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| Analysts predict PSP price cut by Chris Leigh |  | | PSP News: UPDATE: Sony rules out price drop. | | [View Article] |
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| Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 2:03 pm Post subject: |
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Anyone can see this will come sooner or later.
Sooner means Sony will cut the price in October (a month b4 PS3 launch)
Later means Sony will cut the price in Xmas (a month after PS3 launch)
I think Sony will be very stupid to cut the price in November. This will have a huge impact on the sale of the PS3.
IMO, Xmas is the executive decision,
"PS3 Launch in NOV then PSP price cut in DEC"
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| Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 2:33 pm Post subject: |
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I might finally get to play Lumines! I wonder if it'll hit PS2 before the cut!?
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| Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 3:13 pm Post subject: |
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If a price cut does occur, I’ll finally have a chance to play LocoRoco and see if the game is racist in any shape, way or form.
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Hopefully this happens, so I may pick up Killzone Liberation, LocoRoco and all Mega Man Maverick Hunter X.
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Nintendo sometimes do this with their home consoles, e.g. The Nintendo DS has done really well and pretty much killed the Gamecube, Many retail outlets have cut Gamecube Software altogether because they can't profit from such low Game and Hardware sales, I think the Wii will make PS3 loose Momentum as the Playstation 3 controller doesn't add the freedom that free hand controllers can offer,
The DS has damaged Sony's Original Marketing Strategy, so now sony will try to see if the DS is gaining sales due to its lower cost, I personally think the DS appeals because of its touch screen and simplicity of most games "I mean My Grandma has played My DS" it became fammilliar to her as she knows how to write and so picking up and using the stylus is a breeze
I predict the Wii will do this to the PS3, if the DS's popularity over the PSP has anything to do with it
I don't think lowering the PSP price will increase sales by much, but thats just my opinion, take it or leave it
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| Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 7:30 pm Post subject: |
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A price drop a design overhaul would sweeten the deal. In my eyes the PSP is only surpased by the nGadge in ugliness.
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We have an update: Sony's just confirmed now there's no plans for any reduction. See article for details, boo hiss etc.
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| Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 11:17 pm Post subject: |
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Of course they contacted GamesIndustry.biz to say there's no plans of a price drop! They don't want people to stop buying PSPs for the next 3 months waiting for the price drop. They might magically come up with plans in November in some sort of shocking twist!
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| Spanca wrote: | | Of course they contacted GamesIndustry.biz to say there's no plans of a price drop! They don't want people to stop buying PSPs for the next 3 months waiting for the price drop. They might magically come up with plans in November in some sort of shocking twist! |
Also what I'm expecting, to be honest.  Ditto with MS and the 360.
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If there isn't a 360 price drop come Christmas, I'm sure they'll be doing some nice packages to make up the value instead (packages actually make more sense as they don't cost as much to the manufacturer yet they can claim "hundreds of dollars of extra value!"). That's when I'll swoop and grab myself one.
The PSP could cost $50 for all I care.
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Maybe if the PSP was reduced to $200 I might be interested. But as it stands there aren't any games that appeal to me as killer-aps merely extensions of PS2 franchises.
I should buy a PS2 first though 
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This is something I've been wondering about for some time.
Will the advent of the PS3 and the departure (albeit gradual) of the PS2 help or hinder the PSP?
I foresee 2 possibilities.
1) Without simply being able to port over PS2 games, developers will be forced to develop original titles, as has been the case with the DS. The result will be a sudden influx of new titles, developed with the PSP in mind, rather than sloppy or trimmed down ports of PS2 games. This will breathe new life into the handheld and accelerate sales.
2) Without the secondary funding provided by the PS2 versions of their games, developers will be less likely to take risks on the PSP's smaller userbase and overlook the handheld in favour of PS3, Xbox 360 or Wii/DS development. Furthermore, gamers will be less "in awe" of the PSP's specs, as, rather than being "console quality graphics on a handheld," the PSP's visuals will be last gen, and decidedly uglier than its console counterparts.
Should be interesting...
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^ Option 2 sounds more plausable as option 1 is not really a rational strategy.
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| Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 5:50 am Post subject: |
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No price cut for now.
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What is the actual worldwide figures for DS vs PSP?
I think Sony will just release a new media version with a overhaul.
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I really wish there was more available on the psp....it really is a superior system to the DS interms of hardware/potential. Last night I went online with it wirelessly (just setup a lan at home) and it was amazing how quickly I was able to update firmware, wma playback, enable flash media and then just hop in and start setting up RSS channels (streaming music/videos..etc). There is just so much potential there all it needs is some more decent games. Atleast Ultimate GnG and Vice City Stories are due out soonish.
A price cut would really help push the system aswell. Sony should just cut their losses with UMD movies and make any video streaming. UMD's are great for portable games (imo) as it allows a nice balance of speed/capacity.
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| leonmc wrote: | What is the actual worldwide figures for DS vs PSP?
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I'd love to know that myself.
For every Nintendo fanboy screeching about how the DS is monstering the PSP in Japan (which it is), I see very few charts showing the comparison for the rest of the world.
Shipped numbers for both consoles are around 20 million, so I can't imagine there's as much of a gap as we're lead to believe. And if the DS is outselling the PSP by a 5-1 margin in Japan, surely that means that the PSP is winning in other territories (most likely Europe and Australia).
I'd wager the DS is definitely ahead, but by how much, it's hard to say. Certainly the price difference and the DS' head start has something to do with it.
Not that I'm pro-Sony or anti-Nintendo, by any means. Personally, I think it'd be an excellent outcome if both systems sell neck and neck throughout their life cycles, so that they'd both receive good developer support, and the companies would always be fighting to stay ahead.
Competition. You gotta love it.
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| leonmc wrote: | | What is the actual worldwide figures for DS vs PSP? |
Japan (from media create sales data):
DS - 10108503
PSP - 3,799,031
If you want a breakdown of individual versions:
Nintendo DS - 6,575,104
PlayStation Portable - 3,799,031
Nintendo DS Lite - 3,533,399
This means that next week the DS Lite alone will likely have outsold the PSP, and at the current sales rate the DS will have trippled the PSP in Japan within a month.
(source: http://www.dsrevolution.com/article.php?articleid=1385 )
US: (from NPD funworld sales data):
NDS - 5.19 million
PSP - 4.71 million
Source: http://videogamecharts.com/page3.html
As you can see from the stats there, the DS has always been ahead of the PSP in the US, but not by much.
Nintendo has also released a figure for the 'Americas' (including South America) up to the end of June of 5.9 million DS sold. If we add to this the 600,000 DS Lites sold in the US in July, then the DS 'Americas' figure becomes at least 6.5 million
(Americas figure: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_DS )
Australia (to the beginning of June only):
DS: 227,369
PSP: 161,623
Keep in mind that this was before the DS Lite launched!
(Source: http://www.aussie-nintendo.com/?v=news&p=3594 )
And reports say that the DS has been selling more then 3:1 over the PSP since the launch of the DS Lite, so it's expected that the DS will have more then doubled the PSP's sales by now in Australia. But we'll leave it at the confirmed number for now.
Europe (including the UK):
The latest figures I could fine were from February this year, on everyone's favourite site:
PSP total: 2,440,000
DS total: 3,700,000
http://palgn.com.au/article.php?title=DS+and+PSP+sales+in+Europe&id=3897&sid=1afff0d1d2ab837c8133bb4cc64a1b87
also:
http://www.slicedgaming.com/news8302.html
Since then, the DS has pulled even further ahead, most say it's now 2 million ahead in Europe, many say even more since the Lite launched.
Wikipedia says the DS has sold 6.13 million in 'other' (not Japan on US territories) to the end of June.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_DS
So all I can do here is extrapolate a PSP 'other' figure. If the DS is 2 million ahead in Europe, let's be generous and give the PSP an 'other' figure of 4 million (it's highly likeley to be lower, since the DS is well ahead in Australia, which is part of other, for example).
So lets go with
Other (not USA or Japan)
DS - 6.13 million
PSP - about 4 million.
Worldwide:
Nintendo announced that they had sold 21.27 million worldwide as of June.
http://www.n-sider.com/newsview.php?type=story&storyid=2307
Since we can update those figures to include the latest US and Japanese sales figures (see above), this means that the DS has now got confirmed sales of almost 23 million as of the end of July.
There are no real PSP woprldwide figures, because Sony only publishes Shipped figures.
So where does that leave us?
We can't get a totally accurate figure, but it looks something like this:
DS: over 22,738,503 confirmed sales - almost 23 million
(10,108,503 Japan + 6,500,000 Americas + 6,130,000 other)
PSP: about 12,509,031 confirmed sales
(3,799,031 Japan + 4,710,000 US + estimated 4,000,000 other)
PSP Figures would be higher, but since we can't get any actual sales figures from Sony, this is the only truly confirmed total for the PSP.
I'd say a reasonable estimate for PSP total would be just under 15 million , because the only market let to add for them are south america and mainland asia. This estimate is actually quite generous to the PSP, since it assumed it has sold as many as the DS in the mising territories, which based on worldwide trends is highly unlikely.
Conclusion
The DS is far, far ahead everywhere in the world except the US, where it's only just ahead.
(This of course puts Sony's shipped figures to shame. There is no way they have sold any more then 15 million, so they must have literally millions sitting in warehouses and store shelves artificially inflating their 'shipped' numbers).
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| Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 3:57 pm Post subject: |
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10.1m in Japan - that's ridiculous. That means almost 1 in 12 people have a DS. 
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I just spent 2 hours researching and writing this, so I think I'll post it in the gaming forum as it's own thread!
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^ thanks heaps for taking the time to do this David. Very interesting info there....and not surprisingly the DS is wasting the Psp.
Some of the figures would be a little bit off....but it shows a clear indication that the DS is doing much better....and it seems a lot of the figures would be reflecting pre-lite sales......seeing as the Lite was the reason I bought one....i'm sure there are a substantial amount still not accounted for and in light of all that you were actually being quite generous with the actual number of sold units for psp.....so i'm thinking it might actually be more like the Ds is outselling the Psp 2 to 1.
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| Chris-Leigh wrote: | | We have an update: Sony's just confirmed now there's no plans for any reduction. |
UPDATE: I still hate Sony.
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Sony are fools. They could easily sell many millions of PSPs this Xmas if they cut the price to $300. Are they even releasing anything decent this xmas? Now I'm not saying they're not going too, but they seriously need a few AAA titles to increase their market.
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I still don't get it why people who own DS will rush in to buy DS-Lite. To me, that is a waste of good money.
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