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20 Mar, 2009

An R rating would protect children

PALGN Feature | Michael Atkinson is right to want to protect children, he's just going about it the wrong way.
Michael Atkinson’s heart is in the right place.

Mr Atkinson, the South Australian Attorney-General who is currently blocking the introduction of an R18+ rating for Australian video games, is not the devil. He’s not crushing your democratic rights just because he hates gamers, and he’s not doing it because his mother didn’t nurse him as a child.

Here at PALGN, we believe that he is genuinely concerned with protecting children from adult material available in some video games. And we agree with him. We just think he’s going about it the wrong way.

There is no doubt that the games industry is maturing and a high proportion of today’s gamers are now adults, leading to the development of more titles suited to an older audience. Improvements in graphics and technology are also allowing the violence level in games to become more realistic every day. We need an R18+ rating to keep up with this growing demand, otherwise many of these games will continue to get into the hands of children through the less restrictive MA15+ rating.

South Australian Attorney General, Michael Atkinson: Not the devil

South Australian Attorney General, Michael Atkinson: Not the devil
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Let’s look first at the current classification system for games in Australia. There are four classifications – G, PG, M15+ and MA15+. It more or less works the same as the film classification system ratings. The MA15+ rating is the only games rating that is legally binding, meaning retailers can be fined for selling or hiring these games to people under 15 unless they are with their parents or guardian.

No R18+ rating causing inconsistencies in classification
The story goes that the MA15+ symbol was introduced in Australia in 1994 largely as a result of then Prime Minister Paul Keating’s confusion as to why a relatively mild movie like Crocodile Dundee was receiving the same classification as a movie with high impact violence and sexual themes like Cape Fear.

The same thing is happening today with computer games because of a lack of an R18+ rating: games that have high impact violence and themes are being lumped in with games that don't. According to the Classification Board’s Guidelines of the Classification of Films and Computer Games, the criteria for violence states that it must be "justified by context”.

Let’s look at a handful popular video games – Grand Theft Auto 4, Call of Duty: World at War, Fallout 3, and MadWorld – and see whether the violence is actually justified by context.

First of all, let’s consider Grand Theft Auto 4. The game has a gritty set of missions and each one has a pretty well established context for some of the violent tasks you are asked to do. However, what about the violence you can perform outside of the mission structure? In this section of the game, you are allowed to hop into a car and run down pedestrians, shoot at old ladies, and kill police officers. So this raises the question: what context is GTA4 giving the player to perform such full-on acts of violence allow it to fit under an MA15+ rating?

Not pictured - dead grannies.

Not pictured - dead grannies.
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And what about MadWorld, the new Sega title that its website excitedly proclaims has “Blood soaked action for the Wii”? You play a former marine with a chainsaw on his arm who competes in a violent television show. So under the MA15+ guidelines there is a context for the killing, that is, surviving the competition. However, the violence is over-the-top and – in our opinion – of a much higher level than most other MA15+ titles. There is really no context given for having the ability to impale enemies on street signs or to rip out their hearts. In fact, the entire gameplay is based around killing people, and the more violent the death, the more points the player gets.

Then there’s Fallout 3 where for the most part its violence is justified through the missions you undertake, and are carried out in the context of a harsh, post-apocalyptic world. In many situations, you can also choose to talk your way out of a fight and there are often consequences for choosing violence as a course of action. So far so good.

However, the game also allows you to walk into a civilised town and wipe out everyone, including defenceless women and old people, targeting body parts and blowing off heads in graphic detail. Thankfully, you can’t kill the children. Again we ask, what is the context that justifies you slaughtering innocent people that makes it fit for an MA15+ rating?

Gamers lose their minds for Fallout 3.

Gamers lose their minds for Fallout 3.
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Don’t get us wrong – we’re not saying adults shouldn’t be allowed to play these games. In fact, the R18+ rating as it applies to films would comfortably accommodate the violence in these three games. Under the R18+ rating for movies, there is no caveat which says that violence has to in any sort of context. There is no mention of any requirements at all, and it merely states: “Violence is permitted.” In our opinion, this makes the R18+ rating a perfect place for the high-impact violence in these games.

Let’s then consider Call of Duty 4: World at War. Sure, this game contain oodles of violence and strong war themes, but the context for why you need to kill people is given to you clearly at the start of every mission. The violence is not overly gratuitous; you can’t use anything other than standard weapons and you can’t kill innocent people. This game clearly justifies its violence and is the sort of game that the MA15+ rating can comfortably accommodate. Other games that fit here comfortably include the Halo and Resistance series.

The introduction of an R18+ rating would lower the number of high impact games being allowed through the classification process with an MA15+ rating.

The R18+ rating offers additional protection
Currently, the MA15+ classification is the only legally enforceable one for games in Australia. Each state and territory has its own legislation in regards to penalties for selling MA15+ and R18+ rated material to minors. However, penalties are generally greater for the sale of R18+ rated material to minors than for MA15+ material.

For example, in NSW the maximum penalty for selling an MA15+ rated game to a minor is up to $5,500 for a person and $11,000 for a corporation. For an R18+ rated film the maximum penalty is double that. In Tasmania, the sale of a MA15+ game to a minor can attract up to a $2,200 fine, but for an R18+ rated film, it is up to $5,500 and/or a 12 month jail term.

Is the violence in MadWorld worth getting cut up about?

Is the violence in MadWorld worth getting cut up about?
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It makes sense that an R rating for games would offer the same punishments that the R rating for films currently offers, providing a greater deterrent against retailers doing the wrong thing and keeping potentially damaging content away from minors.

More parents understand the R18+ rating
The only survey we could find on the level of recognition and comprehension of the classification system was a 2002 report from the Office of Film and Literature Classification titled Australian Consumers’ Understanding of Classification Information. The report found that the MA15+ symbol is not well recognised or understood in either movie or film classification. The report found that:

There is obvious confusion with regard to the MA15+ symbol. It is most commonly interpreted (40%) to indicate a film is for mature audiences. Consumers are failing to distinguish the “accompanied” and legally restrictive elements of MA15+ from that of the M15+ classification.

While the recognition and understanding of the MA15+ rating has probably improved over the past seven years since this report was issued, it still would not be as recognisable as the R18+ rating which has been around since 1971.

War is hell in Call of Duty.

War is hell in Call of Duty.
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With regard to the R18+ classification, the majority (65%) of people recognised it and understood it according to the survey. A further 23% gave responses that indicated they knew the symbol meant that the material was for adults, and not children. The Classification Board concluded that there seems to be "little confusion with this symbol".

So if an R18+ rating was put on games with high impact content, such as those just scraping in under the MA15+ classification, parents would better understand it and know that they shouldn't be letting their young children play it.

Change will not happen overnight
Let’s be honest here. Game classification is not a high priority for politicians at the best of times, least of all in the current economic climate. However, we need to band together as a gaming community. Too many of us are playing right into the hands of conservative politicians by writing defamatory letters and emails to people such as Mr Atkinson, and even sending death threats. This only helps to strengthen their perception that gamers are immature and that playing violent games causes people to be violent.

The fact is, Mr Atkinson was voted in by the public so it’s not just his opinion we need to change. The issue needs to be raised at every level of government and at every level of the community. Write to your local member for parliament, write to your state’s Attorney General, talk to your friends and family about the issue and make some noise. But do it sensibly!

If there is enough pressure from the South Australian people and from other politician, Mr Atkinson will be forced to listen and put the issue back into the public arena where it belongs. Show him that the gaming community is intelligent, can handle adult material, and is a strong-knit group that will vote against him if he ignores us.

Dangle a carrot, don’t throw a hand grenade.


As part of the push for an R rating, PALGN has helped create a new website specifically aimed at raising awareness of the issue - http://everyoneplays.org.au.

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45 Comments
3 years ago
Karai Pantsu wrote
Actually, ~90% of Australia Adults (including non-gamers) polled believe that introducing an R18+ rating to games is a good idea (to paraphrase previous articles, Everyoneplays.org.au, etc.). There is only one person in government holding this back. It is ridiculous.
This 1 guy should not be able to force this law all by himself then? The government should work for the people. If we vote for something we want, THEY HAVE TO GO BY THE WINNING VOTE. If we took this guy to court I'm sure we can win the case.
3 years ago
Alright ... Mike here at work is around 50 something? And I was just talking to him about the R18+ issue.

I was telling him about Manhunt. I said "I'm a female, normal in most ways, but you know what? I like this sort of game" and went on to talk about other games (GTA etc)

His reply? .... "hmmm they should ban the games, and not let them into the country atall so the kids don't get their hands on them"

I then went on to tell him about the mother who bought her 12yr old GTA IV and said "He's mature for his age" and the mother probably had no idea what the child was playing, only that they asked for it so the mother bought it.

I was telling him perhaps there should be stricter policies on who can buy the games (photo ID etc) and perhaps parents being more aware of what their children are playing. I brought up points about movies and tv shows with ratings and restrictions for the reasons of violence and sex, swearing etc etc etc and why this wouldn't work the same for games?

Mike still thinks these games should be banned and not allowed into the country atall. And that I'll just have to miss out on the game.

*frustrated*
3 years ago
well, presumably he runs for office on topics other than backwards logic, this just happens to be 1 part of his overall ticket.

everything else he stands for might be completely logical and rational, and even beneficial to his electorate, but in voting for those things, voters also vote for this nugget of annoyance. like it or not, the rating issue probably isn't really a major issue for most people.

(note: i've actually got no idea what his other policies are, but they must be somewhat popular for him to continually be voted in.)
3 years ago
He did outlaw bikie gangs and i'm pretty sure he got lot's of plaudits for that.
Basically belonging to any bikie gang in SA makes you a criminal automatically i believe.
3 years ago
^Wow that is beyond stupid if true, possibly on par with being as stupid as banning R18 games, but luckly I have no desire to join a bikie gang.

Actually it's not quite as stupid, it would be more like instead of banning bikie gangs, making the members who are considered highly dangerous by every western country bar Australia to go and ride around on BMX bikes with kids who just turned 15.
3 years ago
Adeptus wrote
renegadesx wrote
Not to mention the UK openly slapping down free speech, the US Patriot Act and similar copycats... George Orwell must be turning in his grave.
No, just screaming "I told you so!"
(and only 25 years behind schedule)
You do realise Orwell has been dead for almost 60 years
3 years ago
Hey guys, I just had a thought. I was thinking, if we introduce R18+ we will see what, 3 games more a year max? With games slipping into the MA15+ category, it means more sales on games. I know would sell allot less GTA (all of em) if it were R18+ because as it stands, parents are allowed to buy these for their kids, thus generating healthier sales. I actually am now not sure if I want R18+ for games, because if it does get implemented, sales of some game would literally drop and drop hard because ignorant parents will then not buy them for their kids. Maybe we aught to consider leaving this system as it is for the sake of sale and economy? What do you think? Perhaps this could be Michael Atkinson's secret hidden agenda as to why he is stopping R18+? if it is, very clever and not as dumb as I thought you were Michael Atkinson.
3 years ago
avjamash wrote
I actually am now not sure if I want R18+ for games, because if it does get implemented, sales of some game would literally drop and drop hard because ignorant parents will then not buy them for their kids.
Can't see how is that ignorant on the parents part. One of the major reason why Michael Atkinson didn't want R18+ because it was children may get its hand on it through an adult or other means. Its his way of trying to protect the kids, is it right or wrong, I won't judge his decisions. The ratings are there as guidelines for parents to follow. Whatever the parents do is up to them whether or not to follow the rating.


I agree there would be a lot less sale of GTA, but it will get it sales back when the people who can't get it turns to a legal age to obtain it. So there might just be a 3 years period of lower than usual cash flow but it is only for a minority of games anyway. And remember this is just Australia too, it shouldn't be too devastating on the accounting report for the publishers, but gaming stores can hold on for 3 years.


Edit - about the economy
3 years ago
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Maybe we aught to consider leaving this system as it is for the sake of sale and economy?
No
3 years ago
Ok Island wolf, i hear you , but dont you see he is either dumb or blind for blocking R18+? thats the point i am trying to make here, and as a retailer, i sell a parent gta (or something similar) for their under 13 year old (and as young as 5) at least 3 or 4 times a week, and at release? it was as much as 2 or 3 a day average over a few weeks. so waiting 3 years? some maybe waiting 10 years before they are of legal age to purchase. These parents are either ignorant, or don't give a SH!T. And you fail to bring to argument that THE GAMES ARE ALL READY HERE, GTA should be R18+ and Fallout 3, the list can go forever, but with R18+ its restricted like PORN, give to kids, and your in trouble. Most of you argue for R18+ to get the games, I want it to stop these idiot parents buying 5 year olds GTA and Kane & Lynch, or Saints Row. I over it, i posted what i did earlier to prove a point, to show how dumb this is. I honestly don't think we will get many more games by having an R18+ as there are still set criteria to block particular content (currently in use for MA15+ or giving a game RC) So if we get R18+ chances are, that content will still be BANNED. but overall, the games that are slipping through at MA15+ will hopefully be correctly classified into R18+. Do you understand yet? no? well stop playing games and educate your mind a little. Im MASH, im 24, i sell games, and im sick of selling ADULT games to parents for their 5 to 12 y.o. kids. Even after i warn half of em, i just gave up and sell them the game now. (to the parents that is). I can argue all day, why? cuz im angry!
3 years ago
So basicly what you're saying is
"Hey don't mind me encroaching your personal freedoms, it makes more profit in the end so it's all good"

Yeah... how about no?
3 years ago
Atkinson is disingenuous to say the least. All of his arguments have been completely refuted.

When he is confronted with this he rubs his fingers together childishly and accuses everyone of being motivated by money. Which in itself is an argument that has been refuted - we are talking about 3-6 games a year here! Hardly enough money for people to be going around commissioning surveys and rallying public opinion.

He is blocking public consultation because he thinks he knows better - he does not. It really is that simple. Support organisations like Everyone Plays and get this into the mainstream.

And stop sending the guy abusive e-mails and letters - he loves them and uses them as an example of why Australian gamers cannot be trusted. He makes my blood boil too but he is thriving on the abuse and using it to further his cause!
3 years ago
i think we do support everyone plays around here for some reason...
3 years ago
As a gamer I might surprise many of you by being against R18+ - probably not for the reason you think. In the US they generally make games to target a low classification because it hurts sales going to T or R or whatever. If we have R18+ here there could be a lot of games being nobbled to ensure MA instead of R. Gamers already complain about the GTA4 cuts but they could get worse to avoid the new R rating. The other effect could be what happened with Nintendo Australia during the GameCube era where they just didn't bother releasing some games here - TimeSplitters 3.

I'm socially responsible as well as selfish though and I agree with avjamash and the article that MA15+ means nothing to parents with regards to videogames. I believe Mr Atkinson is completely wrong by saying no R18+ for games is protecting children because like avjamash's anecdotal evidence says, parents are the ones buying the games most of the time.
3 years ago
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As a gamer I might surprise many of you by being against R18+ - probably not for the reason you think. In the US they generally make games to target a low classification because it hurts sales going to T or R or whatever. If we have R18+ here there could be a lot of games being nobbled to ensure MA instead of R.
Games are usualy cut content wise to avoid an R rating in the US as Wallmart, who is one of there biggest retailers refuse to shelf an R rated products. As far as I'm aware we don't have that situation here.
3 years ago
^And on top of that, how many people make games primaraly for the Austrlaian market?
3 years ago
Benza wrote
As far as I'm aware we don't have that situation here.
Correct, we don't because we don't have any R rated games. icon_smile.gif R rated games would have to be kept in cabinets like R rated movies currently are in big reatilers. That adds cost and affects margins.

Qbert wrote
how many people make games primaraly for the Australaian market?
I don't mean they're made for here and that's the problem. Instead they'll be shoehorned into our ratings.

These things will hurt sales and may lead to some retailers not stocking them which could in turn lead to a)distributors not bothering because we're such a small market, or more likely b)games which would just fall into R rating getting cut like they currently do. Fully R games would probably stay R. Just possible outcomes as I see it.
3 years ago
Only one way to find out......
3 years ago
mrbign wrote
Benza wrote
As far as I'm aware we don't have that situation here.
Correct, we don't because we don't have any R rated games. icon_smile.gif R rated games would have to be kept in cabinets like R rated movies currently are in big reatilers. That adds cost and affects margins.
with the exception of those R-rated porn titles (Playboy DVDs etc.), i've never seen a big retailer housing R-rated DVDs behind glass, or away from the "regular" DVDs.

however, i don't think it's a bad idea to have such a rule for any R-rating for games. it should at least promote carding of customers looking to buy them, something that is supposed to happen for R-rated DVDs/Books (etc.), yet doesn't.
3 years ago
Sorry to be so late in replying...

Your article was good, well argued. I have thought this before but it was put together quite cogently. But Atkinson does not really state what he really wants, he only hints at it.

He wants power, SA is rather a police state. He doesn't want to protect the children... he wants to "protect" ALL of us, from ourselves. He wants control over the CONTENT of all videogames, e.g. Resident Evil 5 (he proudly states he's had it, and others, censored here). This he would lose with an "R" classification.

It's pretty damn obvious he will never listen to "thoughtful considered reasoning" on anyone's part since this is his actual agenda. He's not misguided or stupid... he's laughing at you/us.

PS: He's just a turd.
3 years ago
renegadesx wrote
Adeptus wrote
renegadesx wrote
Not to mention the UK openly slapping down free speech, the US Patriot Act and similar copycats... George Orwell must be turning in his grave.
No, just screaming "I told you so!"
(and only 25 years behind schedule)
You do realise Orwell has been dead for almost 60 years
I believe he's referring to his work '1984'.
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