Final Fantasy XIII to look dead good

PS3 News | Graphics similar to Advent Children, says director.

Square-Enix certainly likes its eye candy, a fact further underlined by the latest quotes from Final Fantasy XIII director Motomu Toriyama. Speaking to Dengeki Online, Toriyama announced that he wanted the fight scenes in the forthcoming RPG, which will appear on the PlayStation 3, to visually match the ones in Final Fantasy VII Advent Children, the computer-generated film released last year.

"FFXIII attempts to see how far it's possible to make FFVII Advent Children's battles into a game," said Toriyama. "FFVII Advent Children is a video production, and it showed us battles that have not been achievable in FF so far. With FFXIII, we're focusing on how far we can realise the video." Final Fantasy XIII was shown off at Sony's E3 conference last month, and Toriyama also confirmed to Dengeki that Square-Enix would have a playable demo of the title ready for E3 next year.

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39 Comments

LeonJ

5 years ago

ObsoletE wrote

leonmc wrote

God I hate the word fanboy and people accusing each other of being one.

Antifanboy-fanboy

Ha, yeah that's about right I think

Jellyfish

5 years ago

I think Square Enix could possibly pull this off, but if they do the game won't be out until the next consoles are approaching the horizon. This is where Blu-Ray will help with games, I reckon they'll go back to turn based gameplay and have each move as a prerendered video that's loaded onto the HDD when you boot the game (to save on load times).

ugh the boot

5 years ago

The funny thing is that in that FFXIII trailer you can see the transition from the FMV to the in-game graphics.....sooo how do you explain this? I can understand if the whole trailer was in the same type of style....but why would they do this cuz the masses just wouldn't know any better correct?! Previous false promises have had FMV and it was easy to tell this....but during the FFXIII trailer you can see there are textured polygons in there. That's the only reason I think that this game will look amazing.

I have a good feeling after a couple of years of development you will see the ps3 start to eclipse anything that is possible on the xbox360. It will take time for the developers to exploit the hardware....but the horse power is there.

Jellyfish

5 years ago

^ It's easier to render a scene with 5 characters standing idly then it is to render a fight scene between multiple characters with explosions and what not going on. I believe they could do it without a really noticeable transition and make it look real good.

Daniel_Rehn

5 years ago

Oh my lord,lord lordy!!!!!

One day Im gonna find a forum which has no silly "pro this/that system" stuff written in anything !! I literrally almost cry when I read some of these responses to such bold claims.

Look guys, the PS3s graphics chip is actually an ever-so slightly dated PC graphics card which has been just slightly tweaked to try to work well with the hardware. It was already finalised along time ago !!! FACT!!!

The XBOX 360 GPU is a custom designed pocket rocket. It has so many new ways of throwing pixels out to your screen it just boggles the mind. It is a whole new way of looking at things - not just metaphors, huh??

Dont , please dont, get me wrong, I know that the PS3 will be able to do stunning graphics, but in all honesty - and I am quite in the know, (NOT BOASTING AT ALL !!!! ) it will NOT be doing anything that the XBOX 360 CANT !!! It will utilize more GPU/CPU interfacing than the XBOX 360 will to achieve this, meaning that there WILL be a substantial amount of software used to pull this off. BUT I AM NOT DISSING THE PS3 AT ALL!!! It has the power to do this.
The clock speed of the PS3 GPU is ONLY (apparently) 50mhz faster. IN THE REAL WORLD this is NOTHING. And to all you so called fanboys ( gezze I REALLY HATE THAT TERM ) the overall speed of the PS3 is the SAME as the XBOX 360!!! 3.2 GHz !!! IT DOESNT HAVE 7 CPUS! Geeze
man, please please EDUCATE YOURSELFS !!!! It aint hard to do.

AND FINALLY !!! This WHOLE notion of CG matched realtime play graphics is all HOGWASH !!! THATS FOR the XBOX 360 and PS3 !!!
It will NOT be attained in this generation, and even the next. It can only try to look as sweet. DOES ANYONE EVEN KNOW that even on the highest end power house PCS, and Im talking way out of the leauge of the home PC, it can still take up to THREE MINUTES to render a single FRAME. I think people dont fully understand, even now, what pre-rendered CG IS !! IT is just the same as frame/frame hand painting - just taken to the next level !!!. THE MOVIES ARE NOT REALTIME !!!!! The games will look lovely if they can achieve something like this, but please, all of you, technology improves all the time. Consoles, believe it or not, are NOT the pinacle of high end performance. If they go up in specs, you better belive that inhouse production studios systems have gone up 5x !!!

But to tell the truth guys, what I find very very disheartening out of all this is that it is not the bold claims, yet again we see another "exclusive" alliance with the Sony boys - at least for now. This whole "exclusive" thing is really starting to get me very depressed. I am not against Sony in any reagards at all to their game systems. YES I have ps1/ps2/xbox and xbox 360. All systems are excellent for what the want(ed)to do, but more and more now I am starting to see certain so called developers aligning them selves to Sony as if they are an in house development studio. Surely, in the long (and short) term, this truly cant be good for the people that just love their games.

Does this not beg one to ask the tough questions, such as what the hell is Sony doing right/Microsft is doing wrong/ or vice-versa ??? Please no responses such as Sony just threatens developers or Microsoft just sucks - no rubbish please !!!

I understand certain must have buys for certain consoles, ie one off titles or trilogies etc, but to maintain an entire franchise of sorts, and off shoots, to only one company, I cant help but feel a little bit ripped off, considering that in all reality there is nothing seperating the TWO MAJOR players in this so-called next-gen war. I really wish it wasnt a war guys !!! Why cant we/they just get on in peace ?!?!?!
Anyways guys, take it easy.
Daniel

ugh the boot

5 years ago

Man I don't even like Final Fantasy...infact I think it's rubbish but after seeing what I saw....i think it's possible. Also nearly all the 'supposed' in-game footage I have seen of Ps3 software is as good as if not better than the 360 stuff. What I haven't seen on the Ps3 is crappy ports like Quake 4, or Gun, or Tony Hawk!

And who's to say FMV has to look THAT good! You do realise Playstation 1 games had FMV and i have heaps of games at the moment where in-game graphics s*** all over those ps1 fmv sequences!

If you talking about rendering to the detail of saayyy the lion from the movie The Chronicles of Narnia....then I can understand.....but I think it's definately possible. Hell the graphics in Gears of War look as good as God of War FMV if not better!

No way am I a fan boy. I've got the ps2, xbox, gamecube, gameboy advance, xbox 360, ds lite and a psp (not to mention all the consoles etc that came before)....so I don't prefer one brand over the other....but the prrof is in the pudding. Sony would have to be really stupid to only have shown FMV of all their games up untill this point....and judging by the results of the last console war....I don't think they are.

Cerebral

5 years ago

ugh the boot wrote

What I haven't seen on the Ps3 is crappy ports like Quake 4, or Gun, or Tony Hawk!

Fault of the publisher (Activision) not the hardware. The 360 could maul those games and you know it.

Daniel_Rehn

5 years ago

Yes, I will admit, as much as I like Quake 4, Raven Software really let the team( EVERYONE) down with that sloppy port. I think even the dudes in Alfa Centauri know that !!

But please dont EVER EVER EVER mention that devil-child combo of Gun/Tony Hawk ever again. Just the thought alone makes me sick. Lets just all start a fresh and be friends !!

Im well aware of FMV. Its just, well, what I am trying to say now, as I have in the past - at alot of sites, is that I feel strongly now that the presentation of games now with the new hardware should move away from this sort of thing. There are many fine examples of this, using various engines, that perform a majority of this with excellent results. I will say Halo2, just because it was on a previous gen system, but managed to do it very nicely. If anyone would like to see some of what I am trying to talk about, go have a look at the way that Eden Games is working on Alone In The Dark. That is what I think game devs should be going to in direction of in game sequences etc.

But you see, even the (nice)demos at E3 for the PS3 were running on PCs, not final specs of the PS3. Im not gonna start talking BS and say remember the KillZone 2 trailer.So nothing is a true indicator on that regards. There was infact a VERY strong rumour going around that a certain PS3 / UbiSoft game was running on an Xbox 360 !! But Ill let the detectives free on that one !!

It is just that silly claims - even in their infancy- get snapped up straight away as fact - then taken as gospel. I am not against this idea at all !! I believe that every one should learn from other's (some times huge) mistakes and strive for maximum presentation - without the exclusion of the actual player. I feel this is possible, but I just cant stand audacious comments. I think its high time that these companies start giving a little bit of respect to the minds/intelligence of their consumers and stop trying to "WOW" us with what just ammounts to be "mine is bigger than yours" talk. I am actually REALLY looking forward to the PS3 !!

I just feel that Sony dont need to push it like its Gods gift to gaming/everything. I hope it sells purely on the merits of what it strives to do and not a load of BS.
As I did say previously, this is not the issue that concerns me the most. So, even though I might have come across as a bit slack/daft, I do apologise if I didnt, and still havent, got what Im trying to get across.
See ya later!
Daniel.

Sin Ogaris

5 years ago

I can't remember who said it because I can't be arsed going back to page 1, but I agree with the person who said it could have more to do with making more animated battles rather than Final Fantasy's rather static/stale ensembles we've seen in the past. Which has more to do with animation and the style of play rather than pure texture work and polygon counts.

ugh the boot

5 years ago

hey i'm not trying to have a go....but if the xbox 360 is so powerful....why do developers have to struggle to get simple games like quake 4 to run well!??!

At the moment all we have on the Sony machine is speculation....and judging strictly from what i've seen the ps3 games seem to have better graphics than the 360.

Infact the only 360 games i've seen where i've been impressed with the graphics are Dead or Alive 4 and Gears of War.

Yea I know Gun and Town Hawk are crap but it's still part of the xbox 360 library. You can't pick and choose the stuff you like and don't like.

EDIT: Also i'd like to mention I didn't even read the article but I saw some gameplay/fmv footage at a mate's place a couple of nights ago (FFXII).

Look at Project Offset. Is that FMV or in-game? Cuz those graphics are incredible and that's seems to be running on current tech so I don't see why graphics like that aren't possible this gen.....sony or microsoft.

LeonJ

5 years ago

I hope your right Ugh, but I do believe this generation will not have the power to pump out raw almost FFVII:AV CG graphic in game. Perhaps "REAL-TIME" movies is possible (ala MGS style), but not actually gamplay.

360 is powerful yes, but I have no gone to the point where I could not believe what I was seeing (ala Mario 64).

Infested Jibbs

5 years ago

Haha yeah^'

When i first had the 64 hooked up, and the tv finally tuned in(through rf/antenna >_<) and i saw mario running around thwomps fortress(one of the quick game demos that runs when you leave the controller alone for awhile)........i was in total awe.

I'd liken it to how some people would have reacted to seeing colour for the first time after black and white movies were the norm.Nothing since then has given me that same experience, from now on games will be incremental increases in grpahical quality, a few million more polygons over here, a few more high res textures over there, but their will be no more quantum leaps in graphics ala snes mario->mario 64.

Quin

5 years ago

FFXIII? Don't give two **** about it until I have much more concrete information about it. I'm just fine with FFXII as it is.

Cerebral

5 years ago

ugh the boot wrote

Yea I know Gun and Town Hawk are crap but it's still part of the xbox 360 library. You can't pick and choose the stuff you like and don't like.

I think you're missing the point. If the PS3 launched alongside the X360, you would see those two games on the PS3 as well, minor graphical upgrade and all. Your point was that the stuff you saw on the PS3 was better than the stuff you see on the 360, and use Gun and Tony Hawk as an example. They're poor ports, through and through, and do the 360 a great disservice.

ugh the boot

5 years ago

Not just Gun and Tony Hawk, how about Call of Duty 2, Perfect Dark Zero, Battlefield: Modern Combat and Full Auto, .....all these games look rubbish and these are supposed to be system sellers! And look at Oblivion....so chock full of bugs I had to stop playing it in fear i was gonna smash my console/controller if it happened again! Dead or Alive 4 one of the best looking but still incredibly unbalanced fighters i've ever played! I can't wait till Tekken 6 comes out along with Virtua Fighter 5....and ohh...looks like we might only be able to play those on Ps3. What about Soul Calibur 4?! Again....might be Sony exclusive.

Yea sure we'd probably see some of those games on the Ps3, but simple fact....they're not on the Ps3 and most of the Ps3 games look better than the Xbox 360 games (which is the point I was trying to make earlier).

Quite simply there is not a single game in the Xbox 360 library at the moment that is a 'must-have' title.....including Oblivion cuz the Pc version is (again) superior. At least i'm not gonna buy a Ps3 and go "Oh that sux, some is probably playing a sweeter version of this as we speak!".

I'm not trying to bag the 360 or to praise the Ps3....all i'm saying is 'from what i've seen'....to me the playstation visuals appear to be nicer.

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