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Tristan Kalogeropoulos
04 Feb, 2007

PS3 Pre-Launch Roundtable

PALGN Feature | Like Arthur's knights we assemble, to discuss.... the soon to be PAL PS3.
Welcome to what will make up one of the monthly PALGN staff roundtables in which us PALGNers will share our thoughts and opinions - usually very different - on a myriad of different topics to do with the world of video games. This month's subject is to do with a topic which everyone seems to have an opinion on: the PS3.

The PAL date of birth of the PlayStation 3 has finally been announced and confirmed, along with the list of release titles, not only those on the circular plastic discs that us gamers crave so dearly, but also those available for download. The final asking price for the blue laser-toting machines has also been settled upon, leaving many to survive on two-minute noodles and eggs for a couple of months in order to scrape together the cash needed to get one of these bad boys. As gaming is all we here at PALGN think about, we've been ruminating on what the black, grill shaped console has in store for us come March 23, not only in terms of games but the whole kit and kaboodle.

Here's some of our initial thoughts.

Chris Leigh - PALGN Executive Editor

For several months now, Sony has been everybody's punchbag of choice. To a handful of onlookers, Sony's future in this business is shaky at best. This is a plainly ludicrous viewpoint. There's little doubt that a portion of the negative press has been warranted - many of Sony's recent decisions (delaying the PS3 here, the hefty price tag compared to NTSC regions, the apparently greed-driven choice to withhold the "budget" PS3 from PAL gamers for the time being, the di-sas-trous ad campaigns) deserve criticism.

Conversely, much of what Sony has done well has gone largely ignored. For a start, there'll be a potentially cracking launch line-up waiting for us on March 23. Resistance, MotorStorm, Tony Hawk's Project 8, Virtua Fighter 5, Virtua Tennis 3, Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell: Double Agent, Tekken Dark Resurrection, flOw, Oblivion, Fight Night Round 3, F.E.A.R - regardless of the fact that many of these absolute gems have appeared on other platforms, there'll be plenty of day-one PS3 owners who don't own an Xbox 360 or a gaming PC. Unlike launch-day owners of the Wii and Xbox 360, a feast of quality gaming awaits them.

There's some eye-catching entrants in that list also - in particular, flOw looks like an elegant reminder that many of the best left-field, "arty" games will once again be exclusive to Sony's machine. I for one can't wait to see what Fumito Ueda and the team behind Ico and Shadow of the Colossus come up with. Then there's the bleeding-edge technology you'll be getting for your cash. While there's still something slightly rotten about how Sony is Trojan-horsing this new technology into living rooms, the cheapest Blu-ray players in the land remain considerably more expensive than the PS3, making Sony's machine a snip.

Finally, there's the fact that Sony has been enormously successful in this industry for well over a decade now, and with good reason. Their machines have consistently sported software of the very highest quality - certainly, the PlayStation 2 remains a favourite of mine - and it's highly unlikely the PS3 will suddenly halt that trend.

So I guess the moral is: it's perhaps time for the gaming press and gamers alike to sit back and see what Sony delivers over the next twelve months. Consoles, it's fair to say, never live or die by their first six months at market. At times, it's hard not to feel that a shift in the balance of power is occuring at times, with a resurgent Nintendo and a determined Microsoft both still realistic contenders for top spot. But only a fool would rule out Sony at this stage - a year from now, I've a hunch that much of the current animosity towards all things PlayStation will have evaporated. For what Sony has given this industry, I certainly hope that is the case.


Phil - PALGN Writer

If the PS3 launched on the original proposed date, I would have had a completely different outlook than today. Buying a PS3 on November 17 seemed ridiculous – terrible lineup of titles, miniscule Blu-ray selection, bank-breaking price. It’s still on the expensive side, but at least come March there’ll be a far greater use for all that technology. The shift to a March launch means two things - Sony have built up an impressive launch list of games (albeit many having been out on the 360 for months now), and also allowed Microsoft and Nintendo to steam miles ahead in sales and consumer base.

Given the hefty price tag (which is VERY important), Sony had better start advertising to the masses about what makes the machine so great to be marked at twice the price of its competitors. And I'm not talking about worth, that’s an analysis in objective monetary terms. What’s important is the level of value the console has to your own personal tastes. Don’t go out there thinking it’s a cheap Blu-ray player – the PS2 had lousy DVD functionality, and if the Blu-ray technology takes off, you’ll sit back, relax and watch the prices of standalone units plummet. For now, if spending a hefty chunk of change to play some cool games and experiment with a fledgling online service is your idea of value, go right ahead. In short, the PS3 launch isn’t really all that different from any other. Spend premium price, receive passable content. Prices will eventually drop, and the library of games will grow very quickly. The only problem is Sony may have joined the race a little too late this time.


Like the monolith from 2001 A Space Odyssey the PS3 stands powerful, dark and full of enough mystery to make apes and humans go mad for it.

Like the monolith from 2001 A Space Odyssey the PS3 stands powerful, dark and full of enough mystery to make apes and humans go mad for it.
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Jeremy - PALGN Writer

Frankly, I believe the Australian launch line-up for the Xbox 360 was superior to this one. There are simply too many titles that were released last year and none of them have been substantially improved over cheaper and more realidy available versions. Still, it is better than what was received in the US last year and unlikely to have the same issues as the Wii launch line-up.

While we've known for a while that the price was going be a killer, the worst part is that it will open a black hole in anyone's pocket who decides to buy it. Only composite cables packed in? That's about as useful as tits on a bull.

While doom and gloom is being repeatedly spelled for the PS3, there is one big hope that the PS3 has for it's future. That is, the massive fanbase that consists of people who DON'T read the websites and DON'T look at anything other than brand name. The amount of these people is nothing to be sneezed at, but neither is the possible backlash that will come when they realise the PS3 is useless on a non-HDTV...


Luke - PALGN PR director

I'm disappointed that Sony didn't release more information when they announced the release date. We still don't know whether the console will come with a bundled in Blu-Ray movie or how much the peripherals will cost. I will be getting the console, but I don't feel compelled to pre-order, I'm pretty sure you'll be able to get a console at launch if only because of the price. One thing I'm very impressed with is the launch lineup, you'll be able to download Gran Turismo, Tekken: Dark Resurrection and Gripshift on day one, then there will be retail titles like Motorstorm and Ridge Racer 7, I believe it's definitely one of the best launch lineups in a long time, though we did have to wait long enough. There are a few titles missing from the launch lineup such as Singstar and Lair which appear to have slipped a little which is a little bit disappointing.

Joseph - PALGN Writer

Having been unimpressed by the PlayStation 3’s delay in PAL regions, it is reassuring that Sony have taken the time and effort to ensure their date of March 2007 has been met but I’m still not completely convinced by Sony’s tactics. Firstly, there’s been a huge emphasis on Blu-Ray technology, so much so that I’m growing tired of hearing the word “blue.” The thing is, I am yet to see any evidence that Blu-ray (or HD for that matter) is the way of the future. I feel as if both Sony and Microsoft are pushing us to upgrade our DVD technology when we don’t really need too. Secondly, there’s the matter of the price tag. $1000 is a lot for a gaming console, despite all the “in-built” features the PlayStation 3 has. Like with the Wii and Xbox 360, I have little intention of using the features to their fullest. Everything these consoles are offering is offered in another so called “media centre” that you’re using right now... A PC. Debate as you will, a PC runs software, goes online, plays DVDs and acts as one of our main uses of communication. Now I’m not just pointing fingers at Sony; Nintendo and Microsoft are just as guilty implementing these revelations that the console is a “must have” as it is “unique.” When it comes down to it, a gaming console is called a gaming console for one reason: the software titles available on it. From this factor alone there is one reason why I won’t be buying a PlayStation 3 on launch day: There isn’t a single exclusive title I am interested in.

Some people are excited about the exclusives, some are feeling a little more lukewarm.

Some people are excited about the exclusives, some are feeling a little more lukewarm.
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Tristan - PALGN Writer

My initial reaction to the delay of the PAL PlayStation 3 launch was one of utter disgust. "Why hath thou forsaken us!" I cried out - well not really, but you get my drift. However haven gotten passed my initial feelings of betrayal and after some thought, I feel now that March 23 is a good time for the launch. We will hopefully not have to put up with the many technical issues that dog a system's release as they will have mostly been ironed out in the lands of both the rising sun and of the free.

I'm pretty disappointed by the launch line up overall (although that's to be expected). It seems to me that there are far too many titles with a number on the end. I was hoping that some more of the original IP's would have been ready by our launch time but, I'm still holding out hope that we will see a quick influx of games not long after the system hit's store shelves. That said I don't think a lack of original IP's is going to affect the system too greatly as many people are more than happy to receive new iterations of game's they've known and loved.

I won't discuss the price at length but all I'll say is Sony better continue to fully support the PS2, and in a more complete way than they did the PS1, if they want to continue to appeal to the masses.

Although visually impressive it's my opinion that Blu-Ray is a non issue for many, particularly those who've never used the term futureproofing, especially considering that HD TV saturation is still extremely low.

It seems to happen every time a system launches I slowly move from meh, to being pretty interested in it as the final date slowly approaches. Have I moved far enough to preorder or look to buy at launch? In short, no. But as new games slowly come trickle onto store shelves after the first few months, I'll definitely be tempted as I'm sure many other will too.


Mark - PALGN Writer

When you talk about there not being shortages Luke, I'm certain that was exactly how you felt about the Wii, although there were shortages for several weeks. It's doubtful there will be a huge shipment for the launch period and I'd imagine consumers would be drawn to the console purely because it's the next product from Sony, regardless of its price. If you remember the PSP, it sold extremely well during its launch period and it was considered to be a tad pricey considering that it was a handheld device.

And the complaint about its price point is wearing a little thin now guys. We've known about its hefty price point for almost a year now, and surely that's enough time to weigh up the decision and prepare for the fee. The package is clearly justifiable, since you're getting several items included that are sold separately for the Xbox 360 and are essential purchases.

I'm happy with the launch date choice, since it has given PAL gamers a chance to sus out verdicts on games and (hopefully) the shortages won't be as bad as America and Japan when the console first launched. Also, with the delay, we've managed to receive the best launch lineup.

I think Sony has done a better job of adapting to all customer needs with its launch lineup, which is better than previous endeavours from Microsoft and Nintendo. There are a bunch of casual games (Tony Hawk, Tiger Woods etc.) and plenty of hardcore games (Resistance: Fall of Man, Virtua Fighter 5 etc.). The only issue that I'm finding is that Sony's upcoming software is a tad bleak, which makes purchasing the console a much harder decision.


Overseas men, women and even children lined up for days to grab a PS3. It will be interesting to see if we see the same scenes in PAL land.

Overseas men, women and even children lined up for days to grab a PS3. It will be interesting to see if we see the same scenes in PAL land.
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Chris - PALGN Writer

I could talk about the expensive price, the inclusion of Blu-ray or even complain about the lack of any form of HD cable out of the box but the PS3 is first and foremost a games console, so let’s not forget that. The one big positive about launching later than the rest of the world is the quantity and quality of the launch lineup that PAL regions will have. Having already took the plunge and picked up a US PS3 there’s only really Resistance: Fall of Man that screams ‘must buy’ and most of my time not playing that has been taken up with the downloadable GT, MotorStorm and Formula 1 demos. Those latter two games will be launch titles along with Virtua Fighter 5, Virtua Tennis 3 and, for those who missed it on PC and Xbox360, Oblivion. Ridge Racer 7 is going to be there, as are Call of Duty 3 F.E.A.R for FPS fans. EA are releasing their entire Xbox 360 catalog for the past 12 months too so, along with Take 2’s 2K7 games, sport lovers won’t be short of options either.

All in all, the launch lineup has a plentiful variety of good quality games with almost every genre represented in one way or another, especially when you consider the downloadable PS Network titles too. The only real big disappointment is the amount of sequels there are compared to original games. Only Resistance and MotorStorm stand out as new exclusive IP’s, the rest is made up of yearly updates and ports. It’s a double edged sword really - If you own an Xbox 360 then there’s a good chance you’ve already sneaked your way through Splinter Cell: Double Agent and skated around Tony Hawk's Project 8, but if the PS3 will be your first next-gen console then I really can’t think of a stronger launch lineup, and at the end of the day, that it what really matters.


David - PALGN Writer

Given the initial shortages in Japan and the USA many of us were quick to believe the rumours that the PS3 would be pushed back even as far as September for PAL territories. And while it's good that they've managed to make their March promise, they can't be happy about the reason they are able to - the PS3 simply isn't selling very well.

Make no mistake about it, the PS3 is in trouble overseas, especially in Japan. Sony announced almost three weeks ago in a press release that the PS3 had already shipped one million in Japan, and two million worldwide. Yet according to Japanese sales data from tracking company Media Create, only 594,134 PS3s had been sold in Japan as of five days ago. Sure, some would still be on the boats, but no where near half a million. A lot of anecdotal evidence from people in Japan suggest there is no stock issue, and stores have even been dropping the price of the console to move them, despite the already much lower local entry price (the 20Gb model's Japanese RRP is ¥49,980, or about AU$520), and yet the PS3 still only sold 19,996 consoles last week. To put this in perspective, the PS2 sold out of every unit for a year, and unless the PS3 sells 60,000 a week for the next three weeks, it will fall behind the Gamecube's life to date performance in Japan for the same point of it's life. In contrast, the Wii is selling as well as the PS2 did life to date, is still in short supply, and and has cleared about 1.4 million consoles already. It seems hurricane DS has permanently changed the Japanese market, and at the moment the PS3 seems to have only a niche position. Sony must act now if they want to do better then that.

And the story apparently isn't much better in the US, with the 360 and the Wii both doing better then the PS3, although it's not as clear cut at this point. The line-ups and crazy ebay prices were only for November, because there were only 200,000 consoles to go around for the US launch. Since then, it's cooled significantly, and major news sources have reported that PS3's are readily available and simply not selling very well, primarily because of the price. How will it do in PAL with even more handicaps (even higher price and missing Christmas)? We'll find out soon enough.

You only buy a console that expensive if you're sure of its future. And as far as I can tell, the PS3's future is far from clear. Not to say it won't win eventually (Sony are still the one to beat), but it's certainly not a sure thing like it was last gen - remember, 80% of PS2s were sold at under US$200. Personally, I think you'd have to be insane to spend a grand on a PS3 at launch if you already own an Xbox 360, from a games perspective. And when it comes to Sony hardware, well, my near launch PS2 started acting up within six months of purchase. If you must take the plunge, at least wait until we know for sure they've got their hardware QA sorted!



So that's it, come March 23, when the next generation has truly started globally, we'll see if any of us has changed our minds. But until then keep on checking back at PALGN for any new PS3 info that may cross our desks.

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40 Comments
5 years ago
The price is the main sticking point with most consumers (and even myself this time).

Great launch line up for the PAL region and it has already been stated DMC 4, FF XIII, MGS 4 and the list goes on. I see the release of FF XIII as an inflection point for the PS3.

I have no doubt when the price is right Sony fans will start slowly but surely migrate their PS2 to PS3.

Nintendo should be proud of their start and they certainly need to keep the "pedal to the metal" as it were. I'm still not convinced that general gamers are as yet purchasing this console but if they keep getting 3rd party support they might just have a winner.

MS have a fab online service and some wicked games heading their way.

Towards the end of this year we may be able make some sense of the diverse strategies of each company. Hopefully it will also end the debate of who releases the first console wins.
5 years ago
The problem is for me, the PS3 is still not complete. Two big points really annoy me about the PS3 at this stage -

1) Doesn't have it's controller compelte it. Rumble will be added on down the track. To me the six-crapis is a joke and in time will be reinvented.
2) Overall implementatoin. The online network, PSP integration, PS1 emulator, basically all off it is not finished. You can see Sony has a massive 'to do' list which they are still madly working on. You can say the same for Nintendo, true, but it's a 4/10th of the cost with a game.

Now I'm not saying the 360 is better, but when the PS3 launches you have a rather compelling arugment to get a 360 instead, with budget games starting to get released.

If anybody is interested I wrote a feature about the state of all 3 consoles here - http://palgn.com.au/viewtopic.php?t=14993
5 years ago
It's anyone's guess how well the system will do in the long run, and how much of the mass market Sony wooed with the PS2 will follow them this time around.

The only question that matters is, "Is it worth buying?"

Which is an easy question. If you don't own a 360? Yes. If you DO own a 360? Not right now.

For my part, I held off on buying a 360 because I wanted to see how the PS3 compared, and from my own personal perspective, its advantages more than make up for the price difference. HDMI, almost 100% PS2 backwards compatability, PS1 titles for PSP, Blu-Ray, quieter, more reliable (haven't heard anywhere near the number of horror stories about launch 360 breakages/scratched discs so far), no external power brick...

If I had more money, of course I'd have a 360 by now and I'd probably hold off on the PS3 for a while. But for those of us who haven't already taken the plunge into next-gen gaming, there's no better time to start.
5 years ago
A grand is a lot of money, especially given none of the launch titles are able to demonstrate that it's value for money. Maybe in 6 months or a year when better games come out the PS3 can show some technical superiority that will justify it's price tag, but given that it's been out now for nearly 3 months in the US and Japan there hasn't been any releases since that would make me want to spend that amount of money. The launch games themselves are a problem - Sony are launching a console with a list of games that have been available on other platforms for too long. F.E.A.R came out in October 2005, Oblivion is nearly a year old - realistically, how much of a market is there left for these games? Are they going to sell a million copies? Are ports of games already available going to move PS3's off the shelf? I just don't think so. Resistance: Fall of Man and Motorstorm look good, but can they do what Halo and Legend of Zelda do - sell consoles? Ports won't be enough to win over Sony's target market - those who want the next-gen, high def graphics because those people already playing those games on the 360 or their PC's.

One of the main problems I think the PS3 is going to have isn't going to be outselling the Xbox 360 or the Wii - it's the PS2. It's still going so strong, with such a huge list of games still being released. You go into any EB store and half the shop is PS2 games. XBox 360's and Wiis are moving off shelves because their predecessors were well beaten, releases dried up, offical support stopped and so their fanbase had to upgrade or face the same problem I have with my GameCube - no new games. PS2 owners just don't have that problem. The list of releases in still massive, and just won't go away any time soon. So why upgrade? Why spend a thousand dollars to play new games when they still have a constant stream of quality titles coming out. Would Sony cut the PS2 to push the PS3 to prominice? Doubt it, they must be raking in massive profit from the PS2 hardware and software now.

The 100 million PS2's out there are just too big a number for developers to ignore. Why spend tens of millions developing HD games on an unproven platform for a fraction of the user base when you can build it today with a known platform, 100 million potential purchasers and plenty of experienced developers used to working on the platform. You also know that pretty much anything that's released for the PS3 by publishers such as EA and Ubisoft is going to be released on the PS2 as well. And I think that's the biggest threat to the PS3 - giving third-party developers a reason to release their games exclusively on the PS3. 10 million Xbox 360's are already out there, and developers have had a good look at the machine - it's a known quantity. What happens when Namco, Sega, Camcom, Square-Enix etc. start doing the math and realise how much money there is to be made releasing their titles on the Xbox360 rather than exclusively on the PS3. What happens if Microsoft start opening up the purse strings to ensure exclusiveness, or at least buy simultaneous releases. Nintendo couldn't hold it's third-party exclusives with the GameCubes comparitively tiny market share. In my opinion, the Playstation 3 is staring at the same scenario.

In short, it's expensive, doesn't have the games that show the reason for it's price, is stuck in the shadow of it's predecessor, is facing a competitor that has a huge head start, both in games and users, and has a resurgent Nintendo targetting the casual users who might well have been the reason for the PS2's original success. It seems the market that Sony is after has already moved to the Xbox 360, and all they have managed to do at launch is provide the same the sort of games Microsoft have been pushing out for some time now. Maybe by the end of the year, if third party publishers can keep the exclusives coming the PS3 may well break through and become the dominant hi-def console. But for the time being, I can't see it being able to push aside either the Xbox 360 or the PS2 to establish itself as the number one console.
5 years ago
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One of the main problems I think the PS3 is going to have isn't going to be outselling the Xbox 360 or the Wii - it's the PS2.
I can't really see how the runaway success of the PS2 will hurt the PS3 much. The target audience for the PS3 at launch is far removed from the average PS2 owner, so I don't think there will be too much crossfire. Some developers will continue to focus primarily on the PS2, but these likely wouldn't migrate to the PS3 until later in its lifecycle anyway.

As for the value for money argument, I don't believe any consoles are genuinely good value at launch. The hardware is at the peak of it's price point and often less reliable than second-generation machines. The games are thin on the ground and frequently only a pale imitation of what will follow. People still buy consoles at launch in droves though, and with the lure of GT5/MGS4/FFXIII on the horizon and the dominance of the PS2 fresh in their minds, I can't see why this launch won't be a success.

I won't be jumping on the bandwagon at launch - or any time soon. I don't have a HDTV and likely won't for a few years, and am pretty content with the lineup of PS2/Wii/DS games for the time being.
5 years ago
The PS3 vexes me.

On the one hand, I really want the machine, as I am sure it is technically very capable, and will play host to dozens of brilliant games in future (DMC4, MGS4, anything by Fumito Ueda).

However, the problem for me is that for the tremendous asking price of 1,000 dollars AUD (with no f'ing HDMI or even component cables, mind you) I will have nothing to play on it come March 23rd.

That's right, zero games which I want but haven't already played on 360. For me, it's stupid to spend a cold, hard grand on a machine with nothing I wanna play on it. By the time Heavenly Sword, DMC4, MGS4, etc come out, many retailers might be lopping off a few dollars, or whatever, and that will be the time for me to seriously consider a PS3.

Right now, it's just a big sexy black box with nothing I wanna put in it (that sounds bad, apologies).

In time, I'm sure it will be worth a purchase.

NOTE: WHAT IF, however, games like MGS4 and DMC4, etc, are ported to 360? Then my decision will become trickier.

I miss the good old days - by the way, does anyone remember how long it took the PS2 to drop from 799 AUD to 500 AUD?
5 years ago
sidzed2 wrote
I miss the good old days - by the way, does anyone remember how long it took the PS2 to drop from 799 AUD to 500 AUD?
It launched at $750 in November 2000 and dropped to $500 in September 2001, according to Wikipedia.
5 years ago
^ Man I thought it was alot quicker than that..
5 years ago
Do we know how much it sold between that time, Spanca?
5 years ago
Very intersting. Can we expect a price drop ala N64 / Xbox pretty soon after launch this time around? The N64 and Xbox struggled here intially and the price drop was to bring it in line with the consoles already on the market. If they knock off 100-200 off the 360 before xmas, Sony may have to discount their expensive black box.

I'm actually considering not getting the HD-DVD add on now since it's coming out so late in Australia (same time as the PS3).Thinking might as well put the $250 towards the PS3 and put my weight behind Blue-Ray. I mean, if HD-DVD wins, can easily get the 360 add on.

RE - VF on PS3. I'd prefer the 360 verison. At least it will have achivements. I'd only ever buy a PS3 game if it was exclusive. 360 wins hands down for cross platform games for achievements and online network in my book everytime.
5 years ago
leonmc wrote
360 wins hands down for cross platform games for achievements and online network in my book everytime.
Achievements were definitely a smart move by Microsoft.

They knew at some point people would be choosing between multiplatform games on PS3 and 360 which were either identical, or graphically superior on the PS3. So they added a feature which is (for all intents and purposes) pointless, but which might sway owners of both consoles in favour of the 360 version.

Of course knowing full well this was the reasoning behind it, I prefer to avoid the situation. In a year or two, only the early adopters will still be paying attention to points anyway. If you buy a 360 this year or next, you don't have a snowball's chance in hell of trying to gain a respectable gamerscore.
5 years ago
renegadesx wrote
It's sort of both, I've been using Linux at home for 10 years and it has suited me fine, its to replace my current computer, I prefer Linux over Windows and that is my personal choice, I have more control over my system, its more secure and it does not crash. I fix Windows computers for a living, I do not want any of that s**t when I get home, Linux has never failed me.
I get loads of **** with linux, the reason why I never touched it. Its no way user friendly, adding drivers and programs is impossible just to listen to mp3 or use my wifi dougle. Mandrake, Lindows, Red hat has crashed on me loads of time, I've had more bugs than windows.
5 years ago
leonmc wrote
360 wins hands down for cross platform games for achievements and online network in my book everytime.
There's a good article about achievements in the January edge magazine, discusses the concept and various implementations across different games, and some interesting comparisons of the different achievements. Some discussion as well about the implications of offering actual rewards for gamerpoints. I never realised that the achievements were mandatory for 360 games, I always thought they were optional. They seem like such a great idea to me, a lot like the ranking medals and ribbons in BF2 that keep dragging me back for one more game. (except for the rather lame ones like the Test Drive Unlimited buy 10 items of Ecko Unlimited branded gear, meh).
5 years ago
Legend wrote
SE already took Dragon Quest off the platform. There will be nothing to lift the sales of the PS3.
I'm not so certain that this point could be used to (perhaps) prove that developers are thinking differently about the PS3 though. Square Enix (as far as I know) have always said that they would release the next version their Dragon Quest series (real version that is) on whatever platform was the highest selling at the time. Whether that's worldwide or just in Japan (I'd say the latter given Japan's love for DQ) is another matter. But yeah, I don't think this point could be used to point out something related to the PS3's position within the industry. (developers, media and so on)

Magrat wrote
(except for the rather lame ones like the Test Drive Unlimited buy 10 items of Ecko Unlimited branded gear, meh).
Some of the achievements in Test Drive were a bit lame, but the actual way the game used them was good as far as I am concerned. The achievements worked with your progress of the game, opening up the race track and Ford Island (for example) as you gained more achievements and therefore Gamerscore. I think I prefer achievements that are related to your progress within a game rather than ones where you must play a game for a certain amount of time or whatever.

Anyway my thoughts on the PS3 are as follows: The PS3 as a console is worth a purchase as far as I am concerned. It has massive potential, it has all the usual franchises that makes Sony's consoles so popular, it's riding on the massive success that was the PS2 and yeah I think the PS3 as a console will be absolutely awesome. Gran Turismo 5 and whatever the ICO/SotC team come up with is enough for me to want the console and I will indeed be getting one.

However, not at launch. The launching of the console has some issues I think, or rather I have issues with what is happening at launch. The price is an obvious one; I might be able to afford a lot more in the way of games and so on these days but $1000 for a gaming console is pushing it for me. Especially when I know that half the reason behind said price is purely because of the Blu-Ray thing and while I am all for new technology, as far as I am concerned it is far too soon for a new medium to be introduced (be it Blu-Ray or HD DVD). DVD is still in its early days (as a primary medium I mean) if you ask me so why should we upgrade just for the sake of upgrading? (and please don't answer that with all the benefits that the new medium/s have, I'm aware of those already but I still feel it's too early for those to become the normal)

Other than the price, like many others there just isn't enough interesting games to justify the price of the console just yet. Motorstorm, Ridge Racer, Resistance, hell even the GT and F1 demo downloads are awesome things that the console has for me, as a racing genre fan, but it is still not enough to justify the purchase just yet. But I am happy to wait anyway. Waiting will in turn allow me to see how the console fares overall compared to the other two (awesome) consoles, it will also allow us to see which medium (Blu-Ray or HD DVD) gains more popularity and it will ultimately allow me (us) to see the potential of the console being realised through the release of more and more games over time. Will I get a PS3 in 2007? Probably not unless the price suddenly drops to what I deem the console to be affordable, but I'm happy to be patient and when the console is affordable to my needs, I will definitely be buying one. Until then, the 360 and the Wii (when I get one) will satisfy my gaming needs.

No way in hell I'm missing out on the PS3 though, Gran Turismo installments cannot be missed by me. No way.
5 years ago
Good article, every one made interesting points. There was one point i thought was stupid, it involved how bad the ps3 is selling in Japan! The figures are low but look at the games japenese gamers have to choose from, last time i heard Resistance was the best selling ps3 game. Granted it is the best game currently on the console, but the Japanese have never been fans of FPS! I also saw a totally rushed version of motorstorm go to the top selling ps3 games also!

Yes sales are slow in Japan, but i think we should wait until a game like Virtua Fighter 5 is realsed utill we really judge how the console is going in the land of the rising sun.
5 years ago
^ Rumour of price cut in Japan to get the stalled sales process working again.
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