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Anthony Capone
11 Aug, 2008

Fallout 3 passes classification

PS3 News | Post-apocalyptic title rated MA 15+.
The Australian Office of Film and Literature Classification has officially classified Fallout 3. Bethesda's anticipated role-playing game has earned a MA 15+ rating.

The OFLC's additional consumer advice for Fallout 3 includes strong violence, drug references and coarse language.

After Bethesda's RPG was refused classification by the OFLC last month, it was unclear whether the post-apocalyptic title would ever make it to Australia. But last Monday, it was reported that game retailers had been informed an edited version of Fallout 3 would be making its way onto store shelves. Those rumours appear to have been correct.

It is not yet fully clear what modifications have been made to the Australian version of Fallout 3. Any edits, however, will have addressed the issues in the OFLC's last report, which refused the game classification.

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58 Comments
1 year ago
franky573 wrote
...But you realise that if everyone imported it would be the death of the Australian games industry?

Companies need to see australian sales charts to know we're worth putting there effort into.
Serves them right for overcharging. If they want to be competitive here, they should sell for reasonably the same price as they do overseas (reducing the need to import). If they dont like it, drop their prices,
They want it both ways

Stuff em, import!

And if Fallout 3 doesn't sell to well? Developers and publishers know its the laws not the game.
1 year ago
Tossing up whether to get it on PC or 360. Hope there's a demo so I can at least gauge how well it runs on my rig (though for some reason I doubt it).

Worse comes to worst, if I was to choose between graphical performance or a renamed/removed item for classification reasons, I'd take the latter - gotta play the game as it was intended, after all.
1 year ago
This anti import talk is stupid. I import because it's cheaper - there's no way you could convince me to spend $20 more in retail just because I'm 'doing my little part to help the local industry'. This isn't a matter of a few dollars, the cost difference is usually quite significant.

Regardless of if this was censored or not, I was going to import either the PC or 360 version from Play-Asia. Probably the 360 version judging by the quality of Bethesda's port of Oblivion (since Oblivion and Fallout 3 use the same engine).

Even taking into account censorship, I'm not sure that I care if all they've done is changed the word 'morphine' to 'pain go away yay rainbows'. Also on the censorship note, I think simply bringing in an R18+ rating is going to make things worse. We need an overhaul of the entire system - games need to be brought in line with movies. You're only going to give games a niche appeal if suddenly a lot of the high profile titles start getting R18+ ratings. We need to take the best bits of PEGI and the ESRB..
1 year ago
Its gotta be more than just a renamed object surely. Wasn't one of the main reasons it got banned because he got addicted to one of the power-up and the fact that they were injected?

Anyway, it doesn't worry me. I'll be walking down to my local Canadian EB and pre-ordering the limited edition without it being edited.
1 year ago
I see it as the changes will be in renaming morphine and the removal of the visual "injection" of drugs. Possibly even the images in the inventory as well (as it was noted in the OFLC's report).
1 year ago
all this pricing debate/import discussion. eg amazon.com. (expensive postage aside for videogames) - say... our american gaming equivalent can purchase a bunch of really awesome titles on PS3 @ about $19.99 usd each. Once you hit $25 on amazon.com if you're in the US, you also qualify for shipping. I have these on my cart but I'm hesistant because of shipping but:

all same price all ps3
DARKNESS PS3 $19.99 usd
DARK SECTOR
TONYHAWK project 8
VF5
and the bluray remote is $19.99 too.

american gamers have it so much better. Its so cheap. Our 2nd hand games are about $44? Game developers make no money on these. For that price, you can get a brand new title (or close enough) from playasia (with $10 off $50 coupon).

what's the point in my post? Just price wise, the australian market is SO uncompetitive and the reason being: greedy distributors - jbhifi has shown again and again that they can push prices down. I love them for that and buy most of my games from them (local). screw eb and their $110 pricetags. If someone can send me an AMERICAN IMPORT from asia and it still ends up $40ish dollar cheaper than it is at retail here.. I don't see why import isn't the go.

Gamers stretching their dollar out = good. Plus buying these brand new imports still = the developers getting paid. Not some lazy fat cat aussie distributor.
1 year ago
El Taco wrote
Yup, it is region locked.
are you positive about that? playasia has them as question mark on the asian version... meaning they are 'red' but they havnt been tested... icon_sad.gif
1 year ago
I like to know how many of you are going to resort to piracy instead. BitTorrent is excellent because at least you would not have to worry about customs.

You know, I imported two games that are still banned here, but I am rather sneaky about it - importing a second or third game along with it, from the same on-line store. So if they were going to confiscate my banned game, they would also have to confiscate the game that is not banned.
1 year ago
it'd be fine and dandy to say "the changes are minor/cosmetic" if we actually knew that all that was changed was "Morphine" into "Pain-B-Gone" (which would actually fit in well with the Fallout World's "Radaway" medication, in some ways) but the list of reasons why the original version was denied classification is far longer than a simple name.

for all we know, Morphine is still Morphine, it just no longer comes with the injecting animations, or managing addictions.

and remember, another reason it was refused was the use of "Chems" which are essentially buff potions/scrolls that we see in most Computer RPGs, from Fallout to Diablo to WoW, we have potions and elixirs, but since they're "chems" and look like drugs, it was refused -
so what changed?
have they been removed?
have they been changed to scrolls?
is it merely a removal of an animation?
the change that has happened bothers me in various degrees along this list, from a "meh - the effects are still there" to "hmm, scrolls don't fit the setting, but the effects are still there" to "OMG isn't that going to make the game tougher?"

so although GTA4 suffered minor changes that didn't affect the gameplay as intended in any real way (i mean, who here has an uncensored version and visits hookers regularly anyway? mine is uncensored, and i haven't seen one once, since i saw what the Aussie version missed on Youtube.) we can't yet say the same for Fallout 3.
it might be cosmetic, it might be game-breaking.

the other issue i see is that Rockstar were pro-active about their censorship. the foresaw an issue and chose to deal with it pre-release, whereas Bethesda's changes seem to be reactive. who knows how much QCing has gone into making sure our small market's version actually works as intended?

and so - i preordered from overseas because the local release was in doubt - i'm keeping that pre-order because i don't believe the changes can be as cosmetic as the GTA4 changes were.
1 year ago
Bethesda strike me as a company that would give themselves pain to bring a satisfactory version of the game to all audiences.
1 year ago
franky573 wrote
...But you realise that if everyone imported it would be the death of the Australian games industry?

Companies need to see australian sales charts to know we're worth putting there effort into.
We make up sweet didly squat of the market share, companies would be seeing the Nth American Continent sales, the Asian sales, the European sales and make decisions based on those, Oceania is highly neglected considering our product is European. Death of the industry? maybe if the industry was beyond importing product from Austria to begin with.

The sales are already skewed as it is considering the early "mixup" with downloadable games at their US price before an Aussie revision for severely undercutting the market and "anti competitive behaviour" when we all know the anti competitive aspect was the outcry that they could provide it at a lower price point and were forced to double their price.

The industry isn't even off the ground for distribution or else we'd have our own localisers so that we didn't then need the European languages.

The problem is that stores and sites dealing specifically with importing have no desire to track imports from regions so that anyone can see just how much product is lost from the local sellers. For all anyone knows we could only be losing .5% of total product to importing and who'd be screaming about the death of an industry if it was that?
1 year ago
For the game to be pass classification so quickly it does suggest that not much has changed. It was confirmed that the drug reference was the reason for the ban correct? So I would assume that the Aussie verison will just have that changed. This close to development ending and with the game dated I can't see them changing any of the gameplay.

I'll be getting to local verison, but like GTAIV, I'm not really a hardcore fan of the series and if it's missing a drug reference or a sex scene it doesn't really bother me. Having said that if they take out the exploding bodies (which is so cool in the demos I've seen) then it might become an issue for me.

This stuff is rather funny though and is completety not consistent. I was playing NG2 last night. Man, I have no idea how that got past that got a MA15+ ONLY rating. I think it is probably one of the most bloody games I've played.
1 year ago
I'll be importing a european version.

I honestly don't see a good reason to support our local industry, what are they doing to help me? Overcharging games?

Yeah, **** em.
1 year ago
There's a region free version now?
1 year ago
Deus Sceleris wrote
There's a region free version now?
I'm not aware that the 360 US NTSC version has been confirmed as region locked yet.

Even if it is, the European PAL version will work in Australian consoles.
1 year ago
on ps3 and pc yes, 360, probably not, although, if i was bethesda i would unlock it on all versions just to give this country the **** and to point out how retarded we are tyring to block games in a world market, coz we is dumb, i know i have been looking for morphine since i heard it was in a game.
1 year ago
It shouldn't be too hard to find a PAL XB360 version online, if not on an online store then they will be on ebay!
1 year ago
I plan to import but I want to get hold of the special edition crap, the Pipboy bobblehead, lunchbox etc. Don't ask me why. I'm thinking that I'll do what I did for GTAIV, get the Special Edition here, trade in the Aus copy and import the uncensored version. My problem is that while EB's website claims to be getting the lunchbox/bobblehead collector's edition, the fact that NZ are getting an (arguably) gimped version makes me wonder if we'll end up with the same. NZ are getting a Brotherhood of Steel figure, a keyring and some cards or something.
1 year ago
I'm hoping to grab a special edition on PC. Off eBay or something..

I want to play it as it was intended to be, and since it means i'll be getting the game cheaper.

I say go for it.
1 year ago
Toastfarmer wrote
I plan to import but I want to get hold of the special edition crap, the Pipboy bobblehead, lunchbox etc. Don't ask me why. I'm thinking that I'll do what I did for GTAIV, get the Special Edition here, trade in the Aus copy and import the uncensored version. My problem is that while EB's website claims to be getting the lunchbox/bobblehead collector's edition, the fact that NZ are getting an (arguably) gimped version makes me wonder if we'll end up with the same. NZ are getting a Brotherhood of Steel figure, a keyring and some cards or something.
I *think* in Aus EB Games exclusively has the proper Collectors Edition, everywhere else has the "poor-mans" Collectors Edition.

Unless this has changed since the whole OFLC debacle.
1 year ago
*sigh* Are we still of the opinion that Australian gamers get ripped off on price? It only looks that way because of the currently high value of the Aussie dollar against the greenback. It's about buying power, not raw currency conversion. Go back 5 or 10 years and local prices vs the cost of importing were damn near equal, so now because the Australian dollar is strong you want all the local guys to halve prices? Bull****
1 year ago
it's not a high Aussie Dollar, but rather a weak US dollar - compare the AUD against the GBP and it's still roughly the same as it has been for years.

we are getting ripped off relative to the US market because despite their tumbling economy, they are still paying the same as they always were in pure dollar terms - meaning those of us in AUD, GBP and EURO land are subsidising their market.
1 year ago
Snixtor wrote
*sigh* Are we still of the opinion that Australian gamers get ripped off on price?
Yes, I certainly am. In a world market, it's my right as a consumer to buy a product from the most competitive location.

One of the excuses given by the publishers is that 'Australia is tied to Europe'. This is a problem with their business model and not our concern as a consumer. If an individual consumer can get one single game all the way across the world cheaper than the publisher can on mass, something is broken. So much for buying power!

The only real legitimate consideration when comparing prices is the GST - by purchasing from overseas, you are avoiding this. Anything past this difference is cause for scepticism.

I think it is important to remember that region locking has nothing to do with copy protection. Nothing. It's 100% about controlling markets.
1 year ago
ObsoletE wrote
it's not a high Aussie Dollar, but rather a weak US dollar - compare the AUD against the GBP and it's still roughly the same as it has been for years.
Very true actually, we've been stuck around the 40p per dollar mark for a long time, which puts the cost of importing games from the UK very nearly equal to buying them locally.

I don't really think any of us are getting ripped off. Just that anybody who earns their money in anything other than US dollars can get a better deal from importing from the US.
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Australian Release Date:
  31/10/2008 (Confirmed)
Standard Retail Price:
  $109.95 AU
Publisher:
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Genre:
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Year Made:
  2008

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