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I dropped out half way through year 11.
'Nuff said. 
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| Vervain wrote: | Oh god I hate year 12 right now. I'm doing 4 of the hardest subjects there are, those being Math Specialist, Math Methods, Chemistry and Physics, and I didn't even take the easy way out with English and picked Literature instead. Over here in Victoria we have a little thing called a 'SAC' or 'School Assesed Coursework', basically those range from tests to pracs(in science subjects), to written or oral responses. These things are a pain in the A** and if you're unlucky, like me, some of your teachers might decide to make them harder then the darned exam is, I regard every single lesson I have of Math Specialist to be the equivalent of a SAC. I almost dropped out of Specialist 2 weeks into the year and I am still contemplating doing this.
This is not the only thing I have to put up with though. I work 2 shifts a week, although this isn't too bad, and have to put up with a few of my friends becoming condescending p****s because they don't think I'm studying enough.(Even though I'm averaging higher in 2 of my subjects, I'm only 8% lower in another and we're around about the same in another of the 2 left as well.) |
Unfortunately i am as 'lucky' as you, VCE year 12 represent. Pain in the A** is an understatement if i ever heard one, like you im doing Methods and Chem i top it off with Biology, normal English and systems engineering. I did enhancement Psychology last year and it in no way prepeared me for this year, this year is nuts, between the SAC's every week and the 3 and a half hours of homework/study each night(no joke ask Vervain) i have almost no time to play games anymore, god i hope this eases off. Anyways that's not the worst of it, exams in 4 weeks midyears for 2 subjects, eeek not again! Oh well everyone has to do at some time( EDIT: not really by the sounds of it  ) I just cant wait for it to be over... then Uni. Gah!
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| Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 4:25 pm Post subject: |
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^ Klawrence, Uni is the easiest thing ever. You just rack up a huge HECS debt while staying out late, sleeping in, socialising, doing assignments the morning they're due.
And more often then not your study something you like.
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I'm in year 10 at the moment, plugging through quite easily actually. Man, Queensland schooling sounds WAY better than all you peoples states. I hardly study at all, but I get top marks in just about everything. Apparently I'm "naturally gifted" at some things, I don't think so but.
I go to a state school at the moment, but probably going private next year. I like state schooling, but there are just too many dumb-ass teachers that the students actually have to teach lol.
I'm like Crestfallen, do all my assignments last minute, they seem to turn out better quality that way than if I do them a week before its due, and I have never handed an assignment in late so its all good. I remember once I was doing a SOSE assignment at about 1 in the morning, and there were 8 other people on MSN from my class doing it as well, so there are a lot of people like me. I got an A on that assignment lol, so it works.
I'm most likely gonna go to UNI, but defer a couple of years and make some money working and figure out what I want to do, I haven't really decided yet but I do still have 2 years of school left to decide I spose.
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| Klawrence wrote: | | like you im doing Methods and Chem i top it off with Biology, normal English and systems engineering. |
I did English, Japanese, Physics, Methods and Electronics for my Year 12 two years ago. Messed around pretty much in all the classes except electronics so I only got 56.05  But I got in the top 5 for Electronics.
Is Systems still a joke of a subject? I dropped it after Year 11 because I didn't like the people in the class (even though I got perfect marks). From what I remember all you did was build something and keep a journal of what you did.
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I did English, Maths General, Maths Methods, Accounting, Design and Communication.
All dodgy subjects. We got no course counselling, so I had no idea about the unequal weighting of subjects. If I had of known this, I would have stayed on with Chemistry and Physics.
I got a good ENTER score, but not what I could have got so that is disappointing.
This is way back in 2000 now though.
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| nikack wrote: | | Klawrence wrote: | | like you im doing Methods and Chem i top it off with Biology, normal English and systems engineering. |
I did English, Japanese, Physics, Methods and Electronics for my Year 12 two years ago. Messed around pretty much in all the classes except electronics so I only got 56.05 But I got in the top 5 for Electronics.
Is Systems still a joke of a subject? I dropped it after Year 11 because I didn't like the people in the class (even though I got perfect marks). From what I remember all you did was build something and keep a journal of what you did. |
Its now a new course, it used to be systems technology but now its called systems engineering as the word suggests it has more to do with basic physics. I did Physics in year 11 and had to drop it because of prerequisites for the uni course i am going for. The physics is not even as complex as the stuff iv done in year 11 witch was basic at best(F=MA, calculating resistance parallel and series ect ect.) It still does however have the 'build something and keep a journal of it' element but its now requires an integrated system of both some sort of mechanical aspect combined with an electrical component eg: Im making a remote controlled car from the ground up(RF). I actually like it a lot more than i expected, its not challenging whatsoever and so when its throw in with the other subjects im doing i consider it very relaxing.
Crestfallen, Im friendly with a few people who are first years and the work load they get seems to be greatly dependent on what they are doing eg: I have a friend who is doing P.E teaching at Deakin, 16 hours a week. I have another friend doing biomedical science at Melbourne, 24-28 hours a week!
Bad thing for me is that i am probably going to need to work up a few credits to get into what i want to:
http://www.science.unimelb.edu.au/courses/BBiomed.php
So with that comes a heap of work, doesn't it?
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^ I would do Science over BioMed. Science lets you do everything in Biomed plus more.
You are not bound in science. I think BioMed has alot of prescibed subjects whereas Science lets you choose. If you major a Science degree with Microbiology and Immunology or something, then its just as good as BioMed.
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I'm selecting my courses for year 11 now anyone know what i should choose because i want to do mechatronics at uni so yea thanks
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Mechatronics sounds hell boring.
If you wanna do fun electives do food technology and programming.
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Look up courses on the internet and have a look to see if they have any pre-requisite Year 11/12 subjects. Many subjects require Maths Methods (for VIC anyway) or at least General Maths.
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| efo wrote: | | I'm selecting my courses for year 11 now anyone know what i should choose because i want to do mechatronics at uni so yea thanks |
Who gave you that idea? Your brother?
Just sounds so random.
Anyway to mechatronics your going to need all of the maths plus physics plus whatever you want.
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| crestfallen wrote: | ^ I would do Science over BioMed. Science lets you do everything in Biomed plus more.
You are not bound in science. I think BioMed has alot of prescibed subjects whereas Science lets you choose. If you major a Science degree with Microbiology and Immunology or something, then its just as good as BioMed. |
Thats pretty close to what i want to do, im thinking of doing Science and then sussing it out to see if i want to go into biomed from there or pehaps stay in the science degree, of course it greatly depends on what really interests me in the bachelor of science degree and the ENTER i get. Honestly, i cant see myself getting into biomedicine as the ENTER is 95.6 or something horrid like that, but the bachelor of science has a more appealing ENTER of 83 or so which is in my predicted result at the end of the year. I dunno, so many choices so little time, what specific course are you doing crest? where at?
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^ Doing Science mate.
But yeah Science > BioMed. so many possibilities. I've done subjects through each faculty. Biology, Chemistry, Physics, Mathematics.
You don't have to get a Biomed degree to work in the bio field. The Bach of Science is very capable and once your in Honours years (which you pretty much have to do if you want a worth while job) there is absolutely no difference.
I would apply for Science and not Biomed. Especially since your mind very well might change during uni.
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| crestfallen wrote: | ^ Klawrence, Uni is the easiest thing ever. You just rack up a huge HECS debt while staying out late, sleeping in, socialising, doing assignments the morning they're due.
And more often then not your study something you like. |
Yeah, uni... easy... sure...
I haven't had an easy moment since I started.
Commerce wasn't as bad as Law is, but doing dual Accounting and Finance and trying to hit Ds and HDs was a lot of work (especially with corporate finance - valuing stuff took me a while to get the hang of).
And now with Law - hardly a moment to take a breath!
So far the marks have been fan-fricken-tastic, so the hard work has paid off - I complain about the work, but then I remember that I chose to put myself through this.
My point?
Uni is the most fun you'll ever have in your life.
Seriously, the friends I've made and the freedom I have to do stuff - all great stuff.
But, uni is also hard work if top-end marks are what you want.
Sure, it depends on your degree and your natural abilities, but it hasn't been a walk in the park for me.
Strike a balance (this coming from somebody who's way off balance right now, but trying to set things right again)!
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| Vervain wrote: | Oh god I hate year 12 right now. I'm doing 4 of the hardest subjects there are, those being Math Specialist, Math Methods, Chemistry and Physics, and I didn't even take the easy way out with English and picked Literature instead. Over here in Victoria we have a little thing called a 'SAC' or 'School Assesed Coursework', basically those range from tests to pracs(in science subjects), to written or oral responses. These things are a pain in the A** and if you're unlucky, like me, some of your teachers might decide to make them harder then the darned exam is, I regard every single lesson I have of Math Specialist to be the equivalent of a SAC. I almost dropped out of Specialist 2 weeks into the year and I am still contemplating doing this.
This is not the only thing I have to put up with though. I work 2 shifts a week, although this isn't too bad, and have to put up with a few of my friends becoming condescending p****s because they don't think I'm studying enough.(Even though I'm averaging higher in 2 of my subjects, I'm only 8% lower in another and we're around about the same in another of the 2 left as well.) |
In all honesty, you should really have chosen Further Maths as well - It is seriously a holiday. It sounds totally bad in a moral sense, but looking at students struggle to cope with Back-To-Back Stemplots is rather hilarious, after coming down from Methods.
I dropped from Methods in Year 11 to Further, because I was horrendous at Methods [Can't factorise; Got ~50% on End-Of-Year Exam]. But I seriously didn't think Further would be THIS easy.
The only two subjects that I'm worried is English and Software Development. The latter is because of a severely incompetent teacher, and the former is because I hate damn Essays.
I've just entered a Eng SAC After N'ing an SLT - Which I'll be doing tomorrow. Both.
Oh, and to all Victorians - Don't do VET. It is the biggest waste of time and just makes your Wednesdays Miserable.
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if people fail their HSC do they get another chance? and how do you get a high UAI??
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| efo wrote: | | and how do you get a high UAI?? |
by getting good marks 
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| efo wrote: | | if people fail their HSC do they get another chance? |
You can repeat Year 12 can't you? I know a few people who repeated Year 12 because they weren't happy with their VCE results.
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| Charly wrote: | | efo wrote: | | if people fail their HSC do they get another chance? |
You can repeat Year 12 can't you? I know a few people who repeated Year 12 because they weren't happy with their VCE results. |
I know you can with your VCE (loose 10% of every repeated subject) but efo is talking HSC.
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| Charly wrote: | | efo wrote: | | if people fail their HSC do they get another chance? |
You can repeat Year 12 can't you? I know a few people who repeated Year 12 because they weren't happy with their VCE results. |
Yeah, you can. In NSW though I'm pretty sure that if you redo it your UAI is reduced, by a percentage. My cousin redid his and the final UAI was reduced.
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I'm pretty sure there's no penalty for redoing it. I know a few people who have. But even if it's lower than your original, then that result stands.
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I considering re-doing my VCE. I wanted to get an ENTER 90.00 or higher.
But I was advised against it because I would get an adjusted ENTER the second time around. So I figured that if I got 90.00, it might go down to my other ENTER score anyway. Maybe it depends on the state.
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what is the VCE anyway? what does it do?
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In Victoria we have the Victorian Certificate of Education (VCE) instead of the Higher School Certificate (HSC).
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