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08 Mar, 2007

GDC 2007: PS3 is "best piece of hardware, without question"

PS3 News | Yet time is needed to fulfil potential, reckons Dave Perry.
Dave Perry, former Shiny Entertainment boss and Earthworm Jim's daddy, has been singing the praises of Sony's PlayStation 3 hardware in an interview with GamesIndustry.biz.

"I think that Sony has made the best machine. It's the best piece of hardware, without question," he told the site. "It's absolutely insane hardware, and most people don't really understand that. I've been to the technical summit, I've sat there and listened to complete disclosure of what's in that machine. Being a programmer, it made me just sit there and go, 'Oh my God, this machine's incredible'," he added, perhaps while looking off into the middle distance and even dribbling a little bit.

Yet it's not all sweetness just yet, as Perry reckons it could be a while before the console's true power is really harnessed in spectacular ways. "I haven't seen a single game that shows me the power of PlayStation 3. I haven't seen anything even close to what the machine's capable of doing," he remarked. "So that's the sad part for Sony - I feel really bad for them that somebody hasn't really stepped up to show us the hardware all singing, all dancing.

"We're stuck in this time loop. It happens every single time - we know the games are going to be really bad at the start, and then God of War comes out at the end, and you go, 'The PlayStation 2 hardware can do God of War? It looks incredible! The point is you're not going to get to see the PlayStation 3 for probably a couple of years, and then you're going to go, 'Wow, that's incredible.'"

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35 Comments
5 years ago
^^^^

crestfallen, talking about graphics capabilities not how hard it is to program

Frozencry, your theory works when comparing similar architectures, Cell despite how grunty it is does not do a good job of its cores working together when you compare it to AMD/Intel chips. Also memory resources are important.
5 years ago
renegadesx wrote
^^^^

crestfallen, talking about graphics capabilities not how hard it is to program
You think "good graphics" are linked to processing power but AI and Physics are linked only to programming skill??

This is just a simple case of you being wrong.
5 years ago
I maybe wrong, I maybe right, we will see in a few years. I just think both consoles are just as good as eachother, both have their strengths and weaknesses and you will not (or very seldom at best) see a version of a game being visually superior on a particular platform over its rival
5 years ago
renegadesx wrote
I maybe wrong, I maybe right, we will see in a few years. I just think both consoles are just as good as eachother, both have their strengths and weaknesses and you will not (or very seldom at best) see a version of a game being visually superior on a particular platform over its rival
Oh, I just thought you meant that the level of AI we are expecting this gen was possible on last gen hardware, just with smarter programming.

Multiplatform games are going to stay very similiar across both consoles (I'm guessing the 360 will look better though since its inclusion of some DX10 features).

Exclusives are, and always have been, a different story however. GoW, GeoW, Jak series....
5 years ago
Frozencry wrote
Oh yes it does. Have you played Supreme Commander? Have you seen how destructive that game is on a single core processor as opposed to a dual core? Through that perspective, the 360's 3 cores are going to be doing a whole lot less than what Cell will be doing.
Don't make the typical mistake and say the PS3 has eight cores. The SPEs are in no way equal to a normal proccessing core. That being said, going by normality the 360 can run six things simutanously compared to the PS3's two. The PS3 however can run one complex thread with seven simplier threads with the other "complex thread" managing the SPEs.

Gooberman will come along and correct me though, I've yet (or probably ever) to get my hands on a PS3 dev kit.
5 years ago
nikack wrote
Gooberman will come along and correct me though, I've yet (or probably ever) to get my hands on a PS3 dev kit.
Mitch said Gooberman is busy developing Horsez 2 for the GBA.

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5 years ago
nikack wrote
Frozencry wrote
Oh yes it does. Have you played Supreme Commander? Have you seen how destructive that game is on a single core processor as opposed to a dual core? Through that perspective, the 360's 3 cores are going to be doing a whole lot less than what Cell will be doing.
Don't make the typical mistake and say the PS3 has eight cores. The SPEs are in no way equal to a normal proccessing core. That being said, going by normality the 360 can run six things simutanously compared to the PS3's two. The PS3 however can run one complex thread with seven simplier threads with the other "complex thread" managing the SPEs.

Gooberman will come along and correct me though, I've yet (or probably ever) to get my hands on a PS3 dev kit.
crestfallen - this is what I was trying to say, I was not talking about AI algorithms, that is a separate issue to me and on that one I agree with you
5 years ago
nikack wrote
Frozencry wrote
Oh yes it does. Have you played Supreme Commander? Have you seen how destructive that game is on a single core processor as opposed to a dual core? Through that perspective, the 360's 3 cores are going to be doing a whole lot less than what Cell will be doing.
Don't make the typical mistake and say the PS3 has eight cores. The SPEs are in no way equal to a normal proccessing core. That being said, going by normality the 360 can run six things simutanously compared to the PS3's two. The PS3 however can run one complex thread with seven simplier threads with the other "complex thread" managing the SPEs.

Gooberman will come along and correct me though, I've yet (or probably ever) to get my hands on a PS3 dev kit.
Yeah, hence me not saying that the Cell just had 8 cores, as it may seem it, but to my knowledge is radically different to a multi core processor.
5 years ago
renegadesx wrote
Which brings me to my point that this quote is full of it. I don't think you can honestly get a right answer to which is the best hardware/console, just your personal preference.
Ouch, that hurts. I think you can easily get the best hardware, it depends on what you're looking for.
5 years ago
Ellegarden wrote
renegadesx wrote
Which brings me to my point that this quote is full of it. I don't think you can honestly get a right answer to which is the best hardware/console, just your personal preference.
Ouch, that hurts. I think you can easily get the best hardware, it depends on what you're looking for.
I am not saying anyone in this forum is full of it. I respect everybody here (even to a point I even respected Ugh). Your thought on "depending what you're looking for" is true which is why my first choice was the Wii. Hourses for courses. As far as producing the best graphics and AI etc, I think in the end the 360 and PS3 are on par with eachother and will both very pretty looks and bots that potentially could outsmart you.

All 3 consoles have their strengths and weaknesses.

Sonys weaknessess are managment and price, their strengths is loyal fanbase, great visual and AI capabilities and Home which like the upcoming Mii channel, has potential to be a MySpace killer (fingers crossed).

Microsoft's weaknesses are that there is an overflooding of certain genres and has a terrible Eastern world library. Their strengths are the same as Sony, just replace Home with Live

Nintendo's weaknesses is they don't like to play that well with others and lacking in visual capabilities. Their strengths are VC, 1st party franchises, innovation and the non-gamer approach
5 years ago
If the power of any console every makes any developer go "Wow" They must be a bit simple, Im sure they know how much more superior PC hardware is to console hardware.
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