled to a rematch at the moment of it happening. If they continue battling they void their right to a rematch.
Edit2: And if it happens a second match in a row the opponent is additionally entitled to force a forfeit on the other player, so this doesn't go on forever
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[Macka]

Yep, I agree on the Sleep, Freeze and Parra discussion. I'm going with Jibbs and banning the use of moves that only inflict either Freeze or Sleep on more than one pokemon. (Unless the frozen/asleep) pokemon either wakes up or faints).

Paralysis is OK, as is posion, confusion, attraction and burning, you can use that to your hearts content. (But it is a bit cheap).
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[Qbert]

I only read this thread today when Macka PM'd me as I've been on holidays and then sick once I got back. Anyway, I'd be interested to fill up the numbers.
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[M@TT_K]

Oh no! 16th! I'll make it . It may not be my best team though. O.o
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[mcerto]

dont worry, im not even training anything, ill just be using my best that ive already got
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[Macka]

I'm not sure what we are going to do with the current numbers for the tournament. Ideally, we could get six more people and have in perfect like last time, but otherwise, someone gets a by or we could have a points based tourney this time.

Because of this, I am pushing the starting date back to the 23rd Februrary.
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[Macka]

Okay, I really dont want this to die again, please bear with me as i try to find an extra six people. If you know anyone, or can persuade anyone, please do.
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[Dare]

Okay only if we get 6 more peeps will this go forward...

One question though, with the species clause, does that limit 'types' (like fire, water etc.)? Like is it ok if you have 2 pokemon with the same type in your group of 6?
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[Macka]

[killerpapag]

i'll play if its still on even though today is the 16th, and i know of another person on the site who would probably play
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[RAMPAGE]

I just got this game and all the rules are confussing me. But if you still need more players im willing to enter:)

[Macka]

That's great! The only querry I have is how far are you into the game? As everyone else in the tournament has already finished, we obviously have a far greater selection of pokemon for our teams and fully evolve them.

If you have any questions about the rules, PM me and I'll explain it more thourougly.
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[killerpapag]

i'm not far but i do have some good pokemon that i can level up quickly
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[RAMPAGE]

[killerpapag]

hey if you want rampage i could trade you some level 50ish pokemon for some dodgy one that way you can have at least a semi decent team
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[mcerto]

will they "listen" to him in the battle?
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[RAMPAGE]

[killerpapag]

kk thats cool, and mcerto i think they do listen to you in battles over the internet just not in the game
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[plazma]

[Dare]

23rd is a Saturday

So the tourney is still going ahead Macka??
Or are we still short a few?
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[welity]

hey guys, i might be able to join just wondering if my wireless still works. if you need more people after that my brother will play. if you need me to join pm me and ill check out my wireless.
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