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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 3:10 pm    Post subject: Noobz releases PSP 3.50 downgrader! Reply with quote

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-Noobz releases 3.50 downgrader!

Here's what you'll need to complete the downgrade:

-A PSP, upgraded to the official Sony v3.50 firmware. You should also set your language settings to "English".
-A legal Lumines UMD, either the EU (ULES00043) or US (ULUS10002) version. The original, Platinum, or Greatest Hits versions are all fine. Support for the Japanese version will come soon.
-Sufficient intelligence and english language skills to be able to carefully and throroughly read the instructions.
-It would also help if you've previously run the Illuminati Hello World, so that you're familiar with how to run the Illuminati exploit.

Anyway, do a Search on it and you can download the files you need.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 8:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Well this probably comes as a big punch in the face to Sony, I bet they thought they were so smart, making all their firmwares impossibly downgradable, HA, I laugh at their efforts. But seriously, Sony must be pretty pissed right now, as more and more people are becoming aware of PSP homebrew, they are going to lose quite a few sales methinks. I wonder what they will do to counter this, maybe they will relase a quick unhackable 3.51, to patch up for any noobs who are unaware of it.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Only problem with these since 3.31 is that Sony have now got an inbuilt detection system that can see whether you have downgraded, if positive, then future official firmware upgrades will no longer install. This leaves you dependant on OE firmwares for games that require the most recent firmware.

Currently this is no problem, but if god forbid, a firware came out that "could not" be hacked, then players will be stuck on older hacked firmware and may not be able to play new titles with inbuilt checking.

Of course though, if it can't be hacked, it will be icon_razz.gif
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 7:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I've been waiting for 3.50 OE, still not out. In my opinion firmware updates on the PSP coming more and more useless, there isnt much of update nowdays (3.50 now being exception) just fight piracy or homebrew.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 12:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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hmmm i wonder how sony will be able to combat this. the only thing i could think of would making it somewhat worth while having it connect to the ps3 for gaming or maybe a usefull application which doesnt suck and then constantly asking to have the latest firmware, but as said before it'll be hard to stop people from hacking the system, especially now that they have missed a spot and let people downgrade from 3.5

if they ever do release a second version psp, i'll probably buy the new one and keep it for the ps3 to connect to.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 1:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Dark_Alex just recently said that he was working on 3.50 OE-C and that it should be out soon.

And Sony must be cut right now LOL.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I say Sony should completely lock up the PSP if you were to downgrade or alter its Flash in any way. And with their own updates, have a unique key or something that allows an update.

I'm a homebrew user but I'm probably going back to the Normal PSP firmwares. Homebrew is starting to bore me.
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I say Sony should completely lock up the PSP if you were to downgrade or alter its Flash in any way. And with their own updates, have a unique key or something that allows an update.

I'm a homebrew user but I'm probably going back to the Normal PSP firmwares. Homebrew is starting to bore me.


It would be illegal for them to do a lock up of the psp. As downgrading is not illegal in anyway (Sony were actually making an official downgrader, but it got canned. And a lock up would bring way to many lawsuits) Wait why would you go back to normal firmware if homebrew bores you. There is no advantage to going back to a normal firmware. Unless you are just using 1.5 (in which case you should go to 3.40 OE-C, that way you have howmbrew and can play all games)
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I can see the locking as justified as homebrew is majorly used for piracy, which is very bad for Sony.

Anyway homebrew bores me regardless of which version of homebrew I've been using. I only ever use my PSP for some minor gaming and music anyway, and homebrew doesn't really add anything significant enough. Plus I want full PSP to PS3 connectivity.
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I say Sony should completely lock up the PSP if you were to downgrade or alter its Flash in any way. And with their own updates, have a unique key or something that allows an update.

I'm a homebrew user but I'm probably going back to the Normal PSP firmwares. Homebrew is starting to bore me.


Its a little Self-serving statment dont ya think?
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I do not see a lockup as "justified". People have the right to be allowed to run the system at whatever firmware they want. (regardless of what they are using it for)
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I do not see a lockup as "justified". People have the right to be allowed to run the system at whatever firmware they want. (regardless of what they are using it for)


Yes people have a right to use whatever firmware they want but not if it is being used to do illegal things.
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I do not see a lockup as "justified". People have the right to be allowed to run the system at whatever firmware they want. (regardless of what they are using it for)


Yes people have a right to use whatever firmware they want but not if it is being used to do illegal things.


Exactly, which is why the lockup mechanism would be justified. Sony need to make money. Homebrew doesn't do that for them, it only screws them over because generally most people will use that homebrew for illegal purposes. So I don't see how someone can sue Sony for locking their own machine up and not allowing people to screw with its system settings. It's their machine, which pretty much means they can do whatever they damn well please with it.
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You're generalising, frozencry. Homebrew is one thing, Piracy is another. But the fact you were using homebrew, were you pirating?
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So I don't see how someone can sue Sony for locking their own machine up and not allowing people to screw with its system settings. It's their machine, which pretty much means they can do whatever they damn well please with it.


Hang on, are you saying it's their(sony's) machine or our machine by that quote?I hope you weren't inferring that sony still own a machine i payed x dollars for.Bottom line is if i payed $300 or whatever for a psp i wanna do whatever the hell i want with it.I could prop up a wonky chair if i wanted too, i payed the money.If i wanna run an old firmware then so be it, that's my choice.Homebrew/using older firmware =/= using piracy.

Your using too many 'blanket' words like 'generally' and 'majorly'........it doesn't matter if 99.999% of customers use there psp for illegal activities, they can't implement a doa on any console that uses a downgraded firmware, cause that .001% of customers are getting royally screwed, using a different firmware then what big brother says should be ok.

Big brother can do lots of things to point people in the right direction of using the firmware they want them do, by adding jazzy features and making newer games only work with more recent versions, but you can't punish those for not jumping through sony's, or any other companies firmware hoops.
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You're generalising, frozencry. Homebrew is one thing, Piracy is another. But the fact you were using homebrew, were you pirating?


Frozencry wrote:
most people will use that homebrew for illegal purposes.


I'm in the minority of that and don't pirate. I thought I made it pretty clear with that statement.

Jibbs: Didn't mean it that way. You still own the PSP and can do whatever the hell you want with it, but that doesn't stop the fact that Sony aren't allowed to add security precautions in to try and stop piracy, which is what they've been trying to do anyway without taking away our 'rights', as you've explained to me just now and I didn't really know of.
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Frozencry wrote:
poweroffarts wrote:
You're generalising, frozencry. Homebrew is one thing, Piracy is another. But the fact you were using homebrew, were you pirating?


Frozencry wrote:
most people will use that homebrew for illegal purposes.


I'm in the minority of that and don't pirate. I thought I made it pretty clear with that statement.


Actually you didnt, you mentioned most people do piracy but you failed to specify your own nature for homebrew.

Second point you claimed you did use homebrew, cause you're bored it should be banned all together. I'd disagree with that.
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Uh no, you seem to have a warped perception on what I said. Homebrew on the PSP in itself opens the world to piracy which not only harms Sony, but the gaming industry as a whole. That's why I think it shouldn't exactly be allowed. My boredom and current disdain for it is just what I feel about it.

And to be more specific for you on my uses for homebrew: I modify a lot of my s**t so I can try get the most features out of it that I would consider useful. I'm done with screwing with my PSP as the features that it comes with upon purchase is all that I need.
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while i doubt that they can do anything on this version, this might be considered in their v2, besides wasn't the chip board on the later version's of the psp altered so that you weren't able to downgrade.

only because of this recent loop hole where they can be downgraded again has only risen the issue i thought the only other method before this was to obtain a psp with a low firmware 2.7 was my understanding.

otherwise i would work on trying to change the code on the games to make it more difficult to copy/play but i'm not too sure how difficult this can be to achieve and i'm sure it would be broken into eventually.
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If Sony was to legally be able to lock-up systems it would show that a company has special rights over individuals.

It is there responsibility as a company to write better code so that people cannot pirate games. As a lock-up systems is not justified, as like jibbs said even if it is only 0.000000001% of people who don't use it illegally; then they have the right to do whatever they want to the system.

If Sony did not want downgrades in the first place, then they should not have started working on an official downgrader. And it is my understanding that at first Sony were saying how you can use the psp like a PC (Freedom to install whatever you want)

ohh and ittekimasu prior to this downgrader you could use the exploit in the unpatched version of gta LCS to downgrade 3.03
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If Sony was to legally be able to lock-up systems it would show that a company has special rights over individuals.

It is there responsibility as a company to write better code so that people cannot pirate games. As a lock-up systems is not justified, as like jibbs said even if it is only 0.000000001% of people who don't use it illegally; then they have the right to do whatever they want to the system.

What? It is not the responsibilty of a company to ensure barriers are in place to prevent piracy. They have Copyright Laws to back them up.
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Uh no, you seem to have a warped perception on what I said. Homebrew on the PSP in itself opens the world to piracy which not only harms Sony, but the gaming industry as a whole. That's why I think it shouldn't exactly be allowed. My boredom and current disdain for it is just what I feel about it.

As much as piracy is wrong, you're blowing it out of proportion. All consoles suffer from piracy in one way or another, all the way back to the good old days. The PSP's poor game sales are from a lack of any groundbreaking titles and a lack of PSP units.

Sony can do whatever they want to prevent homebrew, but at the end of the day they are fighting a fight they cannot win. Its their development costs, and in the meantime I've got a homebrew enabled PSP. Kthnxbai Sony.
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^Me too. (had it since the good old days of 1.5)

That seems to be the only thing i use it for (and divx)
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Uh no, you seem to have a warped perception on what I said. Homebrew on the PSP in itself opens the world to piracy which not only harms Sony, but the gaming industry as a whole. That's why I think it shouldn't exactly be allowed. My boredom and current disdain for it is just what I feel about it.

As much as piracy is wrong, you're blowing it out of proportion. All consoles suffer from piracy in one way or another, all the way back to the good old days. The PSP's poor game sales are from a lack of any groundbreaking titles and a lack of PSP units.


Actually half the reason the games don't sell is because homebrew has allowed them to be downloaded with piracy. Working at retail I'm suprised to see how many people actually use homebrew (they tend to mention they use it after talking with them for a little). Only the little kids with parents buy the games. Everyone else just looks around and some people buy them then 'return' them because they don't want it anymore. icon_razz.gif A good hint at what they're doing.
That's why the piracy levels are a lot higher on the PSP than on most other platforms. It's the homebrew.
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I can agree with Frozencry - emulation is definitely killing the PSP - as far as I can remember it has been that way since launch, which is a real pity that people insist on making that kind of stuff, because it had a lot of potential for being a legal homebrew machine.
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