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24 May, 2010

EveryonePlays: Sample Petitions Mailed to SA Attorney-General – Part 4

PALGN Feature | Three Points-of-View
Hi all,

This past Easter break I was in Adelaide for a family reunion. While waiting for the rental car paperwork to get processed, I picked up the local metro newspaper, The Advertiser, and discovered some well placed points-of-view on the R18+ rating for PC and Video Game issue.

Given that I had received a phone call from John Rau’s office a couple of days prior to the recent SCAG meeting in Melbourne, I think you’ll find the following an interesting read.

First Point-of-View

The Editor of The Advertiser, Melvin Mansell, wrote an editorial feature with the headline “It’s time to act on video game ratings”. He presented a point-of-view that, from where I sit, mirrors PALGN / GAME press releases.

Mansell went on to say, “the gaming lobby has collected tens of thousands of names on petitions calling for the introduction of an R18+ classification.” (No mention that in just 8 weeks the PALGN / GAME “wet signature” petition count surpassed the November 2005 “Work Choices” online petition count of 85,189. And, to think, “Work Choice” was a driver, among others, that brought down the Howard Government.)

“Only the ACT Government has come out to support of an R18+ classification, during the Federal Government’s inquiry into the issue.”

“Former Attorney-General Michael Atkinson was the most vocal opponent of the R18+ classification. His replacement John Rau has so far been silent on the issue and needs to remove himself from the fence in the near future.”

“This is an issue that is not going to go away. The Federal Government now has the chance to formulate a policy that satisfies the overriding need to protect our children from inappropriate material, and also reform a system that already allows it.”

Second Point-of-View

On a different page of the newspaper Miles Kemp from The Advertiser wrote a story with the headline “Why ban on sex and violence must stay”.

Kemp continued, “Australia should keep its ban on R18+ games because children could be damaged by the act of participating in simulated violence and sex, says Guardian for Children Pam Simmons.”

Ms Simmons who is the woman in charge of protecting the rights of children in SA, said “people should understand that watching simulated domestic violence, for example, on a DVD was totally different from getting involved or children watching parents or older siblings getting involved. We are talking about high-impact violence including sexual and domestic violence and the game participation in drug use.”

Simmons went onto say, “there was new evidence as recently as two weeks ago showing the link between the actual participation of violence in games and violent behaviour.”

“No matter how well we think it will be controlled, we cannot control everything, and there will be situations where children are using the games, watching older siblings or adults playing them,” she said.

Miles Kemp continued “Victims of Crime Commissioner Michael O’Connell said while R18+ violence in movies was clearly entertainment, participating in make-believe violence in a game created less empathy.

“Participating in make-believe violence does have the potential to minimize the understanding the player has on the effect that violence will have on other people, continued O’Connell.

Third Point-of-View

Again, on a different page of the newspaper The Advertiser wrote a story with the headline “ALP pledge on R+ games”.

“AUSTRALIAN Christian Lobby SA claims Labor has given a written promise to oppose introduction of an R18+ classification for violent and sexualized video games. Director Rob Ward said the party responded to a pre-election survey indicating changes to the current regime would harm children.”

Mr Ward said, “the pledge throws cold water on suggestions Attorney-General John Rau will agree to reform, and contradict, his predecessor’s opposition to the classification.”

Before I knew it, the car rental documentation had been processed. It felt like one of the shortest, hassle free waits I’ve ever had in a car rental office. Separately, from my side, the journey continues. We now move to phase 2.

Best,

Roland

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7 Comments
1 year ago
Interesting points raised here in these articles.. Many of these Anti-R18+ seem to use the "Violent Sexual" conduct card.. From what I could tell though, those sorts of games, say 'Rapelay' surpass the scope of an R18+ rating, and be banned anyway..

I myself have played that game, which really was more for novelty and then it was deleted due to a lack of any other kind of gameplay asside from what the name would suggest - really wasnt that exciting... But many countries with the R18+ rating still banned that one, and the reason is of course what the game is about.

Many game's though, the reason that gets them banned is not central to the game's goals, ie the use of Drug terms in Fallout 3. (honestly that particular need for modification was rediculous.. you dont even see the player using the drug, so it calling it Morphine or Chems, did it really change much? Honestly Chems sounds more sus...

Anyways thankyou at least for giving us more insight into opinions coming out of SA. Feel sorry for the hardcore gamers hailing from there as their state seems to get a bad reputation for these Anti-R18+ views..

/ Anthony.
1 year ago
We've just got 'some' moronic politicians and conserative groups. The majority of the general public, IMO, would agree to an introduction of R18+.

The whole Sexual / Violence card is the same old scare tactics aimed to garner enough public opposition to bury this idea. Fortunately for us, you take those 89,000 petition signatures and add to that their respective relatives and family groups who these 89,000 people are in communication with and you have a very large group of people who are informed on this issue.

Maybe we need to get the newspapers on our side, or at least 'someone' from the newspapers. The more positive feeds about this topic to the general public the better. The problem will lie in the education of the generation of people born before the gaming generation took hold (Yes, you, Pacman Masters). This group, I think they're the baby boomers, of people still hold a considerably strong position in the opinion stakes of the general public and, unless educated on how the world has changed for gamers, or hasn't in our case, they will continue to be swayed by the opposing politicians also from that era. I still haven't heard any radio or television messages about these issues. Is this something that is possible? Without a larger campaign to change general opinion this may still fall flat on its face.

Also, regarding the fact Wrath-of-Jupiter has played RapeLay, Disgusting mate...enjoying the novelty of forcing a 10 yrd old child to perform sexual acts to your avatar (I know this because I have read with Wikipedia article in case you were curious) ...You're only one dimension away from becoming a full blown paedophile...if you're not already there. *hands raised and clapping sarcastically*
1 year ago
pah to the Christian lobby. Maybe if they focused more on actual crimes being committed in the church itself against impressionable youths and less on video-games the church wouldn't be in the state its in.
1 year ago
Interesting that there would be three articles on the issue in one day in Adelaide. In th Herald Sun, there's usually only about one article per week on this issue, and half the time it's a letter by Michael Carr-Greg in the Letters section. He's a child psychologist who is very much against the change to R18+. His letters are always one of the first couple after whatever the "big issue" of the day is (in today's paper, the "big issue" is the Barry Hall thing), yet if there is a pro R18+ letter, it's always the last, or second last, where people are much less likely to see it. Seems like the nations largest selling paper is taking the easy way out, that being the way of no change.

They've never been any different, though.
1 year ago
Just need to inform people that the only change will be that games that are currently rated MA15 will now be R18, meaning less violent games for 15-18 year olds. This won't result in more violent or pornographic games being released in Australia, once you explain that to people they generally say "Oh, well that sounds great, why haven't they done that already?". My girlfriend refused to sign the petition until I explain that to her and she thought it was stupid that it hadn't just been done.
1 year ago
OneManARSNL wrote
Also, regarding the fact Wrath-of-Jupiter has played RapeLay, Disgusting mate...enjoying the novelty of forcing a 10 yrd old child to perform sexual acts to your avatar (I know this because I have read with Wikipedia article in case you were curious) ...You're only one dimension away from becoming a full blown paedophile...if you're not already there. *hands raised and clapping sarcastically*
I checked it out too after all the controversy and was amused at how overblown it was. The game itself is a piece of crap (still immoral though) and it's no wonder it never sold any copies. I've seen plenty of movies that had examples of **** in them, while this is an interactive experience the whole thing isn't immursive at all. The fact that it is completely legal in Japan and was sold only in Japan makes it an interesting issue as to whether or not we can tell them what they can and can't sell over there. It 100% shouldn't have been allowed to be sold and shipped overseas without passing classification which is how it got into the media in the first place (years after it was released). Every culture has stuff that other cultures don't agree with. Some countries have religious stuff, others have no problem with insane amounts of violence, etc.
In any case Wrath-of-Jupiter said that they looked at the game out of novelty, same with me. The media blew it up into a big deal so I was intrigued by what the hell it was. It was stupid and not the kind of thing I'm even remotely interested in so I laughed to myself about what some japanese find interesting and deleted it. I had now seen the game and could discuss it from an informed viewpoint. Thankfully the media blow up meant retailers stopped allowing it to be sold outside Japan.
1 year ago
el_rezzo wrote
In any case Wrath-of-Jupiter said that they looked at the game out of novelty, same with me. The media blew it up into a big deal so I was intrigued by what the hell it was. It was stupid and not the kind of thing I'm even remotely interested in so I laughed to myself about what some japanese find interesting and deleted it. I had now seen the game and could discuss it from an informed viewpoint. Thankfully the media blow up meant retailers stopped allowing it to be sold outside Japan.
Thanks man, you totally understand where Im coming from! My reason for playing it was to see how bad it really was since the media made a big fuss out of it, and former AG Atkinson kept using it as an example of why we shouldnt have those kinds of games here.. I myself didnt actively go and look for it though =O!

I was at a lan party and saw someone playing something a little sus, and I asked and he said what it was, and I thought "meh.. I'll take a look at it".. really, the "10" year old looked 18, and the others looked older than that.. and even then, it was a crap game, not really fun, and frankly did nothing for me in a sexual way =/.. I dont take offence though by "OneManARSNL"s comments, as in truth, there was a violation of law when I tried that game since it's RC.. but at least having played it, I can form my own opinion first hand, rather than just read about it from someone else. Honestly, i think it was overdramatized cause it had a very anime look to it, and even so, somehow I think the Grand theft auto "Hot Coffee" thingo seemed more realistic in its simulation..

I know I aint a pedophile or have ****-like tendencies, but anyhoo I respect that people can critisize me for having played the game. Like I said in my initial post, I played it, didnt find it at all a good game, and deleted it. Enough said there I guess XD!
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