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29 Apr, 2006

PALGN Roundtable: Nintendo Wii

Wii Feature | What's in a name?
Yesterday, Nintendo rocked the gaming world announcing the final name for their long hyped up coming console. It's out with the Revolution, and in with Wii. It's caught everyone by surprise, with the forums exploding in an overabundance of toilet humour and 'Wii' punnery. With this in mind, we decided to all sit down around our metaphorical table and discuss Nintendo's latest move...


Jeremy, Contributor:

From a personal stand point, the name change is irrelevant to me. All I need to know is that it is a console from Nintendo and I know that it will satisfy my gaming needs. However, it's the others that I'm worried about. Sure, most Nintendo fans will buy it and be very happy. This may even be more so if it lives up to its innovative promises. The thing that worries me is that this name change will kill a lot of the appeal that the Revolution/Wii had in the first place. Just like the cartridges did it for the N64, and the purple colour did it for the GameCube.

Nintendo keep saying that they've learned from their mistakes but they are still shooting themselves in the foot on a regular basis. It is also another sign from Nintendo that they don't give a rats' about anything other than their own backyard. Despite being a global brand, Nintendo continue to go about their own business and rely on the world to feed off their scraps.

Simply, I think that it is a bad name because it will most likely become synonymous with another generation of damaging yet totally avoidable errors. It's not just the name but the implications and actions that follow. It may be a good move in Japan (and inadvertedly, France), where Wii is obviously much easier to roll off that Revolution. It may be a decent move for Nintendo to get a simple recognisable phrase not unlike DS ("Dee Es"). There is (arguably) a logical reason behind it, but it cannot be destined for long term success.

Perception is an important thing. With this name, now comes a new preception - and you can look in any forum to see what kind of perception has been generated in a matter of hours. Unless the last few secrets of the machine are really revelational (they may be), I cannot see how this is ment to appeal to the people who aren't already guaranteed to buy it. Yeah, the video is nice and the new icon looks good, but they feel arbitrary in the comparison to the "real" implications. I can already see myself looking three to four years down the track and finding myself in another struggle to finding games and units on shop shelves. Man, I really hope it's region free...

The N64 and GCN had some of the best games of their time. And as we can see, that's counted for little in the face of perception. We can say that iPod, Yahoo and Google are now insititutional, despite the initial apprehensions - but Wii? For every person that says grow-up, another five toilet jokes pop-up. Unfortunately, it looks like it's the true minority that will be suffering in the face of human irrationality... Again. And all because of one three letter word.



Luke, PR Director:

It's a difficult one, that's for sure. My initial reaction was of disgust and anger towards Nintendo - it really did seem like they wanted to lose the next generation console race. Nintendo have enough time now to look at the reaction and adjust the name of the console if they want. It appears that Sony has done this with the PlayStation 3 controller and Nintendo need to be smart enough to do it with the Wii.

Nintendo have commented that it will eventually roll off the tongue and the inevitable jokes will stop. But this is very unlikely, as I don't seem to recall any other company naming their product after bodily waste.

Yahoo, Google and iPod were all different, yes. However, they weren't stupid. If Nintendo had called their product something different then the name would probably have worked, but as it is it gives the perception that the company is losing touch with gamers. Nintendo needs to be seen as cool, and they aren't going to be seen as "cool" by non-gamers by calling their product a Wii...


Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
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Chris, Reviewer:

Wii. Is that ‘We’? ‘Why?’ ‘Why-eye’? That’s the thing I feel will confuse most. People like things they can say and you would like think that a simple three letter word would be an easy thing to pronounce. Then there’s the whole urine-related association with the name, something Nintendo will have to work very hard to avoid when marketing the thing later in the year.

On the plus side it does have a few things going for it. Firstly, it’s far away from what you would expect from a typical console name. There’s no use of the words box, cube, system or any kinds of numbers or abbreviations in there either and by doing that you are somewhat removing the geeky stigma attached to gaming in the minds of a lot of people. The name is in no way attached to the GameCube or the N64 either but retains the word Nintendo that people know, especially from the recent Nintendo DS success. Also, the name is pretty much unforgettable, especially when you see it written meaning ideas for advertising can only benefit.

I don’t actually hate the name, it’s mainly the toilet-linked jokes I’m most worried about. If you look at thing rationally, console names in general do tend to sound odd when you first hear them anyway - Dreamcast? Xbox 360? Even by something as soon as E3 I’m sure many of us will already be used to referring to the Nintendo Wii without it sounding stupid. Revolution may have sounded good to us gamers, but it’s essentially meaningless to your average Joe on the street. I don't think Nintendo will lose gamers over a console name, as the games will always be what most people make their decision on - but they could gain new customers with such a unique name.

They’re already taking a risk with the system as a whole anyway and I feel that with this console it’s all or nothing this time in terms of gaining a foothold back into the home console market. But we must remember the vast skepticism many had nearly two years ago when a little unknown handheld called the Nintendo DS was shown. With its seemingly ridiculous use of two screens and lower touch screen many were predicting the end of Nintendo. They proved us wrong with that with nearly 10 million units shifted in Japan alone. Nintendo aren’t the foolish company they were a few years ago. Their TV/magazine advertising is no longer the embarrassing mess it used to be and you only have to look at recent console designs of the Wii, the Game Boy Micro and the DS Lite and it is obvious the days of purple boxes are long behind them.



Nick, Contributor:

Calling the console ‘Wii’ is possibly one of the smartest moves Nintendo has made.

The first reason that choosing Wii as the name is such a great idea is that it’s so phonetically lame in the English language that people won’t be able to stop talking about it’s stupidity. As soon as people hear this name, nobody is going to be forgetting it anytime soon and upon first hearing it, may have to do a double take and won’t be able to resist asking a follow up question such as “Why? Are you serious? Or what was Iwata smoking when he approved that – I want some of it”.

Secondly, the subliminal – or not so subliminal, now that Nintendo outlined exactly why they chose that name – messaging that the name incorporates. Apart from the aforementioned messages it represents as a visual, there is of course, the ‘Wii’ plus an ‘F’ equals ‘WiFi’ – another component of Nintendo’s current handheld system and upcoming home console. Another hidden meaning one could derive from this title is ‘Wii” plus an extra ‘W’ and capitalising each ‘i’ to produce “WWII”, signifying that Nintendo are putting up a fight in the console race this time
[I think you're reaching a bit here, Nick. - Ed]. Regardless if you go along with my two additional hidden messages that I derived from the name, many people have and will skim over the meanings that Nintendo have provided, yet the hidden meanings will lay dormant in their subconscious… Or so Nintendo will hope.

I am yet to see one Nintendo ‘fan’ disown the company based on the name, just that they will continue to refer to it as the “Revolution”. At least that’s better than the tedious grade-school puns that are likely to follow this system around forever. Personally I don’t care that the name now has a place in toilet-humour jokes of the future, I think Nintendo know what they are doing.



Chris Leigh, Contributor:

Speaking as somebody who never particularly liked the rather banal moniker of "GameCube" ("It's a cube, which plays...GAMES. Geddit?!"), I think it's a smarter move than people are giving Nintendo credit for. Not only is "Wii" a name that's provoked a predictable initial outcry and buzz (all publicity is good publicity, etc etc.), but like some of the strongest brand names - iPod, Google, eBay - it's distinctive, compact, quirky and memorable and (as Nintendo has been desperate to point out over the fanboy wailing) carries a deeper meaning.

Admittedly, "Revolution" also had a deeper meaning, but as a name, was it distinctive? Compact? Quirky? Memorable? For me, "Wii" beats it on all four counts. As for the giggling over the name, it's just another indication that, at its heart, the games industry is still a tad childish. Luckily, innuendo is a type of humour that wears thin pretty quickly.


Choose your wiipon.

Choose your wiipon.
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Matt, Deputy Editor:

I've had my fun with the toilet humour and gotten over the general shock of it all, but I still don't see how Nintendo feels this name is going to add anything to their cause. I do think that a lot of people are focusing solely on the gamer community's reaction to the name - have you all forgotten that this console is Nintendo's attempt to expand the market? How does the wider market actually feel about the name? I guess I'll probably have to wait til Monday to see the Nikkei's reaction to the name. Wonder if they'll actually use the relatively obscure "wi" character in Japan (it's actually usually pronounced "i" anyway).

There's a vague possibility that it's all a big marketing stunt, just to get people's focus on them right before E3, when they'll reveal a name that's much more appropriate for the wider market that they're targeting, but I think that's not going to happen.

To be honest, I don't really have a lot to say on the matter. The gamer side of my mind says you could call the system the Nintendo Slimey Hunk of Guano and I'd still buy it. I guess the best thing that has come out of the day is the fact that several Nintendo representatives have stated that they got the name out into the world a few days earlier in order to get people over the shock so that they can use their press conference to focus on the software, which is still arguably the most important part of the puzzle. There's still many things we don't know about the machine, and I don't think the vast majority of consumers are going to be able to make an opinion until they get their grubby mits on it.



Mark, Contributor:

Nintendo has done it, another first - they’ve managed to come up with the lamest console name in history.

Of course, though, many people will look pass the silly name and focus on the games, and only make a few jokes at the name because it’s so ‘out there’. It certainly does fit with what Nintendo were aiming to achieve with this console, and the Wii seems like it will stay true to Nintendo’s statement that they want to target a much more trendier demographic than they have over the past ten plus years. You could argue what’s so trendy about Wii, but it’s the image that is going to go along with the name and how it’ll be used with the console.

And that’s why I’m not too worried about the name choice. If Nintendo can implement a good marketing campaign that expresses the use of the word Wii and reflects what they’re wanting to achieve with their console.

Realistically though, it’s a stupid risk from a business perspective. You can argue that it is a name that’ll remain in people’s minds, because it’s so silly, but the matter of the fact is that Wii isn’t a casual word, and a word that no one is going to be intrigued by. It doesn’t have any impact, it has no strength behind it, and it shows off the typical Nintendo image – lighthearted and aiming for a much more younger and carefree market, which is the only area they aren’t losing in. Honestly, it just lacks any sort of impact for casual gamers to ponder what’s so hot about Wii.

Wii is very Nintendo though – it’s out there and it’s just as big as a risk as the console itself. People might argue that a name doesn’t sell a product, but in all honestly it’s just as important as the quality of the product. It’s the image that this name will create for the console, and unless Nintendo can show through their marketing what Wii means to the console, then it’s doubtful it’ll spark any interest from the casual gamer.

I’m torn between two sides at the moment. On one side it ‘could’ work, but relies heavily on Nintendo’s ability to incorporate Wii and it’s image, whilst on the other side it’s another risk that’ll more than likely won’t fare too well with the average consumer.


Have you pre-ordered your Wii yet?

Have you pre-ordered your Wii yet?
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David, Contributor:

My first reaction? Oh dear.

I'm about as big a Nintendo defender as they come, but even I admit that sometimes (not often, but sometimes) they do the indefensible. I can see the logic behind featuring the purple GameCube in marketing material, they wanted to imply 'fun' (keep in mind that the first iMacs came in fruity colours and were praised for being less boring then a grey, boring PC). But with the GameCube, someone should have just said 'hey, that design in that colour doesn't look cool'. It's the same with 'Wii' - I can see the logic behind it, and it even makes sense to go with this type of name, but I thought that someone should just have said 'hey - people have a tendency to be immature, and there are plenty of other random names that can imply the same thing, so lets go with something else'. Why did this not happen? Even leaving it as it is, and just changing the pronunciation to 'why' rather then 'we' removes the only real problem with it.

But moving on, it was certainly clear that the Revolution name had to go, despite both fitting the console and sounding quite cool. Why? Well, first of all, you want a worldwide name, and Revolution wouldn't work in Japan - the pronunciation would be very confusing, and the 'rebellion' connotation is missing, it just sounds like what the wheel of a bus does. Secondly, that 'coolness' we all love about the name could be a problem to Nintendo's 'Blue Ocean' of new consumers. Soccer Mums, Gramps and cousin Louie don't want 'rebellion', they don't want to sound 'hardcore'. They just want to play with that fun gadget everyone is talking about. This type of name is exactly what the doctor ordered for that crowd. But once again, why this particular name?

So where does that leave us? Chris, Nick and Chris Leigh have posted a variety of defences of the name (as has this guy), and they may be right. The Dreamcast was an excellent console despite sounding like a fishing rod, that the name 'PlayStation' is terrible engrish has been forgotten over time, and we've moved on from the utter meaninglessness of 'Xbox 360'. As Nick said, the visual is good, and I think the actual logo of 'Wii' looks great. It's just the damn pronunciation - but then again, we allready have the 'Pee S Pee'.

Finally, the name doesn't change what the product is, and the product is still looking awesome in my opinion. The name can still change - remember that the Nintendo 64 was officially the 'Ultra 64' for over a year, the GameCube was semi-officially the 'Star-cube' for a few days, and the DS was about to be re-named the 'Nitro' at some point. If the jokes are still going in a couple of months they can still change it. It worked for the PS3's batarang...



John, Art Director:

"Why?" "Wiise?" "Wai!" "Wee"

I'm not really shocked or surprised by it, my reaction was "OK? How do you pronounce it?". A lot of people seem to be either really happy about it or really angry, but I'm on the fence.

Names like Google, Yahoo! (remember to include the exclaimation mark) or even iPod don't have any real meaning. A Google is supposed to be 1 million million which will take Google just as long to index, Yahoo! is something mad scientists exclaim when finding a new way to take over the world and iPod is a Pod that plays music and video but not Is. The argument has been made that these names are ok and Wii isn't but I remember alot of people scoffing at Google back in 2000-2001 - and these people now worship it.

However, the pronunciation of the name presents some awkward social situations to conquer. Say I walk into a shop, go to the sales counter and ask “Excuse me, do you have the new
Mario Kart game for the Wee in yet?”. Children will ask their parents “Mummy and Daddy, can I have a Wee for Christmas please?”. There will be all of times when you will just bite your tongue and just say “Nintendo console” instead. I’ve spent most of the day thinking about all of the different ways in which this will manifest itself.

Revolution was a good name and could have worked great as a name if Nintendo were only targeting “serious” gamers that are tech-savvy (I really hate that phrase). The Revolution probably wouldn’t have brought in new customers though and shortening it to Rev wouldn’t have worked because there are existing products with that name. Maybe they should have had a few focus groups before deciding the name or perhaps realised that E3 was soon and scrapped something together.

People will get used to it though and a year after launch it’ll be just another name like Google or iPod.

I’d also like to draw everyone’s attention to the fact that PS3 also rhymes and be careful when saying it fast.


"No, I wasn't kidding when I said Wii, damnit!"

"No, I wasn't kidding when I said Wii, damnit!"
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Lahiru, Contributor:

I think ‘rollercoaster ride’ would be an adequate way of describing my reactions to this somewhat rude awakening. Even a full 24 hours after the revelation, I still have yet to finally decide on what to make of Nintendo’s latest disruption. At first, I was in disbelief. I simply put it down as another one of those rumours that we all just love hearing about. Then after making my way to the official site and seeing those i’s do their thing and finally nestle up next to that w, the realization hit and I was dumbstruck.

Cue Nintendo’s reasoning, and those millions of brain cells that had just died a cruel and unusual death in my head are suddenly resurrected in an aura of holy light as I think to myself, ‘Yeah, I think I get it!’

And then I say ‘Nintendo Wii’ out loud. More dead brain cells and an irresistible urge to wash my mouth out with soap.

I love the look of the name but (and this may be simply a case of new name blues), I just can’t seem to get my head around the sound of 'Nintendo Wii'. Maybe it’s not even that. Maybe it’s the fact that they dropped possibly one of the most fitting and powerful consoles names in the history of gaming and replaced it with something so totally off the wall and seemingly random that it would confuse and embarrass the very people they were trying to reach in the first place. You know the ones I’m talking about.

To me the title ‘Wii’ will take more time to sink in because of how perfect ‘Revolution’ was suited to what Nintendo were trying to do with the machine. That said, if ‘Revolution’ was out of the equation, oh who am I kidding, ‘Wii’ is just bizarre.

I’m sure once we start hearing it used more often in news articles, press releases, developer interviews and the like, the once cringe worthy ‘Wii’ will find a place in our vocabulary. You can count on that. We’ve just got to give it some time, and I’m willing to wait it out.



Brendan, Editor:

I agree with David in that I like the basic idea behind it. Nintendo wanted a slightly different name, high-tech and artsy name - one that was basic, and hinted at the fact that people of all ages can pick up a remote and have a go. But... "Wii"? The biggest problem I have with this is the pronunciation - there are a heap of possibilities there, as has been said above. Why not something like "US"? You can say it's one syllable, and works when lined up next to the DS. Or "Y" - for generation Y, or something or rather. There are many options here - trust Nintendo to pick one of the worst.

Personally, I can't see your average punter seeing this thing at stores and giving it a go, purely because of the questionable name. To be, this just seems like Nintendo firing another bullet right into their long-suffering foot. Not that I really care, though - after all, it is only a name.



Jeremy H, Contributor

I don't pretend to understand the inner-workings of the Nintendo decision makers in this particular instance. I don't think the name will make or break the console, but I am concerned all the same.

What is most concerning is the decision making process that managed to approve the name in the first place. If Wii was the name that captured the minds and hearts of Nintendo's most powerful, then exactly how bad were the other choices?

As long as the decision makers in this instance aren't the same people responsible for developing the console and the software then there still may be hope. In the long run, it is the strenght of the console and software that will determine if the Wii has a future. That in turn will determine the long- term acceptance of the name.

The word iPod has become ubiquitous, not because its such a great name, but because Apple created a well designed product with a first class interface that captured the imagination of the public throughout the world.

If Nintendo can do the same with the Wii, then it's future will be assured.



So that's our opinion on Wii. What do you think? Be sure to add your comments to this article just below these words.

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72 Comments
3 years ago
Everyone can't deny that there IS something in a name though.A name is almost like a summary of what the product is, what it will deliver.It is the products way of catching the consumers attention while they peruse the store shelves.It is supposed to say, in one or two words, 'hey, look at me, i'm better than my competitor over there, buy me!'.

There IS something in a name.Millions, if not billions of dollars all over the world is spent on market research and surveys and questionaires in getting that name just 'right'.Hell even the cereal 'just right's' name would have been mulled over for months in some board room.

You think holden commodore would have been as succesful is if was called the holden 'wii'.What about a ford mustang.Or cobra.Or monaro.They didn't name themselves and it wasn't just thought up over someones lunch break.It doesn't matter if they have the same amount of horses under the hood or what time they clock in a quarter mile, a products success is a culmination of things, with it's name, at the forefront.

A name is bloody important.It sadens me that nintendo do so much right, yet in one area where the competition would never dream of letting themselves down upon, nintendo overlook it.Like donning yourself in a tuxedo for a wedding making sure everything is just right, the hair, breath smells good, tie is on straight and then you slip on a pair of ugg boots and go to the wedding and think nothing of it, while everyone around you looks on bewilderment.They wont remember how slick your hair was that day they'll remember that idiot who wore ugg boots with a tux.

Like i dunno.A name is so important.It's one of the little things, and the little things are sometimes the biggest.
3 years ago
I say to everyone out there who cares if you don't like the name {Wii} or if it has HD or not so what - All that really matters is how the games feel & play & best of all how fun they are thats it who cares what it's called just be happy that Nintendo does & will always make the best & fun games to Around icon_smile.gif

Also even with this new name it's still the same console with upcoming brand new IP games icon_smile.gif also you still get to play just about all the old NES, SNES, N64 + More icon_razz.gif

Just one last thing - I like the name {Wii} + i think it's cool icon_smile.gif & who ever does not like it who cares live with it as Nintendo is not going to make you buy {Wii} or it's games + i think alot care more about the name then what games you will be playing on it soon icon_smile.gif

Don't know if they did come out right but icon_biggrin.gif icon_razz.gif
3 years ago
People learned to align their chi, they will learn to love the Wii.
3 years ago
Time and again i hear "By the time it gets to E3 we'll all be used to the name". But honestly will we ? Come E3 there'll be a fresh barage of jokes and criticism bringing this whole debacle right back. Everyone has said that this name won't put off the avid Nintendo fan but that is really besides the point. Nintendo doesn't need to market to its avid fanbase it needs to attract new customers and telling these customers to "see past" something however slight goes against basic business sense. When selling a product there should be no barriers between the consumer and the product so why do Nintendo think its OK to have one here?

Further more they will not really be able to use this name on their next generation games. Whilst they were all tentatively titled Super Smash Bros Revolution and the like, the would surely be pratically unsellable as Animal Crossing Wii, so using the superior gameplay to force the consumer to buy the Wii despite their natural inclination would be made even harder.

There's always time for them to change the name before launch, and they cannot have invested too much money in the name as yet. With any luck they will see that Wii may not be the best name for the job. After all they could call it the Hitlervator and say it conveyed the machines desire to dominate the casual gaming marketplace, but just because they can think of a reason why the name is applicable doesnt mean their customer base will be able to see past the negative connotations.
3 years ago
I was expecting a bigger panning from Brendan. Far too civil for my likings.
3 years ago
I say to everyone wait to E3 to see what the games are like & i don't think Nintendo will go with a new name again so for all you out there live with it & say hello to

Wii icon_razz.gif xD
3 years ago
Wii is a mistake.

No, people will not forget that it means wee wee - and to answer Jeremy - what are the odds it will be region free? Zero IMO.

Nintendo are taking the Pii.

Puns aside - the main things that worry me apart from the stupid name are that first, they will not change the name. Second, we will need to buy lots of memory sticks or an external hard drive (hidden expense is more offensive to me than up front expense). Third, they will aim this soley at children and a small niche market of nostalgia gamers. Fourth, the games will be as they were - a few good ones, then a load of lame ones that will dry up and I will wish I had bought a Playstation 3.

Honestly, I was looking forward to the Revolution and I think they should have kept the name Revolution.

With this new name Wii Nintendo are showing that they have learned nothing, and that they will make all the same mistakes as before.

I have lost my faith, and will probably buy a Playstation 3 if it does not sound like a geriatric vacuum cleaner like the Xbox 360 does.
3 years ago
That which we call a console by any other name would play just as sweet.
3 years ago
Calling the console Wii means less sales, which means less 3rd party support, which means less games to choose from.

I know people say, 'who cares if other people buy it - I just want to play awesome games'. But that's the thing, if people don't buy it, think of all the awesome 3rd party we're potentially missing out on.

BTW, I agree with Jeremy for the most part.
3 years ago
I think that the name Wii is a good idea, its going to produce bad press because alot of people are immature but who cares? People will take more notice of the name then they did of gamecube of n64.

The whole concept behind the Wii concole is all I'm worried about anyways!
3 years ago
The logic behind the name sounds resonable, but it doesn't add to Nintendo's image. Wii does not give it a mature name, an inclusive name, or a strong name. If they were intending to open up in the market, they've only opened up to immaturity. True, other company names have had problems in the past ... but Wii has opened itself to a variety of toilet and sexual jokes.

That's mistake number 1. Parents may be turned off for buying their kids something that sounds both like a perverse sexual joke and an exotic foreign concept (not to mention a Hippie concept). If they do buy the system then they better be prepared for the reaction of their kids. Either they'll laugh and get a kick out of constantly bringing up new toilet humor they heard at school ... or they'll say "Do you want to Embarass me? God mom! Get me a PlayStation. Those are so much cooler!"

That brings me to number 2. The kiddie effect. You kiddify something too much, kids won't want to buy it. Plus you'll only make the fans of "extreme cute" happy. I remember many Kirby/Pokemon fans going "wiiiiiii" in the past, and I'm not hearing the end of it now. They love it. "Wiiiiiiiiii" sounds like something their anime bunny comic strips love. That's not an image either a kid wants or a serious gamer/adult wants.

The third mistake is letting Revolution go for so long anyway. It's engrained in our minds. Revolution is an act of courage, and strength. It is also a term for a planet going around the sun and brings up many images that, although doesn't seem to belong, could be worked into the message. "We go around our competitors" or something like that. Wii sounds like we want to have WaterSports with our competitors. Not cool. Unless you're into that stuff.

So this is the opinion of one, and maybe we are making a big deal out of nothing. However, I think it is a bigger deal for the long term image of Nintendo. Though N64 and GameCube had its mistakes, they were mistakes that we took in stride. Wii is something that even nintendo fans won't ever be able to throw away.

Nintendo ... Wii

Ya ... THAT'S something to be proud of ....

--MarkVA

P.S. Please, the theoretical idea that this is what Nintendo WANTED is a sad one. When Bill Clinton went through a media storm about his intern affair, it hampered HIS job and the government. When New Coke came out, the taste didn't stir controversy it was the NAME and how Coke could have abandoned a patriotic drink. Stirring up bad imagery for a company is going to kill future image and future consoles. The next generation is going to have to realize that what they do now will either be innovative or a mistake. We're TRYING to tell Nintendo that this is a mistake.
3 years ago
SargeAbernathy wrote
That's mistake number 1. ... they'll say "Do you want to Embarass me? God mom! Get me a PlayStation. Those are so much cooler!"
I agree with this - an accurate prediction. Wii will not be cool except in Japan where apparently ii is good.

SargeAbernathy wrote
That brings me to number 2. The kiddie effect. You kiddify something too much, kids won't want to buy it. ....
Half agree with that one. If something is marketed as cute and kitch then kids love it - remember Pokemon? I hate it, but kids love it.

There again, older kids will hate it and will love the Playstation 3 or PSP because it is so much cooler.

SargeAbernathy wrote
However, I think it is a bigger deal for the long term image of Nintendo. Though N64 and GameCube had its mistakes, they were mistakes that we took in stride. Wii is something that even nintendo fans won't ever be able to throw away.

Nintendo ... Wii

Ya ... THAT'S something to be proud of ....
I agree with this, it will do to Nintendo what the Sega CD and Dreamcast did to Sega. Oh the DS may save their asses until next time, but...

SargeAbernathy wrote
P.S. Please, the theoretical idea that this is what Nintendo WANTED is a sad one...We're TRYING to tell Nintendo that this is a mistake.
Their marketing department, like most marketing departments around the world - suck.

They never listen to their consumers though, and it could be their downfall.

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3 years ago
Quite frankly, I'm more curious about how you can use a controller with 1 hand than I am about the name.

And as far as marketing, I figure most people 14+ won't find the name embarrassing, will remember, and may think its cool to have motion sensitivity. Kids younger than 9 will think the name is a great joke. It will be much more marketable to Women and families. Much better than revolution, anyway. Revolution was one of the most generic hackneyed sounding names ever. And as for the idea that it won't fly with gamers, I'm pretty into PC gaming. Play a lot of enemy territory, played oblivion (which is too short, too easy, and lacking plot, fyi), unreal tournament, etc..., I really don't see anything wrong with having a variety of colors and a catch/bizzarre name. If anything this whole controversy just shows how infantile americans are.

Get off worrying about the name. Doesn't quality count for anything? I want to hear more about the controllers. As I mentioned, I pc game. As every PC gamer knows, consol controllers can not hold a candle to a mouse and keyboard. If halo2 ever comes out for PC and xBox and pc players canplay head to head, pc players will kick the consol's ass. No matter how much consol players deny it, the dual joystick/b-pad configuration is just plain inefficient. Now mice have to have a mousing surface so they can't really be used as consol controllers, though it's possible some sort of trackball could. So what I really want to see it if this motion senstivity finally makes a consol controller usable and not feel like going back to the dinosaur age. To me, the potential of the controller is a miuch bigger story than the name of the plastic. If it does fulfill the niche of fitting between pc-style input devices and the hang-out while-lounging-in beanbag chair style of consoles it could finally allow the stupid people who don't know anything about computers to play a decent game without having to suffer the travesty of past console input devices. (To be fair, the reason console input devices are atrocious is that they have their roots in a 2-D environment where their design made sense. On NES, mario made sense with a d-pad. But they just don't have the precision when it comes to 3-D, especially for tasks such as sniping and moving in an FPS, or controlling units in an RTS.)(Actually, I doubt a traditional RTS can ever be made that funtions well on a console no matter how the controllers change)
3 years ago
Whats with all the first time posters coming out of the woodwork and all congregating in this particular thread?
3 years ago
^yeah very odd. good to see some new faces though. maybe this Wii business has made lots of people stand up and get all hyped up.
3 years ago
Some groovy avatars and names not pertaining to rotten fruit would be a bonus too.
3 years ago
Last thing I'll say about the name - it may not be real.

The real name may be announced at E3.

Why?

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Third, and this is a big one, there are no trademarks registered by Nintendo nor by any dummy corp in the U.S or over there for Wii. This is unprecedented for Nintendo and it is not possible that his is an oversight. If Wii were the name, they would have registered it. In fact, no new trademarks have been registered by Nintendo at all. This leads us to conclude that Nintendo has in fact registered the real name under a dummy corp, which is SOP when trying to keep a name a secret prior to launch.
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3 years ago
Jibbs wrote
Some groovy avatars and names not pertaining to rotten fruit would be a bonus too.
My avatar is groovy - but lets talk about my screen name.

It is cool.

Rancid because I am feeling rancid about Wii.

Avacado is a nutritious fruit that tastes nice and is good for you - much as Nintendo thinks Wii is.

See the connotations? It all makes sense

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3 years ago
Jibbs wrote
Whats with all the first time posters coming out of the woodwork and all congregating in this particular thread?
The roundtable appeared on Google News, which lead to a quick influx of joins.
3 years ago
I figure most people 14+ won't find the name embarrassing


Exactly Im just hoping a kick arse cricket game comes out and i gaurantee all my mates who are looking to get a ps3 will get a wii as weel
3 years ago
cycosippius wrote
Im just hoping a kick arse cricket game comes out and i gaurantee all my mates who are looking to get a ps3 will get a wii as weel
I wish I knew how to play cricket, lol!
3 years ago
Hehe, Google News. I actually surprised some of my friends after a few of my articles showed up on the GN front page some time ago. I was pretty shocked too! Freaking Google news! But then again, Google news puts everything up...

Still, it's nice to be noticed icon_razz.gif
3 years ago
Whoa these newbies are getting out of hand.

*cracks whip* down!

Don't spam and better yet head over to The Welcome Thread and learn the eticut around here and introduce yourselves properly if your genuinely interested in the site and gaming in general.

If your not, please don't waste your time and ours by talking about crap.
3 years ago
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