Motorbikes coming to Burnout Paradise

Don’t worry, these sentiments are echoed by 90% of the original fanbase. Don’t let insignificant people tell you your opinion “isn’t right”. Good post – I completely agree.

And I’m not sold on bikes. There’s definitely potential if implemented well... kinda like open-world. Night time racing would be fun, providing the game was. Again, some really easy fixes would change my outlook here, but I won’t hold my breath.

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Okay, I’m gonna pretend that comprehension is the issue here and that you truly misunderstood me. Although, it’s funny that you would interpret my post that way... it speaks volumes. Not once have I quoted or referred to anyone in these topics regarding their opinions on the game, yet this is the second time you’ve felt the need to enforce just how wrong I must be in disliking it.

My words were - following the full stop - “Don’t let insignificant people tell you your opinion “isn’t right”, full stop. Who commented on drinniol’s post, in similar cynical fashion for a second time in as many topics? You made your own premature assumptions. Thorough reading and assessment of the situation next time will prevent future mistakes. If it wasn’t obvious enough, I was referring to Brad and his invaluable contribution to such topics:

http://palgn.com.au/viewtopic.php?t=26108

If you had managed to pick up on that (which unfortunately, and rather predictably, you didn’t) you’d see there was no direct link between the two. Both sentences were a reflection of Brad’s posts. I have nothing against people who like Paradise, nor do I think any less of their opinions. Clear enough?

Now, to insult someone due to a difference of opinion? Well, now that would be trolling, my hypocritical mod. And yes, I’m also referring to those who chose to plus... which, as it so happens, includes you, Nismo, along with the particular mod who feels I’m “trolling”! A gif tells a thousand words. It’s funny how I’m the one in the wrong here, when I’m the only one out of the 4 who didn’t attack another’s opinion...

Which brings me to my love for this attitude of yours. So what you’re saying is that it’s not cool to state an opinion if it isn’t in a positive fashion? So what are discussion forums for, then? Why do you come into every Paradise topic sprouting the same generic crap every time? I don’t care how good you think Criterion are or how sweet you think added areas will be, but do you hear me telling you to shut up? Again – discussion forum – a place for discussion – good or bad. Just for the record, this is the second Paradise topic I’ve expressed my views in...

Also, people who contribute (I use the term loosely) aren’t the only ones using the forums. The reason I’ve posted my views more than once is that I feel strongly about the game and feel that anyone thinking about buying it needs the full story. Lurkers (or even forumites) may not hit every topic, therefore I wanna make sure that my views are represented, and hopefully prevent others on the fence from making the same mistake I did. Many will buy Paradise based on previous installments (just like I did) – I want them to have the full story.

Your opinion is better than mine, how? As a current-gen racer, I’d say it’s somewhere at the bottom of the pile, and I would strongly recommend anyone looking for one to look elsewhere. My main criticism with Paradise is in the racing and how easy it is to miss a turn (thanks to no dedicated path) and, in that split second, the race is over. After you’re done swearing, you’ll need to manually drive all the way back to the very intersection you started from (thanks to no restart feature) to go again. If you think that’s good game design, then that’s a pretty “interesting” opinion you have.

So I’m stupid because I don’t like it..? Let me make this clear, once and for all, because that selective memory of yours seems to be hindering progress. The racing portion of Paradise is my only real problem with the game. Considering that it’s a huge part of the game, it makes it difficult to like as an overall product. A restart feature and a dedicated path are equally essential, must-have features in a game like this in order to limit frustration. Simply put, the racing aspect of Burnout Paradise is appalling. No structure in an open-world racer as fast paced as this is blind stupidity! It can take multiple attempts at a single race in order to make it to the other end and not get lost. Then there are all the trips back to the exact intersection and before you know it, you’ve spent half an hour on a single race! Then we find race no.2...

This isn’t the arcade racer I know and love. The emphasis has shifted and the transition hasn’t been all that smooth. I’m open minded – I just feel that the change made to open-world hasn’t been made successfully, so much so that it severely detracts from the amount of fun to be had – especially for those looking for more Burnout. For me (and every single person I’ve spoken to – yes, every-single-one!), spending weeks learning the map just isn’t fun. Again, this isn’t what Burnout is meant to be – accessible, instant gratification, non-stop racing action.

Oh, and I find Showtime to be an extremely poor excuse for Crash mode. The lack of any 2 player option (other than online) also irks me.

Clearly we don’t agree on the game, but you’ve gone out of your way to suggest the problem lies on my end, and imply that I suck at it. You’re the one who needs to cut the ****! Stop acting like you’re some completely innocent spokesperson doing his part to clean up the forum, dictating what can or cannot be said. Say what you wanna say, but at the same time allow others to do the same – regardless of stance. The reason PALGN is a cool place is because there are very few who trample on voices.

Who’s “we”? There you go again.

I post my opinions multiple times for the same reasons you do – to be heard. I feel strongly about this and feel that both sides need to be heard, not just the overwhelming praise it continually gets from the same people like yourself. I post because I have a glimmer of hope that it’ll make a difference. I post to let those unaware of the problems know what they’re buying. Good enough? Obviously not.

Hopefully this answers your questions and clears things up. Next time, address the topic at hand rather than taking me out of context. Cheers.

Gimme a break!

Trolling? So because you don’t agree with it, it’s trolling? Could I get your definition of the word, as I think it’s something you like to throw around when people don’t see things your way? Your post stinks of opinion with a sever lack of anything but, yet you pass judgment without hesitation?

Not a fan of the series? I’m a fan of good games. I love the games that came before Paradise. I don’t like Paradise (for more reason than you care to mention). Hope this helps.

Yeah, I’ll also apologise for taking this slightly off-topic. It’s difficult though, I didn’t want my post labeling me something I’m not - I wanted to “clear my name”, if you will. Again, I would never have posted if Brad hadn’t done so in such a way (for the second time in a row), so I can understand where you’re coming from, as it was knee-jerk for me too. It’s clear that 90% wasn’t taken from statistics.com - it was more of an inflated reassurance measure for drinniol, as his opinion was made to feel less than acceptable (just like mine was in the previous topic). Also, I truly believe that the more people complain about these missing features, the more chance there is of Criterion making them available in an upcoming patch. I really do want to like this game.

Either way, I hold no grudges – we agree to disagree. It’s all good.