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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 12:42 pm    Post subject: Kane & Lynch: Dead Men Review Reply with quote

Kane & Lynch: Dead Men Review by Anthony
PALGN Review: Dead or Alive?
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 12:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey why is Anthony fired? icon_razz.gif
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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^ +1'd because I was thinking the same thing when I saw the 6.5

It's a shame really. I was looking forward to K & L.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 2:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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^ +1'd because I was thinking the same thing when I saw the 6.5

It's a shame really. I was looking forward to K & L.


Agreed the trailers looked promising. Too many other games around at the moment to even consider trying this.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 2:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I actually love the game tbh. I had a great time with it but the story was only about 5 hours.. mind you i was playing on aspirin. But in co-op it would be a blast and the online multiplayer is really fun. Its a shame more people dont get this game as if you can look past the few flaws, you will have a great time with this game.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 2:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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yeah i thought this was going to be the beez, but all these scores are scaring me off......
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 4:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I actually love the game tbh. I had a great time with it but the story was only about 5 hours.. mind you i was playing on aspirin. But in co-op it would be a blast and the online multiplayer is really fun. Its a shame more people dont get this game as if you can look past the few flaws, you will have a great time with this game.

Exact same opinion here mate. Make sure you finish both endings rather than just escaping in the helicopter at the end like a pussy. icon_smile.gif Fragile Alliance is fun as hell. I also watched an interview with someone from IO Interactive who says future maps will be added via download later on.

I still think this game deserves at the very least a 7.5/10
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I think you guys are jumping the gun a bit, 6.5 is still a good score from us. Here's what it means from our scoring guidelines:
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6.5 – 7: Above average. Here we're getting into games that you may actually want to play even if they're not from your preferred genre. Games of these scores or above would be described as 'good' by most gamers. Most people should be able to enjoy this title to some degree if they like the gameplay type or property at all.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Is the occassional visitor going to read those? Most visitors will most likely just scroll to the bottom and say "OMFG!!!!!11, crap rating... game prolly sucks". icon_biggrin.gif I guess I'm just used to a 6.5 being a pretty bland score for a game when considering other sites and magazines.

I've never read the rating descriptions before, maybe because I'm blind and just yesterday the doctor diagnosed me with something called "stuipd".
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 5:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hey why is Anthony fired? icon_razz.gif


No, still here! icon_biggrin.gif

Hmm...should I + 1 or - 1? icon_razz.gif
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Any reason why you haven't mastered the covering technique?

"However, you can never really attach yourself to a cover object with any degree of ease – it will either take you a few goes to assume cover, or you will give up trying in frustration."

It really is easy for me, always get it on the first go. It's more of a camera problem rather than a position problem. As long as you go near the corner of something, just swing the camera around slightly and they'll hide behind the object. Works better than aimlessly trying to position yourself until it works.

Sorry for being a bit negative nancy on the subject but a lot of reviewers complain about it while it's never been an issue for me... except for maybe the first 30 mins I started playing the game before I figured it out.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 11:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Is the occassional visitor going to read those? Most visitors will most likely just scroll to the bottom and say "OMFG!!!!!11, crap rating... game prolly sucks".


If by 'occasional visitor' you mean a reader who has been conditioned by the video game media in general to believe anything under 8 a bad score. Remember, taking the film five-star rating into account, a 6 is a three star game. I don't know about you, but a three star film is something I'd go and see if I were anticipating it's release. The rating system should be intelligently used - there is no point at all in having a rating system out of ten if you have 8 different ratings of badness, but only 2 ways of differentiating a good, or even great game.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 7:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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By that reckoning, top gun is around a 2.5 star rated game icon_wink.gif

Not many games get below 5 so I'd say that is why people class 6.5 as a not so good score.
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Is the occassional visitor going to read those? Most visitors will most likely just scroll to the bottom and say "OMFG!!!!!11, crap rating... game prolly sucks".


If by 'occasional visitor' you mean a reader who has been conditioned by the video game media in general to believe anything under 8 a bad score. Remember, taking the film five-star rating into account, a 6 is a three star game. I don't know about you, but a three star film is something I'd go and see if I were anticipating it's release. The rating system should be intelligently used - there is no point at all in having a rating system out of ten if you have 8 different ratings of badness, but only 2 ways of differentiating a good, or even great game.


Granted, I agree with what you are saying in theory but look how many people have avoided this game because of these supposedly "decent" ratings. Hmmm, it's a shame because a lot of people could have enjoyed this game if they had only tried it out. There's plenty of people saying "look at the crap scores this game is getting" and such. I'm not saying PALGN's review is saying it's a bad game, I'm just saying that's what a lot of user comments have on other review sites for this game. I would never personally avoid a game from a 6.5/10 if I had an interest in it but I don't think you can deny that there's the usual bunch of people out there who just don't bother with games rated under something like a 7/10. I never used to bother with games under 7/10 like 10 years ago when I had my OAPSM subscription, heh.

See though, that's why this is the only gaming site I am registered at because people here seem to be a lot more in check. There aren't so many stupid people who just say stuff like this...
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Is the occassional visitor going to read those? Most visitors will most likely just scroll to the bottom and say "OMFG!!!!!11, crap rating... game prolly sucks".


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I would if it cost $109, thats what i'm saying, to much of a gamble for me and most sites agree, i'd look at it at like the $70 price range though.
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Yeah but I'm talking about just trying, not buying. Even though I bought my copy before the Australian version even came out for $70 AUD incl shipping. $109 is too much for pretty much anything as far as I'm concerned.

Nice Re-Animator quote, by the way.


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Mate i'm from Toowoomba originally also, not much else to do but watch horror films icon_smile.gif

Yeah EB prices suck in the main

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