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| Passa wrote: | | Aren't the Harry Potter films Warner Bros? |
Harry Potter series is some of the only Warner Bros films coming to both HD-DVD & BluRay, films like Batman probably won't see the light of day on BluRay, have no idea why.
I like the HD-DVD technology better, it's not bloated like BluRay
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| chriharr wrote: | | Passa wrote: | | Aren't the Harry Potter films Warner Bros? |
Harry Potter series is some of the only Warner Bros films coming to both HD-DVD & BluRay, films like Batman probably won't see the light of day on BluRay, have no idea why.
I like the HD-DVD technology better, it's not bloated like BluRay |
Thankyou heaps! Gotta love it now ^^
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Whatever format Star Wars comes to will be my choice. I am praying for Star Wars in Hi-Def..
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Agree with you there mate. But I have a feeling that George Lucas won’t want to real the movies in a HD format until there is a winner and has a large user base.
My choice out of Blu-ray and HD-DVD is HD-DVD even tho I have my PS3 as a Blu-ray player. Reasons being that all movies a region free and I am no longer a prisoner of delayed releases and ridiculous Australian mark ups and the cheaper price point for stand alone players.
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| Jim Dash wrote: | | Whatever format Star Wars comes to will be my choice. I am praying for Star Wars in Hi-Def.. |
Harry Potter
Star Wars
Lord Of The Rings
Pirates
Are the main series I am hoping for, Pirates I am lucky with^^
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| eckymosis wrote: | | Agree with you there mate. But I have a feeling that George Lucas won’t want to real the movies in a HD format until there is a winner and has a large user base. |
Doesn't he realise that if he picks a single format now to release sw on, that format would win by default?Only lord of the rings holds as much sway as the sw sixology(hexology......?).It would certainly be interesting if lucas chose sw to go with hddvd and moments later lord of ther rings appears as a bluray exclusive.It would be on like donkey kong.
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I can buy brand new HD-DVD's for $29.95 in AUS, BluRay discs cost me $44.95 +
and if I import HD-DVD discs they're even cheaper at $25 inc postage
HD-DVD is cheaper and therefore more video rental stores will adopt it over bluray which will eventually see HD-DVD take over.
although since sony are assholes with BluRay and will only release sony movies on BluRay, I can see sony movie studios the only ones to be stubborn and not give into dual formats in the long run.
DVD will be victorious for another 10 years by the looks of things.
HD-DVD will hopefully catch on, it's cheap, the discs load faster and the quality is the same as bluray at a much lower cost.
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^Blockbuster in the US (and the ones I know of in QLD, not sure about Australia wide) have chosen to back BluRay over HD-DVD as it was getting more sales.
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| Qbert wrote: | | ^Blockbuster in the US (and the ones I know of in QLD, not sure about Australia wide) have chosen to back BluRay over HD-DVD as it was getting more sales. |
apparently BluRay is only currently leading because of PS3 consoles which have the BluRay player built in.
according to some sources, they say more stand alone HD-DVD players have been sold than Stand alone BluRay players.
So Sony will fail again because they have marketed their whole strategy to a small video game crowd, well done sony but what about the rest of the world who will never be interested in buying a PS3.
Stand alone HD-DVD players are expected to retail for around $199.95 USD around XMAS time
so we might be able to buy a stand alone HD-DVD player for around $400 AUD or less.
that's very persuasive to XMAS buyers.
since HD-DVD players are region free, you could easily buy a U.S HD-DVD player and have it shipped here for less than $300 AUS, and don't worry because most HD-DVD players have a universal power supply, the only thing you'll need to swap is the AC cord.
ofcourse AUS DVD's probably won't play on it as it'll probably still incorporate the DVD region coding, but it's the High Def region free movies you want right?
Universal, Paramount are only selling their High Definition movies on HD-DVD, more movies that I like are on HD-DVD so that will be the decider for me.
My mate who runs a Video Ezy franchise, had told me that Video Ezy plan on backing the HD-DVD format because it's cheaper to replace, so far none of my local Video Ezy stores are selling or leasing any HD discs and video ezy are supposed to be rolling out the HD market by March 2008.
I have no idea if Video Ezy will stock BluRay, my guess is they will because it would be stupid not to, the PS3 crowd are worth the extra revenue aren't they?.
since it's a corporation they could change plans at anytime, this is just the insider information which I have been told, this is speculative until official announcements have been made.
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I'm not for or against HD-DVD or BluRay, I couldn't care less which wins personally, I'm just pointing out that just because more "stand alone" players have been sold doesn't mean that much. Of course people are going to buy PS3s over BluRay players when they are cheaper and both get the job done (and more in the PS3s case). Now if there were data to suggest people were buying their PS3s solely as a gaming machine, then you'd have a case. But as it stands, the BluRay player may have been the deciding factor in those PS3 purchases, we don't know.
If HD-DVD is that much cheaper, I guess I'd back that, but not having a decent TV or caring about High Def that much, I don't really mind because at least Blu Ray gives me a reason to splurge on a PS3. 
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Sony aren't marketing their whole strategy to a video game crowd. They developed a HD format with a high capacity storage medium. They aren't marketing it only to the video game crowd, they're getting Blu-ray players into people's homes via the PS3, therefore having a large portion of the market support Blu-Ray by default.
Large capacity discs is exactly what next-gen games need. 9G isn't going to cut it anymore.
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| Qbert wrote: | | ^Blockbuster in the US (and the ones I know of in QLD, not sure about Australia wide) have chosen to back BluRay over HD-DVD as it was getting more sales. |
The blockbuster I work at in NSW prefers Blu-Ray to.
However from one of the leading Blockbuster stores I must say Blu-Ray I swear hopefully wins. No-one else will probably know the troubles with scratched dvds our store has. And with Blu-Rays protective layer, will say goodbye to most of that.
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| chriharr wrote: | I can buy brand new HD-DVD's for $29.95 in AUS, BluRay discs cost me $44.95 +
and if I import HD-DVD discs they're even cheaper at $25 inc postage |
HD-DVDs for $29.95 in Aus? Where are you shopping, I've never seen them for that price (seriously, give me a source). And on the import front, the same goes for Blu-Rays, you can get them considerably cheaper from overseas. It is a downside that Blu-Ray is not entirely region free, but 80% of the currently released movies are region free.
You've also mentioned importing a HD-DVD player from the U.S. Now, that's all well and good, but I guess you haven't given though to the fact that people can also import Blu-Ray players (PS3s) as well, which simultaneously saves you money and beats the small amount of region locking on Blu-Ray at the same time. Take me for example, I imported my PS3 from the U.S, so not only did I save money on the console, but I also saved money on the Blu-Ray player which is part of the package. When you consider how much all the components in a PS3 are worth, that's one cheap Blu-Ray player.
Linking back to my first paragraph, regarding the price of Blu-Ray movies, $44.95 is the most I've seen Blu-Ray movies go on sale for, you make it sound like some kind of average price, you even put a +!  Seriously, Blu-rays are not as expensive as some would have you believe, for example Pirates of the Caribbean on Blu-Ray, which comes as a two disc set, can be bought for $37 at JB. Maybe it's just me, but I call that good value, and you can lower that price even further if you import.
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Personally I think that people will support Blu Ray in the long run, While HD DVD's are cheaper I haven't seen any advertising about them and what little coverage it gets on the news about this whole 'war' I doubt the general public are aware whats going on.
Sony have been smart to shove their advertising from TV ad's to Movie ad's and having it constantly displayed in stores, another thing I think which will affect the overall sales would be if more people start adopting the PS3 after the pricedrop, decent game releases it might put people off HD DVD due to already having a HD player.
But i'm sure i heard somewhere that HD DVD has superior sound compared to Blu Ray, but i'm not really all that great with the stats, more of a consumer p.o.v
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Sony CEO Howard Stringer spoke at a few days ago in an event in New York who seems a little pissed that Sony's format BluRay will never be the next format to over turn DVD and that all comes down to Warner Bros (some joint studio titles) Paramount & Universal signing exclusive deals with HD-DVD.
Sony CEO says he wishes he could travel back in time before the release of the HD disc formats and bring peace to the format war and share the HD market with competitors.
seems no one will ever agree, luckily the majority of movies I watch come from Universal, Paramount & Warner Bros so this isn't a huge issue to me, sure I'm pissed a little, but this is what the world is coming to people, companies are greedier than ever and want to control and own everything they can.
at least DVD won't die soon, I can't stand DVD quality much anymore, but I won't settle for anything less than it.
I pray the Hard Disk and the internet bring HD content straight to our homes via fast downloads.
I mean out of the 600 Digital Cinemas with 4K projectors in the world, movies are sent to Theatres on HDD's via physical delivery or downloaded straight to the Cinema server from the movie studio.
downloads are the future, this means simultaneous Cinema & Home Movie releases all around the world in the next 5 years (hopefully)
no more fucking delays, the world will unite.
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| ittekimasu wrote: | | Sony have been smart to shove their advertising from TV ad's to Movie ad's and having it constantly displayed in stores, another thing I think which will affect the overall sales would be if more people start adopting the PS3 after the pricedrop, decent game releases it might put people off HD DVD due to already having a HD player. |
Amazing thing is, despite all the advertising Sony have put into Blu-Ray. HD-DVD is still going toe-to-toe with it.
The war will go on for a long time  as the biggest player I see who can swing sides (Apple Inc.) actually has investments in both formats
Admeister: Pricing Sony products at JB isn't a "fair" comparison as JB actually gets commissions from Sony for selling their products  But meh, no point arguing over things such as this, just get the things for as cheap as you can.
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| nikack wrote: | | Admeister: Pricing Sony products at JB isn't a "fair" comparison as JB actually gets commissions from Sony for selling their products But meh, no point arguing over things such as this, just get the things for as cheap as you can. |
That's so true. They were happy to sell us 3 Bravias at 'cost price' as they were still making a fair chunk of money on the commission they got from Sony.
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| Spanca wrote: | | nikack wrote: | | Admeister: Pricing Sony products at JB isn't a "fair" comparison as JB actually gets commissions from Sony for selling their products But meh, no point arguing over things such as this, just get the things for as cheap as you can. |
That's so true. They were happy to sell us 3 Bravias at 'cost price' as they were still making a fair chunk of money on the commission they got from Sony. |
while true, who's actually losing in this case?
personally, i don't care if it's quality and cheap.
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I'm not sure what you're suggesting?
nikack was just pointing out that comparing prices at JB isn't really 'fair' or conclusive given that Sony appear to subsidise sales through those stores.
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i dunno, i don't know if i'm really suggesting anything.
i just meant that what's the issue with Sony subsidising prices if it means we pay less?
seems like it was brought up as a negative thing, and i fail to see how it is.
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Numbers speak louder than words.
Aus Sales data from SMH & GFk (to date)
- 2,241 stand-alone Blu-ray players have been sold in Australia to date, compared with 609 HD DVD players.
- 100,000 units of the PS3 vs. 2461 add-on HD DVD players for the Xbox 360.
- 102,000 Blu-ray movies have been sold to date, as against just under 18,000 HD DVD movies.
But it gets worse for HD-DVD ...
http://www.smh.com.au/news/technology/hd-dvd-told-youre-missing-the-boat/2007/12/04/1196530626138.html
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That's interesting Maikii, but a lot of HD-DVD owners like myself are probably ording their titles from overseas - generally cheaper, bigger range, and earlier release dates. It's a double edged sword though. If we don't buy them locally, then they won't sell them locally, but if they don't sell them locally, then we won't buy them locally. *sigh* I'll be quite now while I wait for my Star Trek HD set to arrive.
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"In an announcement made today, Sony said 40-inch LCD televisions connected to Blu-ray players and PS3s would be installed initially in close to 250 Video Ezy and Blockbuster stores across the country to promote the format."
Holy crap man I hope they put it in my blockbuster, our tvs suck. There like 10-15 years out man >>
This is a really strange format war, one format has the better sales while the other has the better range and backup  Long wait to find out who wins.
PS:The maker of this thread SMASHED, well some probably know, but hes actually me.
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| Sunrider wrote: | | That's interesting Maikii, but a lot of HD-DVD owners like myself are probably ording their titles from overseas |
Well HD-DVD is not fairing that well in the US (which I guess is where you're buying 'em) either , or europe ... and I doubt that 80k HD-DVD's have been imported ...
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