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Right, NOW I'm pissed. This is just not acceptable.
If Vispi has no idea then it's definitely not looking good. Sick of making excuses for Nintendo Australia. Too annoyed to even want to import an NTSC Wii although it was on the cards a while back.
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Yeah it amazes me that he has *no* idea when these things are coming to Australia.
It seems to indicate that Nintendo America/Japan has left Australia in the dark but I really would have expected that he would've known this kind of stuff, since it's pretty much his job.
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Hey, I'm not going to defend Nintendo Australia/Europe, but did you guys read the linked article (on Gamearena?) This Kotaku article is jumping to conclusions on top of the conclusions Gamearena already jumped to.
I mean, read this paragraph:
| Quote: | | Finally, Super Paper Mario was handed to me to have a crack at, and while I avoided taking in too much of the story (knowing full well how deep it was going to be), I can tell you the series has been stripped back a tonne. It feels less like an RPG now and more like a 2D side-scrolling Mario adventure with some whacky level design and a bit of 3D here and there for good measure. It definitely looks the part and plays beautifully, but having some of the core RPG elements pulled from the game doesn't feel right. Still, it's the type of game that needs some solid investment, and one I deliberately held back from getting too involved with to save for the review - so stay tuned in the coming weeks for that. |
The guy had no idea what Super Paper Mario even was before playing it, it's hardly a piece written by someone 'in the know'. It sounds like the writer skipped the Gamecube entirely (despite him claiming to have played RE4 on it), as he has no knowledge of the original Mario Strikers either, and his only comparison for Charged is by going all the way back to the mis-named 'Super' Mario Tennis on the N64.
No dates were given or even speculated on directly by Nintendo, only this uninformed writer. In fact, the main thing established here was a tentative release of Metroid in Europe in September, and SPM being released this year - both GOOD things.
Hey, it could all be true, but this is proof of nothing.
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Quite a pitiful show really, things look bad for PAL Wii owners. At least we're getting Mario Strikers, but it looks like that's it for a while. I can't blame people for wanting an NTSC Wii, this just isn't good enough. They seem to treat us badly because they can, they'll pay for it when their sales figures for Australia aren't as high as they should have been once the games finally get released.
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I just read this over on Kotaku and raced over here to see if anybody was talking about it.
It's been a terribly long wait for first-party Nintendo franchises to hit the Wii, and to be reminded of the possibility that the wait could go on for a lot longer is not a good thing.
I want to buy 4 games this year.
One is for the DS (Zelda), and the other three are for the Wii (Smash Bros., Super Mario, Metroid) - I'd hate to have to wait until 2008 for some of these games, just because I have a PAL system.
If I may quote from the Kotaku piece the line that sums up my senitments exactly (and which made me laugh out loud):
"It's June already, if you can't confirm with them that these games will be out this calendar year, people will freak the f*** out."
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*groan* Okay I just saw the quote at Kotaku and assumed it was from Vispi Bhopti. That'll teach me for not reading more carefully.
I guess the Smash Bros site pretty much tells us it's not coming to PAL in 2008, so you're right, the article doesn't say much new.
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| Disorder wrote: | | *groan* Okay I just saw the quote at Kotaku and assumed it was from Vispi Bhopti. That'll teach me for not reading more carefully. |
While there's no real new info here, I will be taking this opportunity to moan at the incredibly glacial pace of Wii release information...
where on earth is my Papario 
Wish they'd hurry up with development of a Fwiiloader too
Ah, I feel a bit better now 
Incidentally, I particularly like this comment on Kotaku... | BPMΩ wrote: | Dear NOE and NOAU:
Your userbases know all about the games America and Japan gets months ahead of them, even though you're always so mum about them.
It's a little something called the Internet. It's a really amazing little thing, it is. |
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Explain this to me. Why, why do all games take longer to get here? Wow they have to change mom to mum and color to colour. That must be at least a 6 month delay, :O wait no it's not. I'm seriously sick of us not getting games
Edit: Wait I forgot, I have a wiikey so I can import =D
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| David wrote: | Hey, I'm not going to defend Nintendo Australia/Europe, but did you guys read the linked article (on Gamearena?) This Kotaku article is jumping to conclusions on top of the conclusions Gamearena already jumped to.
I mean, read this paragraph:
| Quote: | | Finally, Super Paper Mario was handed to me to have a crack at, and while I avoided taking in too much of the story (knowing full well how deep it was going to be), I can tell you the series has been stripped back a tonne. It feels less like an RPG now and more like a 2D side-scrolling Mario adventure with some whacky level design and a bit of 3D here and there for good measure. It definitely looks the part and plays beautifully, but having some of the core RPG elements pulled from the game doesn't feel right. Still, it's the type of game that needs some solid investment, and one I deliberately held back from getting too involved with to save for the review - so stay tuned in the coming weeks for that. |
The guy had no idea what Super Paper Mario even was before playing it, it's hardly a piece written by someone 'in the know'. It sounds like the writer skipped the Gamecube entirely (despite him claiming to have played RE4 on it), as he has no knowledge of the original Mario Strikers either, and his only comparison for Charged is by going all the way back to the mis-named 'Super' Mario Tennis on the N64.
No dates were given or even speculated on directly by Nintendo, only this uninformed writer. In fact, the main thing established here was a tentative release of Metroid in Europe in September, and SPM being released this year - both GOOD things.
Hey, it could all be true, but this is proof of nothing. |
Fair enough, and thanks for that, but I'm still pissed due to Super Paper Mario and the delays on most other games I've been interested in since launch.
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I don't get why Nintendo can do Zelda, Wii Play, Warioware, Excite Truck, Strikers, Mario Party 8 and RE4 all pretty damn quickly... but Super Paper Mario? Eh, forget about it.
I do have faith that Nintendo Australia will pull through here (they are bloody good with major releases most of the time, though few people seem to recognise this), but I certainly wouldn't be surprised at all if not all of the big games make it. Disappointed, sure, but not surprised.
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| DancesInUnderwear wrote: | I don't get why Nintendo can do Zelda, Wii Play, Warioware, Excite Truck, Strikers, Mario Party 8 and RE4 all pretty damn quickly... but Super Paper Mario? Eh, forget about it.
I do have faith that Nintendo Australia will pull through here (they are bloody good with major releases most of the time, though few people seem to recognise this), but I certainly wouldn't be surprised at all if not all of the big games make it. Disappointed, sure, but not surprised. |
I don't see why SPM should be seen as a sign that everything else will be delayed significantly, when nothing else has been, and we've even gotten some games before the US. Hey, I could be wrong, and there could have been a major change of policy. But right now the evidence suggests we'll get the big games within a month or so of the US.
That said, the SPM situation is still utterly ridiculous. As is the short notice Nintendo always give on release dates. Remember that we only got the release date for the Wii itself in September, only two months before it was actually released. I have no problems with complaints about these two points.
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Yeah lots of people seem to forget that games like Eledees, Dragon Ball Z and other are not Nintendo's fault at all. And although we bag Nintendo some times for its choice of release dates its more oftent he fact that they wait till the last minte to tell us these dates that gets us the most.
But gotta give em props for getting RE4Wii here rather quick, even if it is a port.
Kudo's where it is due
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Main reason why it takes longer for games to Australia is the conversion of formats from NTSC to PAL .. and the multiple language translations they have to do to cater for all the people in EUROPE.
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| segax wrote: | | Main reason why it takes longer for games to Australia is the conversion of formats from NTSC to PAL .. and the multiple language translations they have to do to cater for all the people in EUROPE. |
It isn't all that hard to get the different languages done before putting the game into 'submission' - really. I don't accept 'translation' as an excuse at all, and no-one else should either.
Conversion I know less about, but again it should be done during development and not after.
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I wish another game would take on the 2d/cutesy graphics that Paper Mario employs cuz I really love that style and it's agony waiting for Nintendo's stuff.
It seems to me once again Nintendo's 1st party games are the ones left to satisfy gamers. We can't blame Nintendo too much for their delayed games....there is only so much they can do and they're not the biggest software developer in the world, also they have to actually worry about the console they've developed and maintaing that in the market, they have a lot of things to do. It's not like Ps3 and 360 owners are waiting on the next Sony or Microsoft game to enjoy their console, there are lots of 3rd party games that those console owners have to look foward to....infact most of the games those console owners have to look foward to are 3rd party. If the 3rd parties had a bit of a better track record on the Wii or if they actually had a few more decent titles in the works then there would be no reason to get upset. Imagine if Red Steel had been real solid, people would be hanging for the next Ubisoft game I guarantee it, as it is I don't even know what Ubisoft's next game for the Wii is and quite frankly I couldn't care less. There are a couple of games from 3rd party publishers that i'm looking foward to (Umbrella Chronicles, Manhunt 2 and Treasure Island Z or whatever it's called now)....but I wish there were more.
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^ I believe you summed it up perfectly Ugh. People would be able to live with delays and poor information about first party games if there was just something to fill the void apart from a bunch of crap 3rd party ports. Nintendo (parent company) probably aren't helping the situation though with a relatively vague plan for online infrastructure and things like downloadable content.
I moved house 2 months ago and my Wii might finally get unpacked tomorrow for Strikers 
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Yeah, I wish Nintendo Australia would get into gear. I'm a little shocked and worried about reading that report. Seriously hope we get the big games in 2007, otherwise I'm very tempted to get a US Wii. I got a PAL Wii to support Australia Nintendo and keep the little battler going (not that they need my help by the looks of it).
Hrmmm, surely we'll get them all in 2007. Maybe?
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[quote="ugh the boot"]If the 3rd parties had a bit of a better track record on the Wii or if they actually had a few more decent titles in the works then there would be no reason to get upset. Imagine if Red Steel had been real solid, people would be hanging for the next Ubisoft game I guarantee it, as it is I don't even know what Ubisoft's next game for the Wii is and quite frankly I couldn't care less.[/quote]
its nintendo's own fault there is no 3rd party support. they did a horrible job with the gamecube and all the third parties left. then when they brought out the wiimote and declared they didn't care about graphics or computing power - i dont think that would have attracted them back.
the third parties will start to come back now, because nintendo have sold so many consoles they can't ignore it anymore, but it will take time. while its easy to say its the third parties fault, the reality is this is all nintendos doing.
for the record, ubisofts next game is faving rabbids 2. how utterly exciting [/sarcasm]
thank god i have an xbox to tide me over while i wait an eternity for anything worth playing on the wii.
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| Pilliy wrote: | | Wait I forgot, I have a wiikey so I can import =D |
Does the wiikey affect your Wii online or anything other than your warranty??
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So whats the best way of importing a Wii - i had an import cube last time and starting to wish i had REALLy gone down that road again...
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| cranky wrote: | | Pilliy wrote: | | Wait I forgot, I have a wiikey so I can import =D |
Does the wiikey affect your Wii online or anything other than your warranty?? |
It allows you to play hacked games..
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What you taking about we are in Australia,
modifying a console to remove region coding = Legal
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| B3NBO wrote: | Isn't Wiikey illegal under the new modchip laws?
It allows you to play hacked games.. |
I really couldn't care less if it's illegal or not. I'm thinking of modding my system to import games not to play hacked games. With the release dates of Pal Wii games looking like tumble weeds, I'd like to grab some titles early from playasia (they are selling the US version of RE4 for around $40 as well).
I chipped my PS2 so I could import some of the Japanese shmups that were NEVER going to see the light of day in Pal regions. Never chipped my X-box as there was hardly a Japanese following and hence no NTSC only games that I was interested in. The only other console I've chipped is my Dreamcast for the same reason. The last 10-15 releases have been NTSC-J only.
Oh, and I can't be arsed with disc swapping thingies before anyone asks (not that the wii has that option yet).
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