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14 Feb, 2008

PS3 sells faster than Xbox 360 during 2007 in Australia

PS3 News | Install base now 190,000.
The PlayStation 3 sold quicker than the Xbox 360 in 2007, according to a report in the Sydney Morning Herald.

According to the article, the install base for the PlayStation 3 in Australia is now 190,000, but this includes the 30,000 consoles that Sony gave away with purchases of a Sony Bravia TV, figures not included in tracked sales figures. However, even without these redemptions the PlayStation 3 outsold the Xbox 360 in Australia in 2007.

"If you stack us up against the competition, Blu-ray sticks out as one differentiator but the games will also start showing what PS3 can do this year," says SCE managing director Michael Ephraim. "And we'll bring the price down as soon as the manufacturing cost comes down. The PlayStation brand for calendar 2007 made up 43% of the total market. So the brand is very healthy."

Update - it has been revealed that contrary to the original article's implication, the Xbox 360 actually outsold the PS3 in Australia in 2007, shifting 159,000 consoles to the PS3s 155,000. However, the Xbox 360 figures cover the whole year, while the PS3 was launched in March. Specific Wii sales figures have not been released, but Nintendo's console outsold both of its next-gen rivals.

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51 Comments
4 years ago
evil_kenshin wrote
and also its not just Sony doing it, Nintendo & Microsoft screw Pal gamers over all the time (though Australia has it worse than Europe)
While I wholeheartedly agree on the Nintendo call, there is no way you can put Microsoft in that same boat. If you were to check out release dates for games across the whole current generation Microsoft's dates are ALWAYS faster, always the same version/never worse than the NTSC versions. I could name a few games a month that are screwed over on PAL by Sony and Nintendo but with Microsoft it's not an issue. Games are released here same week 99% of the time - sometimes days earlier.

XBL is almost always the same day worldwide while the PSN often takes months (Everyday Shooter, Pain, etc.).
4 years ago
ppjim3 wrote
evil_kenshin wrote
and also its not just Sony doing it, Nintendo & Microsoft screw Pal gamers over all the time (though Australia has it worse than Europe)
While I wholeheartedly agree on the Nintendo call, there is no way you can put Microsoft in that same boat. If you were to check out release dates for games across the whole current generation Microsoft's dates are ALWAYS faster, always the same version/never worse than the NTSC versions. I could name a few games a month that are screwed over on PAL by Sony and Nintendo but with Microsoft it's not an issue. Games are released here same week 99% of the time - sometimes days earlier.

XBL is almost always the same day worldwide while the PSN often takes months (Everyday Shooter, Pain, etc.).
prehaps your right; i'll give them credit for back peddling on the whole no ninja gaiden black thing for Australia (thought that was only after complaints i suspect)
4 years ago
Theory is exactly right in his evaluation. The majority have been waiting for the PS3 to upgrade their PS2s. Hell, I don't promote the 360 at work at all. I sell plenty of PS3s and can't keep up with the Wii. Although I guess by now the majority that wanted 360s have one.

The only thing selling the 360 is its games library. Halo, Gears and Mass Effect ftw.
4 years ago
cdkane wrote
I also think the HD Format war also played a part in this.

Since Warner sided with bluray we are starting to see the domino effect and people are now confident that they will actually get use out of the blu-ray component in the ps3.
I doubt the Warner siding with Blu-Ray issue had an effect on these sales figures though. I mean, the figures were from last year and Warner never made a statement of exclusivity until 2008... and even just seconds before they made the statement, people thought they were going to announce HD-DVD exclusivity.
4 years ago
LeonJ wrote
I see it as the opposite. Australians seem to go on brand instead of where the games are. The weekly sales charts seem to confirm that Australians really don't have good taste.
While the sales charts do in fact confirm that Australians have poor taste in games, that's hardly evidence to support the claim for brand domination, just that people have poor tastes. Like it or not Microsoft as far as gaming goes are viewed as unreliable, problematic, hazardous, imitation PC's, with the original X-BOX they shot themselves in the foot by the sheer number of exclusives ported to the PC who really didn't have much by way of heft system requirements. Sony, really entered the whole PC port "stuff might happen" this generation as opposed to last with all previous problems having been nutted out in the NTSC regions before PAL regions, so to those individuals Sony is a more reliable company all round (hardware and software).

We forget that these figures are also reflective of the Japanese market and MS' inability to break over there as well, surely you're not about claim that the Japanese also buy totally on brand names because they haven't got on board with the 360?

Australians for the most part I would think, would go with a company that hard the largest game base (the PS2) and the lesser problems in their own region, as opposed to a manufacturer who still haven't given a reliable console in 2 generations, continues to "pride" itself on FPS, Sport & Racing titles (which combats with the PC gamers) who, while they are better with conversions don't ship a complete console to some people (add on to do this, add on to do that, payment to use an online service a competitor gives for free) which may cause other people to wonder if MS actually do even care about the gaming aspect of their consoles.

Your point would be valid if MS was sticking with it's original revision of it's console, since then the games would be for that console and it may then be enough to sway people to stick with the 360. However, targeting a niche market with their main gaming genres, asking for more money once the console is purchased on a constant basis outside of gaming, and actually providing revisions to their console would bode against confidence in their product, because you only revise hardware for 2 reasons;

To increase it's potential
To fix up your previous screw ups

MS have proven to people that it was the latter, would you have confidence in MS if your stock console was basically outdated in months, and that version was then outdated again or would you get enough of it and simply think "Oh it's Microsoft, if the game sells well they'll port it anyway to screw them."

On top of that you have the "future possibilities" that people are banking on with Sony, you can't completely disregard the entire PS1 & PS2 library from peoples minds simply because right at this very moment "the 360 has more games than the PS3" people will be of the opinion that yes, while that is true, the previous generation showed that Sony still could blanket the market.

Anyway, I'm more surprised at the sales of the Wii, I would have thought that more people would have been worried about Nintendo really being the only ones to region encode their games and with some games keep with the half year - year long conversions, I would have though people would have thought a bit on where the buck would stop with their games, so if I had to claim any company was being bought on brand name alone it would probably be Nintendo.

Anyway, I rambled I still own neither of the 3 and plenty of grains of salt to give if you dis/agree with the statement on any basis.
4 years ago
Hey a quick questio here, i think the 40gb PS3 has no backwards compatability but is there any way to soft mod, mod or actually legitly play ps2 games on it?
4 years ago
Fly wrote
LeonJ wrote
I see it as the opposite. Australians seem to go on brand instead of where the games are. The weekly sales charts seem to confirm that Australians really don't have good taste.
Blah blah I hate Microsoft products blah blah I love Linux blah blah I have a Tux penguin on my polo shirt blah blah ...
We get it. You think that nothing Microsoft does is worthwhile, and anything Sony does is pure gold.
4 years ago
cmdwedge wrote
Fly wrote
LeonJ wrote
I see it as the opposite. Australians seem to go on brand instead of where the games are. The weekly sales charts seem to confirm that Australians really don't have good taste.
Blah blah I hate Microsoft products blah blah I love Linux blah blah I have a Tux penguin on my polo shirt blah blah ...
I'm a moron.
Did you read his entire post?

He makes valid points, especially in the trust area of MS, as working at a games store I've seen many being converted to other companies because of the faults of the 360. Their reputation has been hurt severely because of their rush to market to beat Sony.

Topic at hand though: I'm not suprised that Sony are beginning to pick up. They're technically in the same spot that the 360 was in its first year albeit slightly higher, and with competition. Pretty healthy start and 2008 should be much bigger assuming they get their larger AAA titles out.
4 years ago
Jim Dash wrote
The only thing selling the 360 is its games library. Halo, Gears and Mass Effect ftw.
Why else would a console sell then? Do we buy consoles to do anything else but play great games? The only thing keeping Sony alive is its brand. If the table were turned and the 360 was in the PS3's boat, it would be long dead the way of the Dreamcast (which it's failure still hurts me to this day as the console and games simply were awesome off the bat).

It's really fustrating to me that people just 'hate' the 360 for being not Sony product and assume it 'has' to be better. It's where the games and most next gen solution is right now and that's what is important. Everybody goes on about what is coming on the PS3 and how good 'future' games and Home will be. What has Sony given us to actually replay this faith in the last year? Dissapointment after dissapointment that's what. Superior hardware is nothing without games and an awesome online inferstructure.

Kind of pisses me off that you don't promote 'games' instead giving biased advice to your perfered console as a retail clerk. They both certainly have pros and cons.
4 years ago
cmdwedge wrote
I think the backwards compatibilty in my 60GB console if fine, it walks all over the backwards compatibility of it's main competition anyway(360 obviously)
Getting rid of it for the 40GB is always going to be aquestionable decision however it doesn't seem to have impacted sales as much as a lot of doubters thought it would at the time of the announcement.
4 years ago
Cons of PS3 - doesn't come with HDMI cable

Cons of 360 - high failure rate
doesn't come with HDMI cable
need to pay to play online

Leon, I'm not trying to convert people. Its not that they hate the 360 for not being a Sony product, its that they hate it because its a Microsoft product.

The awesome games the 360 has are enough to get a few random buyers. But all families want is a Wii, and males a PS3. Microsoft have their poor track record with the old Xbox and their failure rate to blame.

Those red rings are general knowledge now. Their lack of support for the original Xbox says alot. The majority of consumers cashed in when the 360 was the only option or the PS3 was too expensive. Now its affordable and accessible to many. Who wants to spend their hard earned money on a 360 when the PS3 has so much more potential in all areas. Lifespan of the console? 10+ years. 360? 5? 6?

Like I said anyways, the majority of people that want 360s have them already. PS3 is still building its user base. We're moving amounts daily. I've had one 360 sell this week. They didn't buy an extended warranty. Sucks to be them.
4 years ago
Jim Dash wrote
Cons of PS3 - doesn't come with HDMI cable

Cons of 360 - high failure rate
doesn't come with HDMI cable
need to pay to play online

Leon, I'm not trying to convert people. Its not that they hate the 360 for not being a Sony product, its that they hate it because its a Microsoft product.

The awesome games the 360 has are enough to get a few random buyers. But all families want is a Wii, and males a PS3. Microsoft have their poor track record with the old Xbox and their failure rate to blame.

Those red rings are general knowledge now. Their lack of support for the original Xbox says alot. The majority of consumers cashed in when the 360 was the only option or the PS3 was too expensive. Now its affordable and accessible to many. Who wants to spend their hard earned money on a 360 when the PS3 has so much more potential in all areas. Lifespan of the console? 10+ years. 360? 5? 6?

Like I said anyways, the majority of people that want 360s have them already. PS3 is still building its user base. We're moving amounts daily. I've had one 360 sell this week. They didn't buy an extended warranty. Sucks to be them.
You have to be bloody kidding me. The only con you can come up with is that the PS3 lacks a HDMI cable?

Ladies and gentlemen, this, THIS is the definition of a fanboy.

Here's a couple of others worth mentioning for the PS3 - perhaps you just overlooked them?

Price ($1000 on release, now $700 for a completely gutted PS3).
Mammoth price disparity between the US and Australia/Europe.
Even larger gap between Japan and the rest of the world.
Lack of rumble in the controllers in all regions besides Japan.
Lack of games.
Lack of awesome exclusives.
It's really just for making BRD dominant, at this stage.
It's a very Japan-centric console. Every other territory, ESPECIALLY PAL territories, is second place to Japan.

And to be absolutely fair, here's what I don't like about the 360.

Small HDD, and it's expensive to upgrade.
Too loud.
Too many failures. More than 1% is too many in my books. Fortunately, I've not had any problems.
Though it doesn't bother me, inbuilt wireless would have been nice.
Frankly, it really should have come with HD-DVD built in.

I'd put having to pay for Xbox Live GOLD (note: Silver is free) a positive. It keeps idiots from jumping into a game, TK'ing everyone, getting banned, then just starting another account.

God **** damnit I hate fanboys.

Note: I'll glady buy a PS3 when they trot out a game that I cannot get on 360, and absolutely must have. GT1 on the PS1 got me sucked in, and GTA3 on the PS2 got me there. Not sure what made me buy my two PSPs (one for me, one for fiance) but I'm glad I did, I really like it. Jean d'Arc is great!

Oh and one last thing - I couldn't believe it when my fanboy workmate told me (sheepishly) that you couldn't pause a game, then message a friend, then pop back into the game. You know, like the 360 has been able to do since launch. Whilst it might be 'coming soon' it seems pretty simple to implement and surprising that it wasn't there in firmware 1.0.
4 years ago
Jim Dash wrote
Lifespan of the console? 10+ years.
lol no

To be fair though if the 360 actually makes it to 5/6 I'd be amazed too.
4 years ago
cmdwedge wrote
Lack of games.
Lack of awesome exclusives.
'Scuse me? I don't recall the 360 having better launch line-up of games compared to the PS3. The PS3 is still young. You can't go on a lack of games rant like that when you compare it to a console that's in its what... 3rd year now? We're still waiting for the 2nd gen PS3 games to come out just like when the 360 started to get its really good games.


cmdwedge wrote
Oh and one last thing - I couldn't believe it when my fanboy workmate told me (sheepishly) that you couldn't pause a game, then message a friend, then pop back into the game. You know, like the 360 has been able to do since launch. Whilst it might be 'coming soon' it seems pretty simple to implement and surprising that it wasn't there in firmware 1.0.
Well, yes a negative for the PS3 but developers can still make it possible for people to send messages during gameplay. In Kane & Lynch you can send messages, access the friends list etc even while you're playing online, in an actual game.

Like when there's 2 guys left and everyone else has died, I can send the dude a message while he's still playing saying something like "Are you ready for a DOG **** TACO?!? w00000t!!!"
4 years ago
i believe the major problem 360 had was that microsoft didn't want to release it near the ps3 else they wouldn't have sold as much, in my opinion. And also it seems as though the first gen of 360s were just a bunch of old computer parts thrown together, think about it it was definitely the first couple thousand 360s that had the most problems, im talking about RRoD and so on.

don't get me wrong i think the 360 is better now, the elite is amazing but, it started out bad and has risen, were as the PS3 has been at a constant high level with very little issues arising. The 360 had a lot going for it at the start, Halo 3, Gears of War, and fantastic online capabilities. But now that the PS3 gets almost all the games the 360 gets and then more PS3 exclusive ones, with TV Play or whatever coming out and with the online capabilities of the PS3 getting increasingly better i'm not surprised it is outselling the 360.
4 years ago
Potential is not something I look to in technology. It's irrelevant.

The PS3 will not be the PS2. The playing field is different now. Microsoft and Nintendo will both have new revisions into the PS3's considered 'mid life'.
4 years ago


Edit: Note to self - don't drink half a 750ml bottle of Bacardi and then wonder what is going on on the forums. So far it has brought the desired effect though. icon_y1.gif
4 years ago
Funny cmdwedge, the general public don't seem to feel the same way as yourself.

Seriously, the negatives the PS3 has really don't matter. The only thing that puts people off is the lack of PS2 backwards compatibility. In my post, I am echoing the general public's thoughts and feelings. I work with this crap daily. I have to listen to it all.

The number of converters I see is amazing. A guy this morning comes in, buys a 360 to play through Halo 3, ME, Gears and Forza. Then he is going to sell it and get a PS3.

Are the general public wrong to think the PS3 is so great and the 360 isn't? Its funny when I tell them that with the majority of cross platform games, the 360 version is better - framerate, graphically, online. They still don't care.

cmdwedge wrote
Too many failures. More than 1% is too many in my books. Fortunately, I've not had any problems.
Lucky you. More than a 1% failure rate is unacceptable. Whats the failure rate at? Around 16%? Pfft!

I'm not a Sony fanboy, I just hate Microsoft. Whatever you reckon that makes me. I'm not fussed. And I lined up for my 360 at launch. What was I thinking? I don't know if Sony deserve to succeed, but Microsoft certainly don't.
4 years ago
Im not a fanboy of either system, I own both, but I much prefer my 360 purely as there are more decent games at the moment. I also much prefer the "OS" integration and the controller (personal preference)

I agree the failure rate is unacceptable, but im one of the lucky ones that has a launch machine still going strong.

As a gamer im not going to hate either machine or company, ill keep throwing my hard earned dollars at them if they keep pumping out great games!
4 years ago
Jim Dash wrote
I'm not a Sony fanboy, I just hate Microsoft. Whatever you reckon that makes me. I'm not fussed. And I lined up for my 360 at launch. What was I thinking? I don't know if Sony deserve to succeed, but Microsoft certainly don't.
I guess you're an apple boy then too.
4 years ago
In the interest of being impartial, I purchased a PS3 60gb today (you just have to know where to look, I guess!). I now own all three current gen systems, so I can make more informed statements.

So far, I love the DVD upscaling, it looks great. And my copy of GTA3 for PS2 looks far better than I expected.

And ****, how quiet is it??

/still love Achievements too much. icon_smile.gif
4 years ago
cmdwedge wrote
In the interest of being impartial, I purchased a PS3 60gb today (you just have to know where to look, I guess!). I now own all three current gen systems, so I can make more informed statements.

So far, I love the DVD upscaling, it looks great. And my copy of GTA3 for PS2 looks far better than I expected.

And s***, how quiet is it??

/still love Achievements too much. icon_smile.gif
bastardo! I searched far and wide for a 60Gb. All the places I went to were sold out of the 40Gb alone.
4 years ago
Everybody brought their 360's in 2006!
A few things from reading through all of the posts:
Fly - Yes, the 360 has gone through several revisions. Like the PS1 and PS2 did.
Jim Dash - I think that you may be the only retail clerk in the world who thinks that the 360 is dead in the water. It's not the hardcore gamers who are buying PS3's exclusivley - hardcore gamers follow the games, not a uninformed brand loyalty. They either have the console with the most games, or a combination of consoles.
Hardcore gamers like myself already have a 360, and need a reason to buy a PS3. The games might be coming, but they're not here yet. GT5 might be a brilliant exclusive, just like GT Mobile was for PSP. Fact is, Resistance and Motorstorm aren't system sellers. PS3 will sell heaps when MGS4 comes out, but for the time being there's nothing essential that isn't on 360 already.

I had my PS2 for years before I got an Xbox, this time it will be the other way around. If Killzone 2 is as good as it looks, I'll buy it with a PS3 in an instant. The PS3 probably has a lower failure rate because there's no reason to switch it on for longer than it takes to watch a Blu Ray movie.

I'm not anti-Sony, I have a PSP, and I still have more PS2 games than Xbox games. I pre-ordered an original Playstation. I just get sick of the whole "Micro$oft suxx0rs" thing. So far, they have the better option this generation. If it fails they fix it. Live costs money, but is a vastly superior service. Fact is, the games are there now. They've been there for a while, and the PS3 isn't there yet. People are buying a Blu Ray player that should have some games eventually.

Sony and Microsoft are competing for the same market. Meanwhile, Nintendo with their oddball approach are laughing all the way to the bank. And the Wii is just fun.

If everybody buys the console (whether it's for games or movies) that suits them, it doesn't matter which console they have. Neither of the big 3 will fail this generation.
4 years ago
BovineDeath wrote
Neither of the big 3 will fail this generation.
So true. Look at the original Xbox and GameCube sales compared to the PS2. Last gen was an absolute whitewash (what, 110 mil PS2s to 24mil Xboxes or something?..). This generation is going to be so close that there isn't going to be a clear winner IMO.

So no matter what happens really, Microsoft are winners once you look at the Xbox vs the Xbox 360 in sales. I chose a 360 because it has the games and it has the full cohesive online service. An informed gamer wouldn't buy a PS3 now for anything other than future potential (which it has). Therefore I can only assume the huge majority of PS3 purchasers are buying on brand name recognition, since video games in Australia seems to be synonymous with PlayStation. Just look at the top 10 sellers every week, as someone already said, Australians just don't have good gaming taste.

So I still don't understand why Sony treats PAL gamers like 2nd class citizens when all of the PAL regions are eating out of Sony's hand. All Microsoft published releases come out almost always simultaneously around the world, and while I dislike Microsoft (and Sony + Nintendo icon_wink.gif), they deserve some credit for that. I don't think my opinions are biased here either since I have a console (granted handheld ones) from each of the big 3.

Beh there I go ranting again. Just one final thing to give you an idea of how great some of the misconceptions are, I shocked a few friends of mine when I mentioned I had FIFA on my Xbox. As far as they were concerned, FIFA was only on PlayStation consoles! Same guys also insisted that the PlayStation 3 had "10x better graphics" than the 360. Even if the PS3 had better graphics at all than the 360, why wasn't this a problem for them last gen when the Xbox had superior hardware icon_wink.gif
4 years ago
All of the graphics comparisons I've seen between PS3 and Xbox 360 for the same game are ridiculously close, and usually (according to the article) are slightly better on 360. I can't tell the difference though, and I doubt anybody would in motion unless it was a framrate problem.
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