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David
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| Halo DS was actually in development? by David |  | | DS News: Never to be released. | | [View Article] |
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| Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 11:54 pm Post subject: |
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I don't think Microsoft knew about it in its initial development, I think that what Matt Ass said months ago when he mentioned it. It would have been interesting if it were released...
But I had to laugh at the last paragraph. You could start a mystery novel with those words, David, or a conspiracy documentary at least.
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| Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 11:57 pm Post subject: |
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Wow it actually looks really damn cool!!Someone could leak it onto the internet, you never know.
What a shame though it would have been awesome, although it could have been a mistake on Microsoft's part.
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| Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 12:04 am Post subject: |
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this has already had its little attempt at hijacking the halo 3 thread... so I'll just repost this over here.
Check out fanboys-online.com there is a little rant there, and it busts this myth right up. sorry to ruin the dreams of small children - fake viddy.
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If one of the biggest names in the games journalism industry has the time and motivation to sit around and make a Halo skin for GoldenEye DS to prove a point, it's a sad indictment indeed on games journalism.
Conversely, if it is true, and readers simply will not believe solid proof and instead resort to wild claims of the nature of that fanboys-online.com rant, then it is possibly a sadder indictment.
Personally, my best guess is that it was a very rough demo of the build using the GoldenEye game to show to interested parties at a *very* early stage.
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It looks real enough to me, the fact that it shows him playing it on an actual DS as well, such a shame it got cancelled, it would have been really good. That looks to be some of the best performance I've ever seen on the DS.
I was trying to figure out, are the enemies sprites?
I'm loving the soundtrack as well, another awesome thing that they have done for the DS's capabilities.
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| Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 12:25 am Post subject: |
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This would have been such a good game!! Looking at the pics it reminds me of Metroid Prime: Hunters...
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It makes no sense why Matt would fake a video. The points posted up on fanboy-online does not prove anything. This was a pre-alpha game so obviously there are going to be some bugs. While it is questionable whether he was playing against Bozon or just bots, but so what? the game still exsited.
He shoots with the left shoulder button when the gun is right-handed....ummm yea cuz his holding the stylus in his right hand. The screen points up when his moving the stylus left and right...yea i think thats because he was shot (maybe by a bot) and died hence the screen pans up, im sure there are other games that are the same.
It was just goldeneye DS reskinned, and EA probably didnt get any approval to do it. It was just a demo of what Halo "would" look like on DS. The games never coming out anyway so i dont really see any reason why people would be dissapointed if it was a fake anyway which i dont think it is.
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Yeah like everyone has said, I read about this on Fanboys. To me it doesn't look real (as in it was going to be actually made rather than just knocked up for a bit of fun).
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| Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 10:46 am Post subject: |
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Well geez, if fanboys-online said it then it must be so! How foolish of anyone to doubt them!
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The whole thing is pretty odd. I could buy that being a pre-alpha 'proof of concept' sort of deal, but that doesn't help with the 'how' and 'why' questions. Sure the DS is getting that Viva Pinata game, but thats from a dev that used to be in bed with Nintendo so thats a little different.
There's nothing been presented so far that should make me think its anything more than a neat little bit of homebrew. Not saying it is, but neither side of the argument is particularly compelling at this stage.
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I've read what fanboys online has to say, and i'll just say that they should just stick to drawing comics.
While there could've been at some point a halo demo for the DS, its now M$ bitch so don't go holding your breath. Unless some super mini bill gates nerd came along and made a home brew version for it i doubt this will ever grow.
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Vindicated I am Selfish I am Wrong...just thought I should add the Dashboard Confessionals.
If this game was to be released I think it will be a flop. On the DS the graphics will be good but not great. Wait untill Microsoft finally reveal their handheld console.
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| Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 12:37 pm Post subject: |
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Re: the above two posts...
Is there a carbon monoxide leak in here?
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I love how easy it is to fool people 
I would love to point out the many problems with both of the IGN videos but SwiftShock does such a better job at that, just watch it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Uy3g4lmSZc&mode=user&search=
not gonna happen fella's...
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the thing i don't get is why would IGN stage such an elaborate hoax?
if it were April, sure, i could understand it, it wouldn't be all that hard to pull off, but September/October?
it just doesn't gel.
i haven't seen any "proof" of it being a hoax that can't in turn be explained away with "well, it's an Alpha build", and the underlying "why bother?" question seems more compelling as to existence - or at least, that IGN believe it's existence. (i'm not discounting that it IS a hoax - i just don't think IGN began, or are in on it.)
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Seems to me like that matches IGN's story exactly, so how does it disprove them? AAA developer, extremely early build (so not necessarily it's own engine), and obviously some issue with the rights to making the game (ie EA doing it not MS). So what's your point?
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Can I just clarify, because it seems some people here are obviously confused (RTFM) - IGN are not claiming that the game is currently in production, or that it will be coming out. The whole point of the story is that it was in development, or planning stages, but the project has long since been canned.
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Using a games engine is one thing. This is just a re-skinned version of the game. I don't think any "AAA developer" is going to rip sounds, Text, Layout and Sprites from one game and use it on another game. Especially with a game as big as Halo. The game reflects more of Golden eye then it does of Halo
http://blogs.ign.com/Matt-IGN/2007/01/04/42284
That was his original post back in January (or what could look like April 1st)
but anyway here's a quote from that article
"Once upon a time, a very smart publisher came up with a brilliant idea. It contacted Microsoft and got the ball rolling on a very unlikely project: Halo for Nintendo DS."
Bungie never knew about it- http://www.xbox360fanboy.com/2007/07/19/bungie-no-official-halo-ds-ever-existed/
Would'nt you expect Bungie to know something about it. When the Spartan was included in DOA4 Bungie was communicated very closely with Team Ninja and even now they are helping with Halo Wars and Peter Jacksons Halo Game. This is not something Bungie wouldn't know about
None of this is going to happen Microsoft is very protective of there IP and even sent cease and desist letters to Mod developers (see Halogen a Halo mod for CnC Generals) http://www.joystiq.com/2006/09/13/ms-shuts-down-halogen-mod-why-now/
My point is, he (Matt) claims that it was being developed by a AAA developer and I'm calling BS. There is many holes in his story and all together it is just very unlikely
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| DeathFalcon wrote: | | Using a games engine is one thing. This is just a re-skinned version of the game. I don't think any "AAA developer" is going to rip sounds, Text, Layout and Sprites from one game and use it on another game. |
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That's how the development process works. If a developer is going to build a new game in the same genre as an existing one they've built, they often use the same engine. During development not all the game assets would be complete, so you'll see existing ones as part of the work in progress.
About half the first person shooters out there use the unreal engine - by the time they come out they have their own unique assets, which is why the look and sound different, but there's a LOT of common code in many games out there from many different developers.
Aside from that, this is a DS game, not a PC game. There's not going to be easy tools for "making a mod" out of it. Only a company with all the original assets could do this. That means EA.
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James and Karai... marry me. I'll convert to Mormonism so it'll be legit. Thank god (the Mormon one) that at least some other people get it.
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How can anyone possibly think its 'fake'. Some people are plain stupid. As James said its just a demo made from GE:RA on the DS. If youre confused about Matts 'small developer' comment read Craigs blog:
| Quote: | A few years ago, I had insiders from multiple development studios telling me about a "secret project" they were pitching Microsoft on...which turned out to be Halo for Nintendo handhelds.
When I had posted a story about Halo coming to GBA/DS, that's when everything came crashing down. The next day I was assaulted from every side imaginable: Microsoft, Bungie, and the dev studios who were working on the project. Producers from all development studios freaked out that I violated their trust...none knowing that their project was also being pitched by other studios. Hell, one development studio I had no prior relationship with contacted me and requested where I got the information from so they could plug the leak...confirming that Microsoft was secretly working with yet another studio I didn't even know about.
Microsoft obviously had all sorts of developers working on a concept without any of the companies knowing there were others doing the same thing. If the project was to move forward, they'd pick the right team for the job. One that could do the game justice and a good price. |
http://blogs.ign.com/craig-ign/2007/10/03/68006/
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Having barely played Halo multiplayer ever I could very well be wrong, but isn't the level shown in the footage a Halo level?
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