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19 Aug, 2008

Dyack hits out at Epic

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The rather talkative Denis Dyack - president of Canadian developer Silicon Knights - has slammed Epic Games (the ones hard at work on Gears of War 2) for taking the legal battle between the companies to the press.

Silicon Knights originally licensed Epic's Unreal engine middleware for use in the upcoming Xbox 360 game, Too Human. You may have heard of it. However, relations turned sour between the companies when Silicon Knights filed a lawsuit against Epic in July last year - apparently Epic didn't provide enough support to Silicon Knights after the agreement was made.

Mark Rein, an Epic boss-type, notified the media that the claims made by Silicon Knights were rubbish, retaliating with a lawsuit of their own that suggested that the Canadian developer wanted to simply take Epic's technology without paying for it.

"We had no intentions of playing it out in the press, and Epic was the one who brought it to the press," Dyack told GamesIndustry.biz. "We were quite happy with it not being brought up in the press at all: it's a thing for the courts we think needs to be held separately."

As a result of this crazy legal business, Silicon Knights were forced to alter the Too Human game engine.

"It certainly was a very difficult hurdle to overcome," said Dyack. "Having to rewrite the engine wasn't something we wanted to do, nor something we planned on doing and is something no developer should have to do."

As you would expect, Dyack noted that "It's been a while," since he last spoke with Rein.

Oddly enough, Too Human was released in the US today. Expect it on PAL shelves later this month.

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9 Comments
1 year ago
Hard to know who is in the wrong here if its not both of them. However, Silicon Knight isn't the first developer to have problems with the UE3 engine.
1 year ago
Am I the only one thinking he's starting to bring this all up again to hide the noise of Too human bombing?
1 year ago
Honestly, all his whining to anyone in the press who'll listen is really turning me off Too Human and any further Silicon Knights games. Which is a shame, because I've been looking forward to giving Too Human a bash for a long time now, despite the lackluster previews (and now reviews).

For all I know he could be entirely in the right here, and Epic might not have fulfilled their side of the contract, but his behaviour throughout (especially re: Too Human criticism) leaves me cold.
1 year ago
If only things hadnt gone sour and they had used the UT3 engine, maybe the game wouldn't suck so hard (yes basing my views purely on the demo not the full game)
1 year ago
Dear Denis

If you spent half the time making Too Human as you have being a super-douche, it might actually have been decent. Ah well, try again in 10 years.
1 year ago
Poor Denis. He seems like a fairly smart bloke and I thought his rant on 1UP Yours was really intelligent (even if directed at people who wouldn't get it). People might want to stop bashing him and Too Human or we'll lose a real developer and be stuck with minigame and petz cloners.
1 year ago
Considering the possible scope for any single game engine to be used is it inherently Epics problem if every developer in existence decided to use their engine all had problems and then simply through numbers didn't get "adequate help for them" and taken to court? And as we know court cases tend to go public and tend to be negative on at least one party involved yet they were happy for it not to be in the press so Epic were supposed to cop any and all remarks and opinions on the chin. Would they have the same opinion if the situation was reversed?

Can't help but think if half the people blaming the parent companies actually learned how to use the items they were pissy over there'd be one less thing to complain about.
1 year ago
He has a point.

I hate the way Epic conduct their business. They are mass media whores who love gamers gravelling at their feet and worshipping every new title they churn out. CliffyB and Mark Rein are the two guiltiest parties.

I don't really agree with a lot of Dyack's whining, especially the stuff directed at GAF, but in this case I'm on his side.

The legal issues between Epic and Silicon Knights have nothing to do with gamers, and while it might be interesting to know, there's no reason to know. Making a public deal out of it is just attention seeking.
1 year ago
This is why I not touching Too Human with a 10ft pole. Dyack is constantly promoting TH and not on its merits. Anything to push the profile of the game out there.

And the abysmal reviews of course. Why buy a middlingly average game when I can buy better games with my money. I wont be supporting SK.



No other major developer have had SK's issues with UE3. In fact, UE3, has enabled a lot of other titles to be produced this gen. A bunch of really good looking titles too. so yes. Meh to SK/Dyack and their inaptitude.
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