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28 Feb, 2008

SA Attorney-General to oppose R18+ classification

PALGN News | Give up hope.
A few days ago we reported that the Federal government would be once again discussing the issue of an R18+ rating for games in Australia.

In order for the rating legislation to change, the attorneys-general of each state must agree on the issue. In 2002, a proposal to introduce an R18+ rating was blocked because South Australian Attorney-General Michael Atkinson did not support the changes.

Today a spokesperson for Michael Atkinson has told news.com.au that the Attorney-General will oppose the R18+ Rating for games, effectively putting down any hope of an R18+ rating being implemented for games in the near future.

"The Attorney-General remains very firmly opposed to introducing an R rating for computer games in Australia," the spokesperson said. Minister Atkinson would not consider an 18+ rating even if there were measures to protect children from being exposed to adult content, the spokesperson said.

"He doubts whether any safeguards could be put in place to deter young people, who after all [are] the most computer literate and savvy in our society, from being able to access material."

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70 Comments
4 years ago
I'll try and organise a raid from the Australian members of the unmentionable website tonight.
4 years ago
What really pisses me off when parents come out of the blue and say what if my little Billy gets there hands on it. Well what if Billy got his hands on hostel and saw what the **** is the difference. This is the major thing i hate about Australia they never change with the bloody time because it's to much hard work.

I am sorry this is why i hate all the soccer mums out there blaming the media instead of themselves and there skills. I really don't think a R+ will come ever here. I think we are all forced to import games which i am told is not illegal. So that's my last hope. I am sorry for being angry but this really pisses me off. I also heard from a friend on the ABC radio that the QLD attorney General doesn't want R+ system either. **** Australia!
4 years ago
Here is the email I recently sent:

Hon. Michael Atkinson,

Recently the issue of an R18+ Rating Classification was raised once again and as reported at www.news.com.au dated the 27th of February, a spokesperson from your office stated that:

"The Attorney-General remains very firmly opposed to introducing an R rating for computer games in Australia. He doubts whether any safeguards could be put in place to deter young people, who after all (are) the most computer literate and savvy in our society, from being able to access material."

I agree on your points about young people being the most computer literate and savvy in our society, it is 100% true. However in the context of not all parents being computer literate and savvy, it would be in their best interests, first and foremost, to know there's a ratings classification which allows them to have an informed choice about which computer and video games they allow their children and teenagers under the age of 18 to purchase, regardless of their level of literacy with the product, because it's mainly the content that needs to be examined.

Parents need to be informed of things they don't fully understand in order to be better parents and do their job. If there's any risk it's with those parents who are not of a sound mind, who don't understand the negative effects of exposing their children to games that are graphically violent, and fail to realise it's not suitable to purchase that product for them.

There's a reason films recieve R18+ Ratings and that's so parents and guardians will know what sort of content to expect in that piece of entertainment (which computer and video games also are, it's just that it's a more interactive form of entertainment, which I will elaborate on further in this email), and see that it's not suitable for those under the age of 18.

A stereo-typical view of Computer and Video Games is that it's a form of entertainment aimed and marketed towards children. This is no longer true, and even in the past there have been games made that are targeted to the adult audience, but without an adequate ratings system, the games targeted to adults were also being purchased by minors. I don't need to insult your intelligence by giving you definitions of the difference between a child and an adult. However there may be some who need this definition explained to them.

I mentioned earlier about computer and video games being an interactive form of entertainment. With films the level of interactivity is minimal, the audience is engaging themselves mentally in what is being presented on screen, even sometimes expressing themselves verbally. Computer and Video Games are interactive in this respect also. However the level of interactivity doesn't stop there. Computer and Video Games allow the player, who is simultaneously the audience, to control the character on screen via the controller. This is the nature of Computer and Video games as a form of interactive entertainment.

What does this have to do with an R18+ Rating Classification? It demonstrates that while the method in which the content is absorbed by the player/audience is different to film, it doesn't change the fact that the content needs to be matched with a rating that informs the buyer (who in many cases is the parent) of what to expect, in order to make an informed choice.

I do not live in South Australia but I am a part of the entire country's Computer and Video Game culture. I believe it is in the best interest of Australians as a nation, to have adequate ratings classifications that cover the whole gamut of content relative to it's level of intensity, so parents are informed about the content found in Computer and Video Games, regadless of their level of literacy with the actual product. It's the content that needs to be the main focus.

I want to thank you for taking the time to read this email and I hope that if there are things you don't understand about the Computer and Video Game Industry and those who are a part of the gaming culture, that some light has been shed by this and any other emails you may receive that are in favour of an R18+ Rating for Computer and Video Game in Australia, a country that is run by a democracy.

Regards,

Rod Petrie
4 years ago
Well like little billy, i powered my way through this sort of content when i was young eg: i saw nearly every horror movie made by the time i was 12, good god, i watched evil dead at the age of 10, guess what, i haven't killed anyone and i hold down a good job, if anything it has given me a better perspective on life and death. And besides that, not once did i watch a horror film and say my god is this real, should i be going around doing these things, of course i **** didn't. There is what, 6 billion people on the earth, there is always going to be lunatics, even if you wrap them in cotton wool for their whole lives, which i think would make me far more angry than if i watched or played a violent video game. Hang on, I just stirred my cornflakes the wrong way "KILL, KILL, KILL" anyways, i'm off to murder my neighbour now....
4 years ago
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You reckon these attorney generals get Hate mail etc?
4 years ago
I doubt an email will help. How often did an email changed a person's mind anyway?

Probably had his secretary reading it and then throwing away anything that is related to this issue.

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Simple. R18+ games should be placed in a locked glass cabinet. ID must be provided at time of purchase and fines should apply to anyone selling/prodviding them to somone under 18.
But there are lazy parents out there that will just buy games that are 15+ for kids who are only around 10. Seen it all the time in eb. If they aren't lazy to supervise their kids when they suppose to, we would probably had 18+
4 years ago
So just because there are Lazy parents out there all the rest of the gaming community have to miss out????. I am sorry but that is a crazy excuse for us not to get a R+ system. I just don't see why we have to miss out because of a bunch of lazy parents. This is why i am hating Australia atm icon_sad.gif
4 years ago
Island_Wolf wrote
I doubt an email will help. How often did an email changed a person's mind anyway?

Probably had his secretary reading it and then throwing away anything that is related to this issue.

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Simple. R18+ games should be placed in a locked glass cabinet. ID must be provided at time of purchase and fines should apply to anyone selling/prodviding them to somone under 18.
But there are lazy parents out there that will just buy games that are 15+ for kids who are only around 10. Seen it all the time in eb. If they aren't lazy to supervise their kids when they suppose to, we would probably had 18+
ahh, i sent an email, one of his minions must have read it and now he wants to correspond with me personally, so don't dismiss it that quickly!!
I doubt i will change his mind, but at least i have broken the minion barrier, if anyone else breaks the minion barrier, let it be known.

I'd say that rod's email above will also break the minion barrier, if we can get enough people to write sane and composed emails (i guess mine isn't that composed, but it is sane) we may get somewhere.
4 years ago
You'd think they'd realise that the "most computer literate and savvy in our society" can just download these 'not banned, we don't ban games, but you can't sell it' games directly from the interwebs... or hypernets, or blogospheric highway, I forget what the monkeys are calling it now


Maybe one day government will learn that the only way to regulate something is to make it legal.
4 years ago
I just joined PALGN so that I could post my letter to Mr Atkinson regarding this. I'm hoping I get a reasonable response.

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Mr Atkinson,

You have been reported in the news to be against the introduction of an R18+ rating for video games in Australia. The exact quote given by your spokesperson was "He doubts whether any safeguards could be put in place to deter young people, who after all (are) the most computer literate and savvy in our society, from being able to access material."

As such, I would like to pose this hypothetical:

Suppose that there is a product which is most definitely not suitable for those under the age of 18. Suppose that this product, although banned to those under the age of 18, is often obtained by those same underage people, and used to the point that it is a major problem. Would you consider it appropriate to ban this product for all Australians, in order to keep the product out of the hands of those under the age of 18?



If your answer to the above hypothetical is "yes", I would ask you to immediately and publically express your position that alcohol should be banned throughout Australia. Alcohol fits the hypothetical perfectly.

If your answer to the above hypothetical is "no", then your position on R18+ video games is hypocritical, and you should either reconsider your view, or resign from your position, or simply abstain from voting for the introduction of R18+ games. Hypocrisy is not acceptable.


I look forward to either your public statement against alcohol, or your decision to allow R18+ games in Australia.

A citizen of Australia,

<name removed> of <location removed>, Brisbane.
EDIT: Just to be clear, I emailed it to him - by saying "so that I could post my letter", I didn't mean that I'm using this forum to communicate with him, but rather that I wanted to share it with people here.
4 years ago
welcome to palgn. And thank you for joining the fight against this travesty of democracy.
4 years ago
Dam, I new this was too good to be true. Time to fire up an email. I might email some of the morning shows as well, but I have a feeling that they would be sided with the government. Can't hurt though.
4 years ago
I wonder if the GDAA is going to do something serious this time around. There's been water cooler discussion in here about the situation at the very least. I'm of the opinion that every game developer in Australia making their position known would probably be more effective than a representational organisation making it's position known.
4 years ago
Okay, this is my effort.


Warning: long.



Dear Mr Atkinson,

I write to you today in regards to your decision made public on 28 February 2008 regarding your refusal of allowing an R18+ classification to be implemented for video games in Australia. I send this email in order to inform you why I believe your decision is incorrect and misinformed. It's clear that your main concern is violent video games getting into the hands of impressionable children. I agree with this utterly, content should be kept away from those for whom it is unsuitable. However, by barring the possibility of an R18+ rating you are inadvertently ensuring that it is easier for violent video games to get into the hands of children. This is the point I wish to stress in attempting to make you see that by refusing an R18+ classification you are not ensuring stricter ratings, but rather a more lax system which no doubt teenagers 15-17 will be thanking you for, and most likely younger. It's much easier for a thirteen year old to bluff their way into purchasing an MA15 game than it would be an R18+ game. Before I turned 18, I was myself opposed to an R18 rating, purely because I knew it would put many games out of my reach.

Let me use as an example Grand Theft Auto. Under New Zealand's rating system, Grand Theft Auto games have been classified as being suitable for over 18's only. In Australia, the Grand Theft Auto games are rated MA15. Obviously the consequence of this difference is that teenagers 15-17 are able to easily obtain Grand Theft Auto games in Australia, but not in New Zealand. In April, another Grand Theft Auto game is being released. By barring the R18+ rating, you are ensuring that Australian teenagers 15-17 are able to freely access this game, which I believe in an extended ratings system would be given an R18+ rating due to its strong content.

Secondly let me remark on what is now a commonly known statistic, that the average video game player in Australia is 28 years old. This is ten years in excess of an R18+ rating, and is surely an indication that video games aren't, as the misconception indulged by yourself, just for kids. Thus it seems suitable to me that given the age of video game players the ratings system would reflect as such.

I'm sure you're aware that Australia is the only democratic country to not have a fully fledged ratings system for video games. It seems very odd to me that in this, a democracy, the personal beliefs of one man, that being yourself, can overrule what is a vastly sensible and intelligent concept, and one in line with the rest of the modern world.

Please don't suffer from the delusion that by barring an R18+ rating, you're protecting young people from violent content in video games. I don't know how little or how much awareness you have of the video game industry, but if you were to examine the processes by which games are primarily obtained, you would observe that your blocked the R18+ rating is counter productive to both the democratic rights of Australians to make their own decisions and your own desires to protect young Australians.

Quoting your representative in the news.com.au article that appeared about the matter:


"He doubts whether any safeguards could be put in place to deter young people, who after all [are] the most computer literate and savvy in our society, from being able to access material."


This does not, certainly to me and many other people, sound like a legitimate reason to oppose the rating. It sounds to me a remark along the lines of 'young people could potentially access the material anyway, so let's not bother.' You doubt any safeguards could be put in place. That phrase to me doesn't do much to reflect your own certainty on the matter. In fact, I would go so far as to suggest that you yourself realise how flimsy your reasoning is. If you apply this belief to other things that require being 18 years or older to obtain; primarily alcohol, R18+ films and pornography, then you are by implication suggesting that the safeguards in place to protect these things from young people are not worthwhile. Surely, without doubt, a safeguard, no matter how ineffectual you may perceive it to be, is better than no safeguard at all.

It would be impossible for a safeguard such as an R18+ rating to be any less ineffectual than those in place for alcohol, pornography and R18+ films. Certainly an older sibling or relative could go and purchase an R18+ game for a child. The system is not foolproof, nor is it for alcohol, pornography and R18+ films.

But surely you must concede that an R18+ rating would go some way towards making it harder for those under 18 to access video games with excessively violent or sexual material. If protecting young people from unsuitable material is something that you genuinely desire to enforce, then endorsing an R18+ rating is the most effective way achieve this end.

Should you obstructively continue to deny Australian adults an adequate ratings system for video games, I have little doubt that the current system employed by gamers of importing banned games, which I might stress doesn't require age identification, will continue.

By barring an R18+ rating for video games, you are unreasonably preventing adults from making individual choices on what they wish to hear, see and interact with, you are allowing people 17 and under to access video games that are in other countries rated for adults, you are allowing Australia to be looked upon poorly by the rest of the modern world for a ratings system widely considered to be backwards and out of date. There is no benefit to be gained from opposing an R18+ rating, and therefore I ask you that you consider the matters set forth above, and reconsider your position on an R18+ rating for video games.

I look forward to your reply.
4 years ago
Marka wrote
He doubts whether any safeguards could be put in place to deter young people, who after all [are] the most computer literate and savvy in our society, from being able to access material."

Simple. R18+ games should be placed in a locked glass cabinet. ID must be provided at time of purchase and fines should apply to anyone selling/prodviding them to somone under 18.
Which is how most 18+ things are at the moment (or should be rather).

Game A gets banned.
Game A then gets patched.
Game A re released as MA15+.
Game A can now be bought by people under 18.

I don't see how this can be better then:

Game A gets Rated R18.
Game A only bought by people older than 18.

Somewhat annoying that politicians prefer the first case.

Whilst I'll also admit to watching a lot of R18 movies as a kid, they have in no way changed my perception on life nor made me an ultra violent killer (just ask anyone who knows me... oh wait, that maybe a bit difficult icon_razz.gif /joke).

More responsibility must be taken by parents / caregivers if they know their child is going to be a problem by being subjected to the material that is not appropriate for them, and I honestly think that by restricting a game to being sold only to adults is one way to help in this regard. After all, what much difference is there in a person's mind from a M15 rating to a MA15+?

Also, petty name calling doesn't help anyone's argument and don't say anything you wouldn't say to someone's face if you were given the opportunity, posts like those make me just as annoyed as ignorance that can be seen from the older generations.
4 years ago
keep those emails rolling everyone, he can't ignore us all!

nice one toastfarmer!

it does seem very, very sloppy for an elected representative and especially one who is the attorney general to dismiss this so readily, and so against what a democracy stands for, now all hail the hypno toad.
4 years ago
OK here's my effort, goes a bit long and is a little over the place. i resisted the need to yell as well. icon_smile.gif

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Hon. Michael Atkinson,

Dear Sir,

I noticed that you have decided against allowing an R18+ rating for video games. I write to you for two reasons: firstly, for an explanation why and secondly to inform you of why I believe this along with the majority of Australians.

I am not from South Australia, but am a very passionate gamer from Queensland. A recent survey by Queensland's Bond University showed that 88% of Australians supported the introduction of an R18+ rating for video games. (http://www.smh.com.au/news/technology/violence-and-sex-may-get-thumbs-up/2008/02/22/1203467345267.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1) To understand why the majority of my fellow Australians think this way, you need to understand, appreciate and respect video games as on par with music, books, TV and movies, all of which have far more leniency with regards to ratings. In the past, classic books such as Catcher in the Rye have been banned, yet the very same book is now taught in and praised by schools around the world. With video games becoming more and more realistic, it is only a matter of time before a truly classic game is banned from being enjoyed by the majority of gamers because a section of the Australian gaming community is less than 18 years of age.

Your spokesperson was quoted as saying, “He doubts whether any safeguards could be put in place to deter young people” as a reason why you believe that R18+ games should not be allowed. I agree with you that it is worrying that bad or misinformed parents will probably provide their children with R18+ games just as they do now with MA15+ games and R18+ movies; just as they do with cigarettes and alcohol. I find it hard to believe that this country allows adults the rights to buy and download pornographic materials, buy alcohol and cigarettes and visit brothels, yet bans the sale of a game about graffiti (Marc Ecko’s Getting Up: Contents Under Pressure) to those aged 18 and over. Why not ban all spray paints too?

At the moment, many games in Australia are rated less severely than those of our friends in the UK and New Zealand (both of which have an R18+ rating). This is just one drawback of the system. I believe that our MA15+ rating is too lenient and by not having an R18+ rating, too many games are being allowed into the hands of young gamers not mature enough to play the games. Another problem is that once a game has been refused rating by the OFLC, game publishers slightly water down the violence until the game is given an MA15+ release. Thus, instead of responsible mature gamers over the age of 18 enjoying the game, we have those aged under 18 enjoying the game as well. Therefor, by not allowing an 18+ rating, more problems are created than solved.
I also find it absurd that the great nation in which I live is the only developed first world democracy not to have an R18+ rating in place. I believe if you listened to some more feedback and had an open discussion and debate with people from both viewpoints, you could see that the introduction of an R18+ rating would bring the country into line with the rest of the world. Your job is to make choices which are right for the country and I believe that you are failing the country right now as your personal opinion has taken precedence over the opinion of 88% of Australians.

As a university student studying to enter the games industry, I find it very worrying that the government is promoting Brisbane and Melbourne as future gaming hubs of the world, yet fails to acknowledge that gamers over the age of 18 play and enjoy games. The average age of a gamer has been found to be from mid twenties to mid thirties and will only get higher and higher as those who played games as a child continue to grow. These people will be the ones working in the games industry in years to come. Wouldn’t it be ironic if their very own government banned one of their games because the minority of gamers could illegally obtain access to it?

I await a response from you and look forward to hearing why you believe that games can not be monitored in a similar fashion to that of music, movies, brothels, alcohol and cigarettes. I look forward to hearing your opinion as to why as an 18 year old tax-paying Australian citizen, I canot legally play a game that my friends in England, Scotland, Wales, South Korea, Canada, United States, New Zealand, Brazil, Germany, Japan, Finland and Sweden can. I look forward to hearing why you believe that retailers in the countries listed above have success in monitoring the sale of R18+ games (just as our country does with R18+ movies), yet Australian retailers would fail in doing so.
4 years ago
Island_Wolf wrote
But there are lazy parents out there that will just buy games that are 15+ for kids who are only around 10. Seen it all the time in eb. If they aren't lazy to supervise their kids when they suppose to, we would probably had 18+
That however is lawful, children under 15 are to be denied sale only if they are not accompanied by a parent or guardian, it is the same for film so the issue isn't that these kids are getting lawful material but that certain material wouldn't be classified for lawful sale to them at all with the introduction of the higher restriction, hence even eliminating the "lazy parent" point.
4 years ago
Ok people i also got a email asking for my address icon_smile.gif. Lets hope he listens icon_sad.gif.
4 years ago
+1 for long winded email, lol. Its a bit all over the place and i sort of got into a bit of a rant towards the end. But yeah i also got a request for my postal address so he can correspond with me. icon_confused.gif Why exactly do they need my postal address?

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Dear Hon. Michael Atkinson,

I am writing to you to express my disappointment in your refusal to help introduce a R rating for computer games in Australia. I somewhat understand your concern with the threat of minors being able to purchase such material, hense why i believe games of such rating need to be strictly monitored with heavy fines in place if sold to minors. To further discourage minors from being able to purchase r18+ rated games, retailers should also have to display these games in locked glass cabinents, many already provide these for the more expensive items so this should not be a problem.

I am not only disappointed, but rather confused as to how you can justify not allowing a R18+ game. Yes, you're concerned for underage people being able to purchase said games, or perhaps play them if a older family member purchased them, but how is that any different from being able to purchase or watch R18+ movies? Are games considered more damaging than graphically violent R18+ movies? If that is the case I would like to see any studies providing any evidence of this, I fail to see how two very similar media can be treated so differently.

I believe there are many people who are still in the mindframe that games are for children, im not sure if you're aware but the average age of Australian Gamers is 28 years old, by 2014 the average age of gamers will be the same age as non-gamers: 42 years old. This study was done by Bond University in 2007 (http://epublications.bond.edu.au/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1098&context=hss_pubs), this alone should be enough to justify why Australia needs an R18+ classification. When the average age of gamers is 28 years old in australia and only getting older, how could you deny us a R18+ rating?

The Australian game market is a huge industry for Australia, in 2006 hardware and software sales totalled $925 million, nearly 12.5 million games were purchased in 2006, and Australia's 40 development studio's have produced more than 200 games earning $100 million in export sales each year. This is only growing, the video game industry worldwide as a whole is worth 10 billion dollars and generates more revenue than Hollywood, it really is a industry you should take more seriously.

I think the Government as a whole is very ignorant to how important the growth of games could be, it is regarded by many to be the media of the future. Disallowing things such as the R18+ classification and the 40% rebate (http://au.wii.ign.com/articles/824/824603p1.html) that is provided for the film industry (despite the game industry actually generating more money than the local film industry in the first place) only shows the rest of the world, who are embracing the game industry, how far Australia is behind the world.

I urge you to reconsider your decision, i feel very passionately about the subject and as a recent graduate seeking employment in the game industry, i am constantly being disappointed by the Governments lack of support. I understand you're a busy person so id just like to thank you for your time, and once again i hope you can start to realise how important the game industry can be for Australia.
4 years ago
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The Honourable Mr Atkinson,

The media has painted a bleak future for not only the consumers in regards to the past time that is video gaming but to the industry as a whole in regards to the release by a spokesperson from your office ( "He doubts whether any safeguards could be put in place to deter young people, who after all [are] the most computer literate and savvy in our society, from being able to access material."), while it is refreshing to see a politician whose ideals are willing to be fought for, one must consider the greater impact on industry and community with decisions, the exert in question relayed to myself the notion that there were little facts behind the decision and the opposition is simply to appease a certain demographic. I hope that this is indeed not the case.

The IEAA reported in 2007 that the average age of gamers had reached 28 years, up from 24 years in 2005, that current classification levels are akin to an average age of 16 years shows an inability to move with the times. Yes children can and probably will be exposed to the content if the classification was brought into line with films and television, however would it not be wiser to regulate their exposure where applicable instead of the current situation of disorganised chaos?

The reasons for introducing the R rated classification to video gaming are numerous, however I believe there are 5 key reasons;

Clarification to the general public;
Classification (G through X) have been associated with movies to the point where society is comfortable with the classification, knowing which to send children to and which may be harmful, this leads to less confusion on what is appropriate viewing for children & youths, a problem that is plaguing the video game industry due to the sheer amount of titles in the MA15+ range which shouldn't be there to begin with.

Respect to the industry;
The Australian Game Industry do not receive the same 40% rebate that Films and Television get from the government, yet at the same time they are larger than the film industry in development and monetary intake, yet instead of embracing the industry various sledges are levelled their way in regards to violence impacting children due to interactivity (thus being the sole cause for social upheaval and violent behaviour, which was a point of candidates in the recent federal election "Sen Philip Cutler of the Calwell Electorate, VIC") or pornographic material being so severe and so distasteful that we are turning our youth into paedophiles and perverts. The industry could be a benefit for all Australians if the government showed it a little respect as a industry.

The afore mentioned clarification;
In order to protect children from content that they should not do is by regulating it, denying regulation, in this sense classification is self defeating for your very cause. Introducing the R classification would eliminate the grey area of sales to minors, where games that should have been R rated are then watered down to MA15+ level would not reach the hands of children if they were not watered down to begin with. As it stands now the grey remains, and the children who may be computer savvy to the point that your spokesperson claimed have a license to ascertain copies without regulation or parental control. Clarifying the classification for games to bring them into line with film would eliminate this grey area.

Modernisation;
Technology movies with leaps and bounds, laws which seemed fine years ago may longer hold sway over current technology, what before may have taken up entire walls can now fit in the palm of peoples hands and you cannot have a law which can govern both unless it were to take electronic devices to the sword. In such times, sometimes the law needs to play catch up to technology so that we can properly understand, observe and deal with the problems that arise.

Creative freedom;
Australia have a host of talent in the gaming industry, this talent instead of staying put leave to other continents who have such ratings, such rebates, such freedom to express themselves in their given medium. What Australia has now, in terms of the GDAA is a censored restrictive industry because the government treats it as the crux of humanity, a blight on the sanity of people everywhere. Unshackle the iron chains you yourself place on this industry and the professionals who work in it to create.

As a gamer, 23 years of age it is disappointing to see the industry struggle, it is terrifying to see government individuals claim that I should be content being treated as a 16 year old, and the longevity of generalisations towards gamers is worrying and frightening, out of millions (and even billions) of people who game why must we as a group be shunned because of an extremely small fraction of individuals? Why should they be able to shape what happens to the industry with their stupidity when common sense should prevail?

Should I, as a law abiding adult in all forms of the word be content with being told my entertainment rights are that of a child?

I should not. I ask, no I beg that you reconsider your stance not for myself, but for yourself to release the personal bias, release the expectation to appease individual groups and decide on merits, decide on fact and decide on the future, because you owe it to the citizens of Australia to do so.
For reference, Philip Cutler ran as an independent in the electorate of Calwell in the federal election. In his campaign letter he stated that the chief cause of violence among young people were video games. As soon as I received his letter I emailed his office to no reply.

Out of 95,622 votes he received 624, a prompt stfu.

Also for some reason, I'm not that surprised that I wrote a "scolding" email on my 23d birthday... perhaps it's a sign I'm here to yell at people. icon_biggrin.gif
4 years ago
Fetidchimp wrote
if anyone else gets a reply from his office, let me know, we need to coordinate any verbal fisticuffs that he may want to engage in.
A workmate of mine (from our Adelaide office) got a reply. Same sort though, they want his postal address. I'm assuming he used his work email address too.

I'm going to go with "it's going to require more than some emails to get our point across" now.
4 years ago
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Hon. Michael Atkinson
Member for Croydon

Attorney-General
Minister for Justice
Minister for Multicultural Affairs

Office:
488 Port Rd, Welland SA 5077
Tel: 8346 2462
Email: croydon@parliament.sa.gov.au

contact, email, snailmail get our voice heard!!
we will have R18 ratings in Australia!!
icon_lol.gif I live just around the corner from his office. Maybe I can go and protest out the front with some sort of witty and amusing sign. We're here we're queer, we want 'R' Rated games. or something like that. icon_cool.gif
4 years ago
How about we use YouTube as well? I'm looking at coming up with a little video myself. Maybe this would broaden exposure to this issue?
4 years ago
Here is one to start you off - a little cheesy perhaps, but also somewhat poignant.
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