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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 3:15 pm    Post subject: Which model ps3 and where to buy??? Reply with quote

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Hey guys, new to the forum. I'm thinking of buying a ps3, just wondering which model i should get and hoping if any1 know any current bargins, either online or retail (it doesn't matter which).
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 3:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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All Australian retail PS3's are the 40GB ones. 60GB are discontinued.

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I did a qucik search in eBay (for the 60GB) for you. The Buy It Now prices are killers. X_X

But if you don't mine the 40GB (and the removal of being able to play PS2 games) then please say so and we can work from there. Or if you don't mind having a non PAL PS3 also.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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yeah you only have the choice of a 40 gig model so if you have ps2 games i would keep that console. But i guess if you wanted more storage you could go online and try and import a 60 gig or even a 80 gig model. I'm pretty sure you can get the 80 gig model from America or Korea lucky bastards.
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thanks for help guys, well I'd rather have the playback capabilities and wouldn't mind importing either.

is it true that sony will update the 40gigs ps3 so that in the future will be able to play ps2 games?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 12:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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its not possible to update the gimped ps3 to play ps2 games. so no.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 9:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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thanks for help guys, well I'd rather have the playback capabilities and wouldn't mind importing either.

is it true that sony will update the 40gigs ps3 so that in the future will be able to play ps2 games?


I wouldn't bother even trying to import a 60GB, the prices would be insane and some reports have said that they have only received a 40GB version with a bigger HDD installed to mislead those who are looking for PS2 playback.

Your better off purchasing a 40GB PS3 and if you really do wan't to play PS2 games, either keep the PS2 you've got (if you do have one) or just purchase one new, since the added price will be cheaper to purchase a 60GB PS3 (genuine) combine.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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No doubt we will eventually get the 80G PS3. Rumours are circulating that they will retail for $899.

But are they backwards compatible?
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Xephon wrote:
thanks for help guys, well I'd rather have the playback capabilities and wouldn't mind importing either.

is it true that sony will update the 40gigs ps3 so that in the future will be able to play ps2 games?


I wouldn't bother even trying to import a 60GB, the prices would be insane and some reports have said that they have only received a 40GB version with a bigger HDD installed to mislead those who are looking for PS2 playback.

Your better off purchasing a 40GB PS3 and if you really do wan't to play PS2 games, either keep the PS2 you've got (if you do have one) or just purchase one new, since the added price will be cheaper to purchase a 60GB PS3 (genuine) combine.


hmm, I sort of doubt that, considering I bought a 60gb one off ebay with 2 sixaxis controls and 2 games (resistance and Marvel:UA) and component cable for 500 AUD (including shipping). it's been great, and even better since importing blu rays and games is cheaper, and blurays come out in the US before here too.
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No doubt we will eventually get the 80G PS3. Rumours are circulating that they will retail for $899.

But are they backwards compatible?


That's a very good question. I wonder if Sony plan to drop support from the PS2 completely or have it as a feature in the top models.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 10:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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^i'd highly doubt (but wouldn't bet my life on it) that sony would charge and extra $200 for an extra 40gb

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hmm, I sort of doubt that, considering I bought a 60gb one off ebay with 2 sixaxis controls and 2 games (resistance and Marvel:UA) and component cable for 500 AUD (including shipping). it's been great, and even better since importing blu rays and games is cheaper, and blurays come out in the US before here too.


was that for a US console or PAL console?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 11:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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No doubt we will eventually get the 80G PS3. Rumours are circulating that they will retail for $899.

But are they backwards compatible?

Yes via emulation.
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Jim Dash wrote:
No doubt we will eventually get the 80G PS3. Rumours are circulating that they will retail for $899.

But are they backwards compatible?

Yes via emulation.


That's nonsense. The new PS3's are only BC compatible for PSone titles. The Ps2 emotion engine chip is removed and sony has NO intention to do emulation.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 5:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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THEMAN wrote:
BurnZ wrote:
Jim Dash wrote:
No doubt we will eventually get the 80G PS3. Rumours are circulating that they will retail for $899.

But are they backwards compatible?

Yes via emulation.


That's nonsense. The new PS3's are only BC compatible for PSone titles. The Ps2 emotion engine chip is removed and sony has NO intention to do emulation.

Uhhh... the 60GB PAL PS3's run PS2 games via emulation...

Anyway, at least I bring proof of something rather then say it's nonsense. Cause Jimbo was talking about the 80GB.

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Enter a game title below to determine compatibility.
Tip: Search using complete word(s).


Platform: 20GB / 60GB PLAYSTATION®3 80GB PLAYSTATION®3

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its not emulation if the ps3 actually has emotion engine. It basically has hardware/chip to run PS2 games.

US only.
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So the Aussie 60G play PS2 games via emulation? No additional hardware required?

And 80G can play PS2 games eh? Thats great. I've been losing many a sale due to the lack of backwards compatibility.
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its not emulation if the ps3 actually has emotion engine. It basically has hardware/chip to run PS2 games.

US only.

You never said anything about the U.S PS3, nor was anyone but it would of been nice if you said you were earlier.

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So the Aussie 60G play PS2 games via emulation? No additional hardware required?

And 80G can play PS2 games eh? Thats great. I've been losing many a sale due to the lack of backwards compatibility.

Yup, PAL 60GB's play PS2 games via emulation. It does decrease the number of games that run well. As THEMAN said, the NTSC 20GB & 60GB PS3s have an Emotion Engine (chip) that allows them to run every PS2 game (NTSC only cause it's region locked) without any problems.
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I cant believe the demand for the 60GB models. I just sold mine on ebay for $940. More than I paid for it. I dont use backward compatibility.
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I wouldn't sell my 60g. I'm so happy I got it when I did. Best money I even spent. Now bring on the TV Tuner/Recorder and I'm more than set.
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I cant believe the demand for the 60GB models. I just sold mine on ebay for $940. More than I paid for it. I dont use backward compatibility.

I saw one on eBay a month or two ago which was bidded well over $1,500 and was still an active auction.

I mean, a USED Aussie PAL PS3 (60GB).
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bigger dont always mean better though does it?
i would prefer it if sony focus on making the current 40gb ps3 cheaper, to bring more people to our cause. i still cant afford the $650 for a new console. im not made of money, and considering the cheaper xbox360 and much cheaper wii, it seems imperative that sony make their console cheaper. lower production costs seem to be helping playstation too.
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bigger dont always mean better though does it?

In this specific case of the original 60gb model versus the newer 40gb model, it does. Even when you take into consideration that the Aus/Euro versions of the 60gb console were hobbled from the start (no hardware PS2 emulation) they're still by far the better piece of hardware.
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The introduction of the 40GB PS3 and the $300 price drop justified my purchase of a PS3, I don't have one just yet, I got $300 to go until I can pick one of these bad boys up.

also the 40GB has the newer revision 2 Cell Processors which I was waiting for, first generation PS3's had some problems, sure most people here have a 60GB one and it's working fine from day one, I meant a small batch of consoles from first gen which were plagued with problems. such as faulty Blu-Ray lasers & misaligned Blu-Ray motors, graphics problems & overheating CPU problems.
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also the 40GB has the newer revision 2 Cell Processors which I was waiting for, first generation PS3's had some problems, sure most people here have a 60GB one and it's working fine from day one, I meant a small batch of consoles from first gen which were plagued with problems. such as faulty Blu-Ray lasers & misaligned Blu-Ray motors, graphics problems & overheating CPU problems.

Interesting. From where are you sourcing this information?
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also the 40GB has the newer revision 2 Cell Processors which I was waiting for, first generation PS3's had some problems, sure most people here have a 60GB one and it's working fine from day one, I meant a small batch of consoles from first gen which were plagued with problems. such as faulty Blu-Ray lasers & misaligned Blu-Ray motors, graphics problems & overheating CPU problems.

Interesting. From where are you sourcing this information?


http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2007/10/31/40gb-ps3-65nm-cell-processor

apparently the 40GB PS3 uses 75watts less power, and since the the processor is more power efficient the console doesn't heat up as much, which means the fan runs quieter.

good news

look around the net there is more resources than you'll ever know, it's common knowledge as well, on a ratio between all three consoles the 360 has the most manufacturing problems, with the Wii in second place & the PS3 in last
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60gb ps3 cost $1000, compared to $650 40gb. 60gb may be better, but just because its better dont mean it will attract customers. thats what i meant by bigger dont mean better
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